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Posted: 8/13/2025 2:44:24 PM EDT
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Steel, $10.99. Don't know anything about them, but may try a couple. "Mora Arms T-M16A1: Introducing the Mora Arms T-M16A1 — a dependable 20-round M16A1-style magazine built for shooters who demand classic style and modern reliability. Constructed from durable steel and made in Taiwan, these magazines have been rigorously tested over several months and have proven to deliver consistent, reliable performance." https://www.classicfirearms.com/mora-arms-20rd-ar-15-magazine-223-remington-5-56-nato-grey-vietnam-m16a1-era-style-anti-tilt-follower-made-in-taiwan-t-m16a1/?trk_msg=TQJGT32NCRH4P1I5BTTUPB26H0&trk_contact=3F1R0NS3B9HNNNS9ATRSMSOA34&trk_sid=AAHOQ33NA9M7FM1V5M4PJ5F2AS&trk_link=1NSD49OH9SAKF82RO1KE4IF698&utm_source=listrak&utm_medium=email&utm_term=Shop+Now&utm_campaign=20250813DOTDHumpDayAR15Pistols&utm_content=Primary |
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I got my three today. Look okay. They are new or like new -with a Classic Firearms sealed plastic sleeve. They are made of aluminum (not steel as advertised & non magnetic) and rigid body that is painted silvery gray color, black metal base-plate, plastic follower. The finish is like a paint - not like the USGI silver metallic coating found on USGI 20rd mags of Vietnam era etc. There are no markings of any kind that I can see on them - Seems good for the money. I will try to give them a whirl - Seems like a small retro score. |
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Got my two mags recently. First of all, as already noted they aren't steel. Aluminum with plastic followers. Here they are compared to a Brownells 20 and two old GI 20s, one Adventureline and one Simmonds. Attached File Attached File Lower: Taiwanese; Brownells Upper: Adventureline; Simmonds Attached File Attached File Attached File Attached File Taiwanese; Brownells; Adventureline; Simmonds Haven't taken them to the range yet. |
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Originally Posted By peacematu: Says they have anti-tilt followers. Original straight 20s didn't have such followers. And your point? The originals also had metal followers which these and the Brownells don't have. They're not being sold as exact clones of the originals. From the description: "a dependable 20-round M16A1-style magazine built for shooters who demand classic style and modern reliability." On the Taiwanese mags the middle ribs on the side don't go all the way down, just like the originals. The Brownells middle rib goes all the way to the baseplate. |
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Originally Posted By Strela: And your point? The originals also had metal followers which these and the Brownells don't have. They're not being sold as exact clones of the originals. From the description: "a dependable 20-round M16A1-style magazine built for shooters who demand classic style and modern reliability." On the Taiwanese mags the middle ribs on the side don't go all the way down, just like the originals. The Brownells middle rib goes all the way to the baseplate. Didn't straight 20 rounders made subsequent to the ones with the metal followers have polymer followers that weren't anti-tilt? I'm surprised no one is making straight 20 rounders with metal, non anti-tilt followers. My hunch is they would sell a lot. |
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Originally Posted By Strela: And your point? The originals also had metal followers which these and the Brownells don't have. They're not being sold as exact clones of the originals. From the description: "a dependable 20-round M16A1-style magazine built for shooters who demand classic style and modern reliability." On the Taiwanese mags the middle ribs on the side don't go all the way down, just like the originals. The Brownells middle rib goes all the way to the baseplate. Originally Posted By Strela: Originally Posted By peacematu: Says they have anti-tilt followers. Original straight 20s didn't have such followers. And your point? The originals also had metal followers which these and the Brownells don't have. They're not being sold as exact clones of the originals. From the description: "a dependable 20-round M16A1-style magazine built for shooters who demand classic style and modern reliability." On the Taiwanese mags the middle ribs on the side don't go all the way down, just like the originals. The Brownells middle rib goes all the way to the baseplate. Umm, how does an anti-tilt follower in a straight 20 round mag make it MORE reliable? |
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Originally Posted By peacematu: Didn't straight 20 rounders made subsequent to the ones with the metal followers have polymer followers that weren't anti-tilt? I'm surprised no one is making straight 20 rounders with metal, non anti-tilt followers. My hunch is they would sell a lot. I have the same hunch. Was tilting a problem with the original 20s? |
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I took mine to the range this past weekend. They worked as expected. Classic Arms mis-stated some details, as is almost SOP for retailers to cut and paste and embed misinfo these days- but still happy with the mags for the $10 price point. They look retro and can beat on these vs the originals I have. |
