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Originally Posted By HelpfulGuerilla: If this is the one that I sent back to you, it has the new spring. What brand and weight of buffer are you using? Originally Posted By HelpfulGuerilla: Originally Posted By leemozoid: I needed some FRT therapy due to stresses incurred because of an upcoming ARFCOM curse (divorce). I was using my green Disruptor and a Colt 6921 upper with a YHM 5.56 Phantom (steel) suppressor. I was getting a lot of soft primer strikes and failures to do more than 3-5 rounds in the 3rd position. All are NATO USGI or IMO loads. None are reloads. Do I need the new hammer spring? If this is the one that I sent back to you, it has the new spring. What brand and weight of buffer are you using? Tromix H3. |
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Originally Posted By networkguru: So how has the LAT reliability been since launch? I'm at 1,400+ rounds, zero manfunctions. About 400 of those were in semi auto, 1000+ were fast semi. During the most recent inspection there is zero visible wear other than the sear polishing in and the semi auto pull getting silky smooth. |
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Well I'm going to have to tear one of my disruptors completely down for a cleaning I think! I've put 2-3,000 rounds of 9mm through it and I'm getting FRT on semi & FRT positions. I'm assuming something is dirty even after a basic cleaning, and a function check doesn't show any problems, only live fire. |
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Originally Posted By blwngazkit: Well I'm going to have to tear one of my disruptors completely down for a cleaning I think! I've put 2-3,000 rounds of 9mm through it and I'm getting FRT on semi & FRT positions. I'm assuming something is dirty even after a basic cleaning, and a function check doesn't show any problems, only live fire. When did you get yours? I got mine in May and it started doing that after a very few rounds. Apparently the safety lever was redesigned with a deeper cut. I had to get a new one for the Disruptor and for the Rare Breed. |
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Originally Posted By mini14jac: When did you get yours? I got mine in May and it started doing that after a very few rounds. Apparently the safety lever was redesigned with a deeper cut. I had to get a new one for the Disruptor and for the Rare Breed. It's one of the early batch ones with the crappy/no-detent positions on the safety. I emailed a long time ago about the safety detents but never got a response and things were busy so I've just been running it. I'm not actually sure when it started running FRT in semi; it spends most of it's time in position 3. The malfunction could have begun many rounds ago without being noticed easily. |
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Originally Posted By blwngazkit: It's one of the early batch ones with the crappy/no-detent positions on the safety. I emailed a long time ago about the safety detents but never got a response and things were busy so I've just been running it. I'm not actually sure when it started running FRT in semi; it spends most of it's time in position 3. The malfunction could have begun many rounds ago without being noticed easily. Please get with @helpfulguerilla with your address and details. Your trigger needs replacing, that shouldn't be happening, dirty or not. |
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Originally Posted By HK94dude: @HelpfulGuerilla When should we expect The Wrangler? The Wrangeler will hit our webstore in October and to select dealers in phases as production numbers increase. We have confirmed compatibility with a large number of AK variants across a wide spectrum of models and manufacturers. Testing in additional models of AK will be an ongoing process, and results will be listed on our website. The Wrangeler is far different from existing AK triggers-It is a drop in 3 position cassette. Additional Wrangeler details will be released over the coming weeks so please subscribe to our social media and our newsletter. |
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Originally Posted By Ben: Please get with @helpfulguerilla with your address and details. Your trigger needs replacing, that shouldn't be happening, dirty or not. Originally Posted By Ben: Originally Posted By blwngazkit: It's one of the early batch ones with the crappy/no-detent positions on the safety. I emailed a long time ago about the safety detents but never got a response and things were busy so I've just been running it. I'm not actually sure when it started running FRT in semi; it spends most of it's time in position 3. The malfunction could have begun many rounds ago without being noticed easily. Please get with @helpfulguerilla with your address and details. Your trigger needs replacing, that shouldn't be happening, dirty or not. Thanks for standing behind it you guys! I'll get comms going, but really it's been a low priority for me so don't think it's anything Partisan/Triggered has done wrong from a CS standpoint. |
