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10/31/2024 4:55:47 PM EDT
Always buy extra mags when I can make a deal while checking pawn shops, so picked 4 up for cheap and when I was got back to the truck I noticed the followers are semi bright metal and not black plastic. From what I can find the early 20rd mags with the 223 baseplates had these but the base plates on these are 223 and 5.56. Anyone knowledgeable on these?





10/31/2024 5:22:06 PM EDT
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https://magfaq.tripod.com/mags1.htm

https://www.ar15.com/content/page.html?id=331
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10/31/2024 5:49:27 PM EDT
[#2]
I have an older one like that says .223 and has the Alm follower think someone told me early 70s.

All I know is it works well.
10/31/2024 5:59:51 PM EDT
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Thanks!
10/31/2024 6:16:27 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By ar15robert:
I have an older one like that says .223 and has the Alm follower think someone told me early 70s.

All I know is it works well.
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My fil had been saying for several years that the 20rd are more reliable than the 30rd mags
11/1/2024 7:39:37 AM EDT
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11/1/2024 7:41:32 AM EDT
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The ones marked .223 are older and much more desirable by collectors. I do not know dates specific but there is information out there and you did good for sure. Guys in the retro section have loads of great information.
11/1/2024 9:15:51 AM EDT
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Good haul, got a bunch of this era my go-to mags
Carry it, shoot it. (repeat forever)

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11/11/2024 5:38:24 AM EDT
[#8]
USGI VietNam era vintage.
De Oppresso Liber
Iraq: 91,03,04,05,06,08,09,15,16,22,23,24'
Afghanistan: 09,10,11',14',17',18',19',20'&21'
11/11/2024 7:35:06 AM EDT
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If you are bench shooting they are MUCH nicer then 30 rounders.

I use them more then 30's honestly plus I have some that I just keep my .22 M261 mags in on a permanent basis. I still have a couple unopened old  7 mag boxes of Colt mags stashed away.
Liberals are a curious mix of communism and fascism, they want to destroy you but want to use your own money to do it.

I'm getting down to the last box, the others have all been destroyed...
11/11/2024 8:27:20 AM EDT
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Advantages of 20s, lower profile for bench, prone and hunting.  Holds one box of ammo.  Doesn't snag getting thru swamps/vines, out of vehicles.  Fits into cases ie M1950 Airborne weapons case.  I still carried them in the gun for those reasons for decades in Iraq and Afghanistan.  All reloads are 30 rd mags however.

OP, same mag as you have still doing service.
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De Oppresso Liber
Iraq: 91,03,04,05,06,08,09,15,16,22,23,24'
Afghanistan: 09,10,11',14',17',18',19',20'&21'
12/15/2024 8:29:23 PM EDT
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https://www.ar15.com/forums/AR-15/Development-of-the-AR-15-Magazine-and-Photo-Resource-Thread/123-784346/

Those are four beautiful nearly new condition mags OP!

The .223 floorplates are the earliest. The font they used changed over the years, I would estimate (personal guess here) those two mags were from 1966ish. Before that the 3 had a straight top on Colt floorplates; and floorplate color darkened in time so I would put those at 65/66.

Colt changed to marking magazines and lower receivers as 5.56 instead of .223 in 1969.

The 5.56 floorplate that has COLT AR-15 marking is the earliest of the 5.56 mags.

I think.
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12/16/2024 6:55:36 AM EDT
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Last week here in Baghdad
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De Oppresso Liber
Iraq: 91,03,04,05,06,08,09,15,16,22,23,24'
Afghanistan: 09,10,11',14',17',18',19',20'&21'
12/16/2024 11:19:00 AM EDT
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united industries was a subsidiary of OK industries , OK Industries made most of the mags back then and put who evers floorplate on them that ordered the run , they made all of Colts i believe , the one with the "U" cradling the "I " is the United Industries logo , they would also produce for Colt under the OK umbrella when OK had a large order , perfectly normal to see that logo on a Colt mag , interestingly if you turn the logo sideways its a C and an H for Colt Hartford , probably a fluke occurrence

nice pull
12/16/2024 3:04:40 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Migmaqman:
united industries was a subsidiary of OK industries , OK Industries made most of the mags back then and put who evers floorplate on them that ordered the run , they made all of Colts i believe , the one with the "U" cradling the "I " is the United Industries logo , they would also produce for Colt under the OK umbrella when OK had a large order , perfectly normal to see that logo on a Colt mag , interestingly if you turn the logo sideways its a C and an H for Colt Hartford , probably a fluke occurrence

nice pull
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Universal Ind. was the first and developed a lot of the processes needed to successfully manufacture the magazine. Colt moved after period of years to purchasing from Adventure line manufacturing. Supposedly they were unhappy with the quality of some batches and moved to OKAY, that's owner had previously worked at Universal, to make their magazines.

There is a court case online that goes over the history of the magazine fairly well.
1/1/2025 1:23:37 PM EDT
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Primarily all I use they just work.
1/1/2025 3:24:40 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Migmaqman:
united industries was a subsidiary of OK industries , OK Industries made most of the mags back then and put who evers floorplate on them that ordered the run , they made all of Colts i believe , the one with the "U" cradling the "I " is the United Industries logo , they would also produce for Colt under the OK umbrella when OK had a large order , perfectly normal to see that logo on a Colt mag , interestingly if you turn the logo sideways its a C and an H for Colt Hartford , probably a fluke occurrence

nice pull
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Universal Industries.
2/6/2025 2:56:11 AM EDT
[#17]
60s to 70s mags
2/12/2025 11:26:20 PM EDT
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Sad part is I have read on here of people replacing the AL follower with the anti tilt ones.

Which is so full of wrong
2/13/2025 4:19:45 AM EDT
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I milled some A2 Grips into the Survival Rifle size. And these mags make a nice tight Shorty Carbine..
Really nice with a flat top and Magpul flip up sights.
2/14/2025 10:13:37 AM EDT
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Sad part is I have read on here of people replacing the AL follower with the anti tilt ones.

Which is so full of wrong
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I made the mistake of trying this, turned a 100% reliable OEM magazine into an occasionally reliable magazine.

The internal dimensions on these original 20 rounders are different than Magpul's follower design, which works great on modern magazines.
2/14/2025 10:36:51 AM EDT
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Those old 20 rounders are my favorite mags. They have never failed me. I wish the same can be said for the aluminum 30 rounders. The 30 rds are hit and miss sometimes.  
2/14/2025 10:57:52 AM EDT
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Those old 20 rounders are my favorite mags. They have never failed me. I wish the same can be said for the aluminum 30 rounders. The 30 rds are hit and miss sometimes.  
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I have a couple of 7 mag boxes from 1967 floating around but I still have scads of perfectly working 20 rounders so I've never had to open them. I have a couple that were ''OK'' reliability wise and those got turned into M261 insert hosts.
Liberals are a curious mix of communism and fascism, they want to destroy you but want to use your own money to do it.

I'm getting down to the last box, the others have all been destroyed...
2/14/2025 11:13:30 AM EDT
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I also have an unopened box of seven mags but they are far back in the safe and I don't remember any of the writing on the box, they are in a foil, Kraft paper pouch late 60's early 70's.
4/26/2025 6:32:15 PM EDT
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Nice score OP.

I have a 1970-dated box of 7 new Adventurline 20 rounders on the shelf. Same metal followers.
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