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Originally Posted By backbencher: Umm, how does an anti-tilt follower in a straight 20 round mag make it MORE reliable? Originally Posted By backbencher: Originally Posted By Strela: Originally Posted By peacematu: Says they have anti-tilt followers. Original straight 20s didn't have such followers. And your point? The originals also had metal followers which these and the Brownells don't have. They're not being sold as exact clones of the originals. From the description: "a dependable 20-round M16A1-style magazine built for shooters who demand classic style and modern reliability." On the Taiwanese mags the middle ribs on the side don't go all the way down, just like the originals. The Brownells middle rib goes all the way to the baseplate. Umm, how does an anti-tilt follower in a straight 20 round mag make it MORE reliable? I have no idea. Just quoting the manufacturer/distributor. It's $10.99 and if it works properly that's all I care about. |
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I bought 15 of these magazines, and they are most impressive! The quality of construction was quite the surprise. They have a greenish hue and IMHO too, is that they are aluminum. I haven't loaded them as yet, but hopefully I can put a few through their paces soon. |
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These mags are nice. If you like aluminum followers: Aluminum Follower |
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Are the followers better quality than the rest of parts Masen makes? |
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Originally Posted By nipster74: Are the followers better quality than the rest of parts Masen makes? Originally Posted By nipster74: Are the followers better quality than the rest of parts Masen makes? I've read a handful of complaints online. A friend of mine has a few dozen in rotation and swears by them. No personal experience on my end other than being a bystander with him at the range while shooting. I haven't seen him have issues thus far. |
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Originally Posted By nipster74: Are the followers better quality than the rest of parts Masen makes? Probably not - I kind of think that that is a picture of a polymer/plastic follower and it is "For" Aluminum 20 round magazines - not "made of" aluminum. Kind of hard to tell - Masen has made some good things and sold some neat surplus over the years but he isn't the highest quality manufacturer. |
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Originally Posted By cherenkov: Probably not - I kind of think that that is a picture of a polymer/plastic follower and it is "For" Aluminum 20 round magazines - not "made of" aluminum. Kind of hard to tell - Masen has made some good things and sold some neat surplus over the years but he isn't the highest quality manufacturer. They are cast aluminum. |
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Received mine today. Not overly impressed. Seem kinda cheap and flimsy to be honest. Body appears to be one piece that obviously was bent or pressed around a mandrel or jig. 5 spot welds down the seam. Floor plate seems flimsy, flexes and bends under medium finger pressure. Walls/sides seem to flex under light/medium finger pressure between thumb and forefinger. We have re-qual on the 6th, I'll try to see how they do. I hope they surprise me, but im not expecting much. |
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IMO, they are just like my Colts, but lighter. I suspect that is the difference between the plastic follower and the cast follower. The floor plate might be a little thinner. I haven't used them yet. They may fall apart. We'll see. |
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Originally Posted By peacematu: Didn't straight 20 rounders made subsequent to the ones with the metal followers have polymer followers that weren't anti-tilt? I'm surprised no one is making straight 20 rounders with metal, non anti-tilt followers. My hunch is they would sell a lot. Twenty rounders won't function with a anti tilt follower that's in a thirty rounder. It has to tilt a little to make up for the taper of the shell casing. |
| Just in case anybody is still interested, I bought six of these about 3 months ago. I took them to the range today, and ran 120 rounds thru the A2. No problems with them. They are out of stock however, and have been for a couple of months. If I needed more 20 rounders, I wouldn't hesitate to pick up more if/when they are available. |
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Originally Posted By arfn: Just in case anybody is still interested, I bought six of these about 3 months ago. I took them to the range today, and ran 120 rounds thru the A2. No problems with them. They are out of stock however, and have been for a couple of months. If I needed more 20 rounders, I wouldn't hesitate to pick up more if/when they are available. Retailers are restocking MP5 mags this week from Mora, hopefully that means some of these come back in stock as well. |
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Originally Posted By myitinaw: Originally Posted By backbencher: So is the follower an anti-tilt design, or not? https://cdn.classicfirearms.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/800x600/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/a/d/adobe_express_-_file_7_.png That's a very pretty picture of the top of the follower. That doesn't answer the question. |
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Originally Posted By backbencher: That's a very pretty picture of the top of the follower. That doesn't answer the question. Originally Posted By backbencher: Originally Posted By myitinaw: Originally Posted By backbencher: So is the follower an anti-tilt design, or not? https://cdn.classicfirearms.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/800x600/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/a/d/adobe_express_-_file_7_.png That's a very pretty picture of the top of the follower. That doesn't answer the question. Well.... Had you clicked the product link in Strela's first post, and read the product description, it says anti-tilt follower. |