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Originally Posted By HelpfulGuerilla: The Wrangeler will hit our webstore in October and to select dealers in phases as production numbers increase. We have confirmed compatibility with a large number of AK variants across a wide spectrum of models and manufacturers. Testing in additional models of AK will be an ongoing process, and results will be listed on our website. The Wrangeler is far different from existing AK triggers-It is a drop in 3 position cassette. Additional Wrangeler details will be released over the coming weeks so please subscribe to our social media and our newsletter. If you can share, has any testing for the Wrangler been done using a Galil ARM, SAR etc.? I've been looking into buying the pieces for an AK super safety and modifying it to work with my Galil. I'd like to put the 50 rounder I bought from a member to use. |
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Originally Posted By HelpfulGuerilla: The Wrangeler will hit our webstore in October and to select dealers in phases as production numbers increase. We have confirmed compatibility with a large number of AK variants across a wide spectrum of models and manufacturers. Testing in additional models of AK will be an ongoing process, and results will be listed on our website. The Wrangeler is far different from existing AK triggers-It is a drop in 3 position cassette. Additional Wrangeler details will be released over the coming weeks so please subscribe to our social media and our newsletter. Originally Posted By HelpfulGuerilla: Originally Posted By HK94dude: @HelpfulGuerilla When should we expect The Wrangler? The Wrangeler will hit our webstore in October and to select dealers in phases as production numbers increase. We have confirmed compatibility with a large number of AK variants across a wide spectrum of models and manufacturers. Testing in additional models of AK will be an ongoing process, and results will be listed on our website. The Wrangeler is far different from existing AK triggers-It is a drop in 3 position cassette. Additional Wrangeler details will be released over the coming weeks so please subscribe to our social media and our newsletter. Now I can start burning through my 5.45 ammo fort. |
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Originally Posted By TZLVredmist: Wonder if the Wrangler will work with S12? This one needs to fire even more fastererrreerr. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/47383/326684_269544306399739_24251529_o-3142453.jpg *Wrangeler |
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Originally Posted By Ben: *Wrangeler Originally Posted By Ben: Originally Posted By TZLVredmist: Wonder if the Wrangler will work with S12? This one needs to fire even more fastererrreerr. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/47383/326684_269544306399739_24251529_o-3142453.jpg *Wrangeler So that wasn’t a typo? |
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Originally Posted By FlatlandBusa: Not a typo https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/457325/2026-08-3022_05_375477239576125811915-3819885.jpg Originally Posted By FlatlandBusa: Originally Posted By ELittlefield: So that wasn’t a typo? Not a typo https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/457325/2026-08-3022_05_375477239576125811915-3819885.jpg Gotcha. Nice. I missed the reference. |
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Originally Posted By Virine: If you can share, has any testing for the Wrangler been done using a Galil ARM, SAR etc.? I've been looking into buying the pieces for an AK super safety and modifying it to work with my Galil. I'd like to put the 50 rounder I bought from a member to use. Originally Posted By Virine: Originally Posted By HelpfulGuerilla: The Wrangeler will hit our webstore in October and to select dealers in phases as production numbers increase. We have confirmed compatibility with a large number of AK variants across a wide spectrum of models and manufacturers. Testing in additional models of AK will be an ongoing process, and results will be listed on our website. The Wrangeler is far different from existing AK triggers-It is a drop in 3 position cassette. Additional Wrangeler details will be released over the coming weeks so please subscribe to our social media and our newsletter. If you can share, has any testing for the Wrangler been done using a Galil ARM, SAR etc.? I've been looking into buying the pieces for an AK super safety and modifying it to work with my Galil. I'd like to put the 50 rounder I bought from a member to use. Second the question. While the usual suspects (AKM, RPK, -74 variants) are of great interest to me, my R5 clone would be … intrigued. |
