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ULTRA light weight picture thread....the under 6 crowd. (Page 1 of 39)
Posted: 10/11/2013 8:18:43 PM EDT
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I've seen several other light weight picture threads that included 8 pounders. Lets look at some real challenging builds. Rules are...gotta have a pic, gotta have the weight of the empty rifle. The rifle must weigh six pounds or less. I'll go first.
Attached File Permanently attached phantom flash hider on a spikes 14 1/2" light weight mid length barrel DPMS carbon fiber free float hand guard...cut to mid length from a rifle length tube JP front sight rail Lo-pro .625 gas block Magpul MBUS sights Standard aluminum upper with an adco forward assist plug Standard bolt and buffer New Frontier Lower Magpul MOE grip CAR butt stock 500 rounds so far...no malfunctions. Empty weight: 5 pounds |
| Switching to an upper without provision for a forward assist would save about 1.5 ounces. |
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...and just in case you were thinking you needed polymer/carbon fiber to make the cut...
Attached File ...a stock colt 6520...5 pounds 12 ounces. |
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Originally Posted By Whitebrad25:
Can't see your butt stock and also your bottom cap on your grip is out...lol. A lot of people blow some of the weight category up to be more than it is...Won't hate though, to each their own. The bottom cap weighed too much :-) ....thanks for the hold on the hate...just an intellectual exercise, mostly, but ounces = pounds. Pounds = pain. |
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Originally Posted By L119188:
The bottom cap weighed too much :-) ....thanks for the hold on the hate...just an intellectual exercise, mostly, but ounces = pounds. Pounds = pain. Originally Posted By L119188:
Originally Posted By Whitebrad25:
Can't see your butt stock and also your bottom cap on your grip is out...lol. A lot of people blow some of the weight category up to be more than it is...Won't hate though, to each their own. The bottom cap weighed too much :-) ....thanks for the hold on the hate...just an intellectual exercise, mostly, but ounces = pounds. Pounds = pain. For almost all, the pounds=pain argument is null due to the fact that there are so, so very little, situations where you haul the weight constantly...even still, for those applications, a sling would likely be used and aid in carrying the weight....but I'd be surprised to see someone post the weight and include the sling, an accessory that would be useful for this mentality of pounds=pain. Just sayin'. I do like lightweight builds though....I just get there with an SBR. |
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Originally Posted By L119188:
The bottom cap weighed too much :-) ....thanks for the hold on the hate...just an intellectual exercise, mostly, but ounces = pounds. Pounds = pain. Originally Posted By L119188:
Originally Posted By Whitebrad25:
Can't see your butt stock and also your bottom cap on your grip is out...lol. A lot of people blow some of the weight category up to be more than it is...Won't hate though, to each their own. The bottom cap weighed too much :-) ....thanks for the hold on the hate...just an intellectual exercise, mostly, but ounces = pounds. Pounds = pain. Now put the bolt carrier group back in and weigh it .... 
My homeland defense carbine has got to have a flashlight and an Aimpoint micro on it so I guess I can't compete... will have to see how much my 14.7 super light Bushy weighs when the BCM KM13's come out |
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Not bad for a 16" middy barrel and 13.5" handguard with standard bcg components and h buffer. I can't wait to put something together with a lightweight 11.5 barrel, bcm hg, and upper without fa. FU brd 
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Originally Posted By ZekeMenuar:
FWIW I count the weight of the rifle and a full 30 rnd magazine. This is 6.5 pounds with a full mag. Probably under six pounds without the magazine. It's carbon fiber and tupperware with a CMMG Govt profile barrel. http://i33.tinypic.com/30ufr88.jpg If you use a 604 upper on that you'd save a half pound. |
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Originally Posted By Combat_Jack:
If you use a 604 upper on that you'd save a half pound. Originally Posted By Combat_Jack:
Originally Posted By ZekeMenuar:
FWIW I count the weight of the rifle and a full 30 rnd magazine. This is 6.5 pounds with a full mag. Probably under six pounds without the magazine. It's carbon fiber and tupperware with a CMMG Govt profile barrel. http://i33.tinypic.com/30ufr88.jpg If you use a 604 upper on that you'd save a half pound. That gun wasn't intentionally built as a LW. It just turned out that way. Excuse my ignorance, what's a 604 upper? You mean a slickside. My carbine has a slickside upper receiver. It's nowhere near six pounds though. I really don't care for the govt profile. I should have put a medium contour barrel on it when I built it. At some point I'm going to chuck that barrel and get something better. |
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The weight difference between A1 and A2 is 4 ounces. You could turn most of that off.