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Originally Posted By myitinaw: Well.... Had you clicked the product link in Strela's first post, and read the product description, it says anti-tilt follower. Originally Posted By myitinaw: Originally Posted By backbencher: Originally Posted By myitinaw: Originally Posted By backbencher: So is the follower an anti-tilt design, or not? https://cdn.classicfirearms.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/800x600/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/a/d/adobe_express_-_file_7_.png That's a very pretty picture of the top of the follower. That doesn't answer the question. Well.... Had you clicked the product link in Strela's first post, and read the product description, it says anti-tilt follower. I did. And CMMG's own description of their brilliant rotary delayed blowback system says it locks, which it doesn't. And HK parts sells "locking" rollers which don't lock. Hence my question. |
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Originally Posted By backbencher: I did. And CMMG's own description of their brilliant rotary delayed blowback system says it locks, which it doesn't. And HK parts sells "locking" rollers which don't lock. Hence my question. Originally Posted By backbencher: Originally Posted By myitinaw: Originally Posted By backbencher: Originally Posted By myitinaw: Originally Posted By backbencher: So is the follower an anti-tilt design, or not? https://cdn.classicfirearms.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/800x600/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/a/d/adobe_express_-_file_7_.png That's a very pretty picture of the top of the follower. That doesn't answer the question. Well.... Had you clicked the product link in Strela's first post, and read the product description, it says anti-tilt follower. I did. And CMMG's own description of their brilliant rotary delayed blowback system says it locks, which it doesn't. And HK parts sells "locking" rollers which don't lock. Hence my question. Anti-tilt. |
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Originally Posted By arfn: Anti-tilt. Originally Posted By arfn: Originally Posted By backbencher: Originally Posted By myitinaw: Originally Posted By backbencher: Originally Posted By myitinaw: Originally Posted By backbencher: So is the follower an anti-tilt design, or not? https://cdn.classicfirearms.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/800x600/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/a/d/adobe_express_-_file_7_.png That's a very pretty picture of the top of the follower. That doesn't answer the question. Well.... Had you clicked the product link in Strela's first post, and read the product description, it says anti-tilt follower. I did. And CMMG's own description of their brilliant rotary delayed blowback system says it locks, which it doesn't. And HK parts sells "locking" rollers which don't lock. Hence my question. Anti-tilt. What keeps it from tilting? |
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Originally Posted By Brian06: Next month 20s and 30s will become available at some retailers. Only 1,500 of each are coming in this time around. Aluminum mag bodies, anti-tilt followers, and that Vietnam era cool that doesn’t go away  I would be happy to send pics if somebody wants to PM me.Do you know which retailers??? |
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Originally Posted By Brian06: Next month 20s and 30s will become available at some retailers. Only 1,500 of each are coming in this time around. Aluminum mag bodies, anti-tilt followers, and that Vietnam era cool that doesn’t go away I would be happy to send pics if somebody wants to PM me.@Brian06 Any idea on what retailers? |
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Originally Posted By theguymontag: @Brian06 Any idea on what retailers? Originally Posted By theguymontag: @Brian06 Any idea on what retailers? Originally Posted By jdubya87: Do you know which retailers??? Sorry, been busy trying to figure this out, Atlantic Firearms is confirmed and so is War Pig Armory. Still waiting to hear from Classic, and we pumped out a bunch of samples to various retailers/distributors (probably every major retailer/distributor). People love the products, but getting companies to stock them has been difficult. |
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Originally Posted By Brian06: Sorry, been busy trying to figure this out, Atlantic Firearms is confirmed and so is War Pig Armory. Still waiting to hear from Classic, and we pumped out a bunch of samples to various retailers/distributors (probably every major retailer/distributor). People love the products, but getting companies to stock them has been difficult. Thank you, I’ve bought Mora mags from all three vendors you mentioned. I’ll wait to see re: pricing… but I agree that Mora makes good products and should be more available. |
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Originally Posted By Brian06: War Pig Armory will have them in stock soon if not already! They do with about 1100 in stock. $14.99 w/no tax outside OH. |
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Bought two. While using a screwdriver shaft in the hole in the floor plate to lever it off it bent slightly. Much eaiser than expected. While bending it back I could hear the metal bending. Very cheaply made I think with cheap materials. Ill take these to the range tomorrow to shoot with FRT and report back. Follower is not anti tilt and similar in shape to the original metal follower.  20260620_192953 by B A, on Flickr |
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