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Originally Posted By HelpfulGuerilla: The Wrangeler will hit our webstore in October and to select dealers in phases as production numbers increase. We have confirmed compatibility with a large number of AK variants across a wide spectrum of models and manufacturers. Testing in additional models of AK will be an ongoing process, and results will be listed on our website. The Wrangeler is far different from existing AK triggers-It is a drop in 3 position cassette. Additional Wrangeler details will be released over the coming weeks so please subscribe to our social media and our newsletter. My RPK needs a select fire FRT. |
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Originally Posted By Ruckus: You've been here for over 20 years and you don't have a single AK, much less multiples? Shame on you! Everything I know about commie guns I learned at CW1. They belong in a garbage can. I much prefer zeeee Germanzzz and zeee Swiss examples. |
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Ok, LAT received. Installed the Datum Machine pin capture bushings easily. Able to install safety with the trigger pin out, then install pin. Unable to fully close the upper and lower. Hammer is cocked. I know there’s a trick to pulling the charging handle to allow clearance, but this seems moot as I can’t close the upper. Upper is probably Brownells C7 on an 80% forged lower. Have completed these previously with 5D jig and drill press with no prior issues. Welcome your assistance! |
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Originally Posted By SSG-69: Ok, LAT received. Installed the Datum Machine pin capture bushings easily. Able to install safety with the trigger pin out, then install pin. Unable to fully close the upper and lower. Hammer is cocked. I know there’s a trick to pulling the charging handle to allow clearance, but this seems moot as I can’t close the upper. Upper is probably Brownells C7 on an 80% forged lower. Have completed these previously with 5D jig and drill press with no prior issues. Welcome your assistance! @SSG-69 With most of my guns, you can close the upper down onto the lower and pull back on the charging handle. It may take a little "force," but it works on all of my guns. Or you can keep the front takedown pin in the upper, drop the hammer, and swing the upper down onto the lower. |
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Originally Posted By SSG-69: Ok, LAT received. Installed the Datum Machine pin capture bushings easily. Able to install safety with the trigger pin out, then install pin. Unable to fully close the upper and lower. Hammer is cocked. I know there’s a trick to pulling the charging handle to allow clearance, but this seems moot as I can’t close the upper. Upper is probably Brownells C7 on an 80% forged lower. Have completed these previously with 5D jig and drill press with no prior issues. Welcome your assistance! Do the rear pin first, don't do the front pin til after. Rock the upper ever so slightly upwards while gently pulling back the charging handle and the rear should seat. Then do the front pin. |
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Originally Posted By SSG-69: Ok, LAT received. Installed the Datum Machine pin capture bushings easily. Able to install safety with the trigger pin out, then install pin. Unable to fully close the upper and lower. Hammer is cocked. I know there’s a trick to pulling the charging handle to allow clearance, but this seems moot as I can’t close the upper. Upper is probably Brownells C7 on an 80% forged lower. Have completed these previously with 5D jig and drill press with no prior issues. Welcome your assistance! Try hammer un-cocked, front pin in first then rotate close. Pull charging handle a little and the upper will drop far enough to close the rear pin. |
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Originally Posted By Ben: For those who have asked, yes, Rare Breed has officially lost their appeal. The lower court ruling in our favor stands on all fronts. It was a Rule 36 affirmation, meaning the court thought it wasn't even close- completely tilted in our favor. Oh shit, what does that mean? Is it fully over between them and you, or is there anything still pending? |
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Originally Posted By Ben: For those who have asked, yes, Rare Breed has officially lost their appeal. The lower court ruling in our favor stands on all fronts. It was a Rule 36 affirmation, meaning the court thought it wasn't even close- completely tilted in our favor. Man, I wish we had a like button!! |
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Originally Posted By Ben: For those who have asked, yes, Rare Breed has officially lost their appeal. The lower court ruling in our favor stands on all fronts. It was a Rule 36 affirmation, meaning the court thought it wasn't even close- completely tilted in our favor. That's awesoe |