604 is a slick side A1 upper. |
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Originally Posted By 9divdoc:
Now put the bolt carrier group back in and weigh it ....
Oh....that goes inside the rifle? :-) My homeland defense carbine has got to have a flashlight and an Aimpoint micro on it so I guess I can't compete... will have to see how much my 14.7 super light Bushy weighs when the BCM KM13's come out Originally Posted By 9divdoc:
Originally Posted By L119188:
Originally Posted By Whitebrad25:
Can't see your butt stock and also your bottom cap on your grip is out...lol. A lot of people blow some of the weight category up to be more than it is...Won't hate though, to each their own. The bottom cap weighed too much :-) ....thanks for the hold on the hate...just an intellectual exercise, mostly, but ounces = pounds. Pounds = pain. Now put the bolt carrier group back in and weigh it ....
Oh....that goes inside the rifle? :-) My homeland defense carbine has got to have a flashlight and an Aimpoint micro on it so I guess I can't compete... will have to see how much my 14.7 super light Bushy weighs when the BCM KM13's come out You can totally compete. The Aimpoint only weighs 4 ounces, a Surefire G2 Nitrolon weighs another 4 ounces. The MBUS weigh about 2 oz I think, and you could remove them if need be. The Aimpoint is pretty reliable. Easy money |
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I think weight should be with no mag as this is a variable weight item. I run a 10, the next guy a 30... you get the idea. Also the rifle has to be complete and ready to fire for the weight to mean something. Gotta have a BCG, Charging Handle, Sights...
EDIT- Sights or optic. Gotta use something to aim. /just my thoughts |
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is that the point and shoot model or the shoot from hip model, because the lack of sights defines it as such,
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Originally Posted By xachary82:
is that the point and shoot model or the shoot from hip model, because the lack of sights defines it as such, Originally Posted By xachary82:
is that the point and shoot model or the shoot from hip model, because the lack of sights defines it as such, At the time the photo was taken, I hadn't received my Aimpoint T-1 yet. |
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What length barrel? |
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Originally Posted By Fishbone928:
What length barrel? Originally Posted By Fishbone928:
What length barrel? That was an early build photo, that had a Colt 16" lightweight barrel. That was before I purchased several Colt 14.5" lightweight barrels off of the EE. Originally Posted By eodinert:
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Mr. Ashton might have something to say about that. Agreed, before this thread ends, Josh WILL own it. No offense, just fact. |
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Originally Posted By JoshAston:
http://i733.photobucket.com/albums/ww337/joshua_aston/null_zps9993d66b.jpg Damn! How'd you do that? |
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Originally Posted By JoshAston:
 
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Originally Posted By eodinert:
He's safe for now. I'm 6 months in Afghanistan away from conquering this thread.
   
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This was either 5 pound, 5 oz or 5 pounds 8 oz... i forget now. 5lb 4 ozs it weighs It feels ridiculous to handle. I will get a pic of it on the scale when I get the rifle back from my brother. I used a 14.5 DD pencil barrel MagTactical magnesium lower 9mm upper Colt half moon carrier Fiberlite stock Troy 9' alpha and irons std weight car buffer BCM low pro block Extended A2 hider |
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I don't have a postal scale, just a bathroom scale, so my weights aren't as precise. But the old car is 6# or just under and if the bumblebee M4gery 6# or just over. My 604 and 603 clones are closer the 6.5 so they're not included.