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Originally Posted By Ben: For those who have asked, yes, Rare Breed has officially lost their appeal. The lower court ruling in our favor stands on all fronts. It was a Rule 36 affirmation, meaning the court thought it wasn't even close- completely tilted in our favor. Good! This was my assumption after listening to the hearing. The judge seemed annoyed with RG to put it mildly. |
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A statement from our attorneys: "We’re pleased that the Federal Circuit has now confirmed what we believed all along. Judge Rankin of the District of Wyoming was correct in denying Rare Breed’s motion for TRO and PI, and no injunction should issue against the sale of Peak’s Disruptor triggers. Rare Breed failed to show irreparable harm from the Disruptor sales, failed to show a reasonable likelihood of success on its infringement claim, failed to rebut the substantial question of invalidity as to its patents, and failed to show that the public interest or balance of equities favor an injunction. We look forward to continuing to defend Peak’s rights as the cases move forward.” |
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Originally Posted By Ben: A statement from our attorneys: "We’re pleased that the Federal Circuit has now confirmed what we believed all along. Judge Rankin of the District of Wyoming was correct in denying Rare Breed’s motion for TRO and PI, and no injunction should issue against the sale of Peak’s Disruptor triggers. Rare Breed failed to show irreparable harm from the Disruptor sales, failed to show a reasonable likelihood of success on its infringement claim, failed to rebut the substantial question of invalidity as to its patents, and failed to show that the public interest or balance of equities favor an injunction. We look forward to continuing to defend Peak’s rights as the cases move forward.” I’m very excited to hear what this means. Is it decided that the Disruptor is properly based on the old TacCon patent? |
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Originally Posted By ELittlefield: I’m very excited to hear what this means. Is it decided that the Disruptor is properly based on the old TacCon patent? In b4 mod smackdown for general discussion. It means RB's attempt to clear Triggered from doing business while the case is decided failed. Triggered's doors remain open. Nothing more. RBs infringement case lost a lot of hot air, and Triggered continues to sell while they defend against RBs intellectual property infringement claims. Hoffman was not so fortunate when he was barred from selling his own invention 'cause RB bought rights from a false patent holder. |
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Originally Posted By Ben: For those who have asked, yes, Rare Breed has officially lost their appeal. The lower court ruling in our favor stands on all fronts. It was a Rule 36 affirmation, meaning the court thought it wasn't even close- completely tilted in our favor. 
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Originally Posted By Ben: Do the rear pin first, don't do the front pin til after. Rock the upper ever so slightly upwards while gently pulling back the charging handle and the rear should seat. Then do the front pin. @Ben: This was the only technique that worked for assembly. However, the bolt carrier will not completely retract; the front of bolt, i.e. lugs, are parallel with the rear of the ejection port spring- not far enough to feed a round from the magazine. Safety function, trigger reset functions correctly. A2 forged lower with rifle extension, spring, buffer, pretty vanilla setup. Surplus full auto milspec BCG. consolidated replies: @TOTHEMAX: “With most of my guns, you can close the upper down onto the lower and pull back on the charging handle. It may take a little "force," but it works on all of my guns.” - - Bolt carrier not clearing top of lower receiver. Whether I put the muzzle down and squish against me or just use hand strength, there remains a fishing line width gap and the takedown pin boss hole is not lining up with the takedown pin in the lower by the same fraction. “Or you can keep the front takedown pin in the upper, drop the hammer, and swing the upper down onto the lower.” - - No difference. I also removed the trigger assembly and with it out, lower closes normally without problems. |
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Originally Posted By SSG-69: @Ben: This was the only technique that worked for assembly. However, the bolt carrier will not completely retract; the front of bolt, i.e. lugs, are parallel with the rear of the ejection port spring- not far enough to feed a round from the magazine. Safety function, trigger reset functions correctly. A2 forged lower with rifle extension, spring, buffer, pretty vanilla setup. Surplus full auto milspec BCG. consolidated replies: @TOTHEMAX: “With most of my guns, you can close the upper down onto the lower and pull back on the charging handle. It may take a little "force," but it works on all of my guns.” - - Bolt carrier not clearing top of lower receiver. Whether I put the muzzle down and squish against me or just use hand strength, there remains a fishing line width gap and the takedown pin boss hole is not lining up with the takedown pin in the lower by the same fraction. “Or you can keep the front takedown pin in the upper, drop the hammer, and swing the upper down onto the lower.” - - No difference. I also removed the trigger assembly and with it out, lower closes normally without problems. Originally Posted By SSG-69: Originally Posted By Ben: Do the rear pin first, don't do the front pin til after. Rock the upper ever so slightly upwards while gently pulling back the charging handle and the rear should seat. Then do the front pin. @Ben: This was the only technique that worked for assembly. However, the bolt carrier will not completely retract; the front of bolt, i.e. lugs, are parallel with the rear of the ejection port spring- not far enough to feed a round from the magazine. Safety function, trigger reset functions correctly. A2 forged lower with rifle extension, spring, buffer, pretty vanilla setup. Surplus full auto milspec BCG. consolidated replies: @TOTHEMAX: “With most of my guns, you can close the upper down onto the lower and pull back on the charging handle. It may take a little "force," but it works on all of my guns.” - - Bolt carrier not clearing top of lower receiver. Whether I put the muzzle down and squish against me or just use hand strength, there remains a fishing line width gap and the takedown pin boss hole is not lining up with the takedown pin in the lower by the same fraction. “Or you can keep the front takedown pin in the upper, drop the hammer, and swing the upper down onto the lower.” - - No difference. I also removed the trigger assembly and with it out, lower closes normally without problems. Take some pics. |
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Originally Posted By TOTHEMAX: Take some pics. Here you go. As an aside, I’ve made “more than one” lower over the years, paying attention to jig tightness and wear and tool head wear. There’s a single careless tool chatter from the router near the bolt stop, an area that has no impact on this. And assembled “more than one” factory lower. This problem is novel to me. So, lower could be out of spec/stacking tolerances, but it seems fine absent the LAT. I will try the trigger in other lowers (homemade, known good factory), with another upper, and with other bolt carriers tonight. Both pins in, holding back the charging handle to max. I did not try to mortar it; it’s caught on something: Attached File “Natural” position without rear pin using hand compression: Attached File Position of top of LAT: Attached File Appear to be marks on lower 1/2 of hammer, closer to pin. Carrier drag? contact? Attached File Bolt carrier is new; ramp on underside of carrier. Striations may be drag wear from hammer. I examined another carrier from same batch on upper which has not been on a lower yet, and marks not present. Attached File |
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It definitely could be slight out of spec tolerances with your lower. If you have another mil spec lower I would drop the lat in it and see what it does with that upper. |
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Originally Posted By SSG-69: Here you go. As an aside, I’ve made “more than one” lower over the years, paying attention to jig tightness and wear and tool head wear. There’s a single careless tool chatter from the router near the bolt stop, an area that has no impact on this. And assembled “more than one” factory lower. This problem is novel to me. So, lower could be out of spec/stacking tolerances, but it seems fine absent the LAT. I will try the trigger in other lowers (homemade, known good factory), with another upper, and with other bolt carriers tonight. Both pins in, holding back the charging handle to max. I did not try to mortar it; it’s caught on something: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/597879/IMG_8494_jpeg-3828589.JPG “Natural” position without rear pin using hand compression: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/597879/IMG_8501_jpeg-3828590.JPG Position of top of LAT: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/597879/IMG_8496_jpeg-3828591.JPG Appear to be marks on lower 1/2 of hammer, closer to pin. Carrier drag? contact? https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/597879/IMG_8497_jpeg-3828592.JPG Bolt carrier is new; ramp on underside of carrier. Striations may be drag wear from hammer. I examined another carrier from same batch on upper which has not been on a lower yet, and marks not present. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/597879/IMG_8502_jpeg-3828593.JPG @SSG-69 Please check your PMs. |
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