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I assume you have your aluminum carrier in that one. How much would it weigh with the JP carrier? |
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Originally Posted By Bretshooter:
I assume you have your aluminum carrier in that one. How much would it weigh with the JP carrier? Originally Posted By Bretshooter:
I assume you have your aluminum carrier in that one. How much would it weigh with the JP carrier? You assume correct. Around 2.4 ounces more. |
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Originally Posted By L119188:
Damn! How'd you do that? Originally Posted By L119188:
Originally Posted By JoshAston:
http://i733.photobucket.com/albums/ww337/joshua_aston/null_zps9993d66b.jpg Damn! How'd you do that? Titanium BCG, chopped Cav lower, Leupold DeltaPoint, 9mm upper, carbon fiber hand guard, adjustable gas tube, etc. I've got an aluminum carrier and poly fire control group I could throw in there, but I'm saving them for a Mag Tactical build. |
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Originally Posted By GreenPlease:
WOW that's light!  Keep this in mind, when Mag Tactical releases their new upper receiver and if Josh would install his aluminum carrier he will be BELOW THREE POUNDS!!! |
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I thought I would win this one - but man... 3 lb, 14 oz --- I can't beat that - not with "store bought" parts at this time. but - with all store bought parts, put together on my coffee table it's pretty good....It's a good shot too. probably about 2 MOA - nothing great, but nothing bad either... 4.2 lb - WITH OPTIC Ultralight AR15 - 2 pictures 2nd picture is with the AAC m4-2000 suppressor on it....that obviously pushes the weight up! |
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Originally Posted By PursuitSS:
Keep this in mind, when Mag Tactical releases their new upper receiver and if Josh would install his aluminum carrier he will be BELOW THREE POUNDS!!! Originally Posted By PursuitSS:
Originally Posted By GreenPlease:
WOW that's light! Keep this in mind, when Mag Tactical releases their new upper receiver and if Josh would install his aluminum carrier he will be BELOW THREE POUNDS!!! That'd be some serious ultralight awesomeness. Thanks for your service...and I look forward to getting schooled when you return. :-) |
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Originally Posted By JoshAston:
Titanium BCG, chopped Cav lower, Leupold DeltaPoint, 9mm upper, carbon fiber hand guard, adjustable gas tube, etc. I've got an aluminum carrier and poly fire control group I could throw in there, but I'm saving them for a Mag Tactical build. Originally Posted By JoshAston:
Originally Posted By L119188:
Originally Posted By JoshAston:
http://i733.photobucket.com/albums/ww337/joshua_aston/null_zps9993d66b.jpg Damn! How'd you do that? Titanium BCG, chopped Cav lower, Leupold DeltaPoint, 9mm upper, carbon fiber hand guard, adjustable gas tube, etc. I've got an aluminum carrier and poly fire control group I could throw in there, but I'm saving them for a Mag Tactical build. What length and profile barrel? I having hard time seeing how you could get that low without doing an SBR. |
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Originally Posted By chewbacca:
What length and profile barrel? I having hard time seeing how you could get that low without doing an SBR. Originally Posted By chewbacca:
Originally Posted By JoshAston:
Originally Posted By L119188:
Originally Posted By JoshAston:
http://i733.photobucket.com/albums/ww337/joshua_aston/null_zps9993d66b.jpg Damn! How'd you do that? Titanium BCG, chopped Cav lower, Leupold DeltaPoint, 9mm upper, carbon fiber hand guard, adjustable gas tube, etc. I've got an aluminum carrier and poly fire control group I could throw in there, but I'm saving them for a Mag Tactical build. What length and profile barrel? I having hard time seeing how you could get that low without doing an SBR. 11.5", it's .570 behind and in front of the gas block, .625 gas block journal. |
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Originally Posted By L119188:
Got some ranier arms goodness today... <a href="http://s553.photobucket.com/user/rsmcginnes/media/photo-6.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i553.photobucket.com/albums/jj397/rsmcginnes/photo-6.jpg</a> Now all I have to do is figure out how to unglue that hand guard. :-/ Nice. I love the look of an upper without a FA. Unfortunately I don't have any rifles that will make the cut. My sport was like 6lbs 12oz, and my spikes pencil barrel middy is 7lbs even. |
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Originally Posted By alacop:
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Originally Posted By tct1000:
Cool thread OP, I wonder how long until pics of 6.5lbs then 7lbs and finally +8lbs rifles show up and this turns into a full blown post whatever ar you want thread.... Yeah there should be some limits on these things -like barrels must be 14.5 or 14.7 -no plastic lowers -pics must be on scale with wt showing -no helium balloons tied to upper when on the scale -no optics -BCG CH must be in upper Stuff like that |
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