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Posted: 3/2/2025 7:56:17 AM EDT
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Looking specifically for lubricity. Ignoring all other factors. I've tried the following lubes on ARs: Militec CLP Lucas gun oil (extreme duty and clp) G96 HOPPES Remington Cherry balmz Mobil 1 Go Juice Non toxic MIL-PRF-63460F (Biosynextra) Ballistol Kroil "Ed's red" M Pro7 Slip 2000 And probably a dozen more I can't remember. Out of these, I feel like the Slip 2000 or maybe ALG go juice is the slickest. Going off of memory I havent used slip in a while. The biosynextra mil spec clp is also pretty good and thats what I mostly use right now. In your experience what lube provides the best lubrication ignoring all other factors. |
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I've tried mainly greases. TW25b Mobile1 Red & Tacky (old formula) Red & Tacky (new formula) Red White lithium Cherry Balmz Slip 2000 EWG Hoppes grease Frog Lube Tetra Grease Tetra Obex RIG (as a storage) I think my favorites are TW25b and Frog Lube. For me froglube worked very well and I would use the paste to leave a thin layer along the rails and friction points and it would always stay greasy. I also have a thing for tw25b and that too works very well. Though I would say every grease on my list has worked very well. I think if I had to say the best value for the buck would be Red & Tacky and their White lithium greases. I stopped using it but red & tacky would last forever and back in their old formula a jar of it would last forever. It works. |
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Good engine oil I'm never going back to "gun" oils I've been using 15w40 for years since we had it in bulk for farm equipment. I've never had a functional issue, but there are times it feels maybe a little heavy for really cold winter usage on certain guns like blowback .22lr, etc. I have yet to try 10w30 or anything lighter. |
SOTAR guy uses a blend of Mobil1 oil & Mobil1 grease, looks very similar to one of the fruity greases you mentioned. Concept seems reasonable regardless of what you think of him, he's not selling it so might be worthwhile to try it. Definitely cheap and pretty much any full synthetics would likely work just fine.![]() Home Brew AR Lube & AR Lubrication |
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Depending on where you live makes a difference. In WI, I use a thinner oil in the winter and a bit thicker oil in the summer. As far as room temperature and summertime slickness goes, Lucas Extreme duty gun oil is pretty damn slick to the touch. In the winter here I use Slip 2000 EWL. |
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Originally Posted By Eyeore1966: SOTAR guy uses a blend of Mobil1 oil & Mobil1 grease, looks very similar to one of the fruity greases you mentioned. Concept seems reasonable regardless of what you think of him, he's not selling it so might be worthwhile to try it. Definitely cheap and pretty much any full synthetics would likely work just fine. I've tried that as well. Didn't think it was as slick as some of the others though. |
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For the average joe, it doesn't matter. If you have a full-auto or high firing schedule, run suppressed, or are working in extreme conditions like cold/hot/wet then it might. That said, take a look at Superlube - Variety of grades available, the NLGI #0 is pretty slick Contains PTFE if you're concerned with burnoff & vapor https://www.super-lube.com/multi-purpose-synthetic-grease-with-syncolon https://www.ar15.com/forums/ar-15/Greases-Vs-Oils-can-I-use-Aeroshell-as-an-AR15-lubricant-Standard-CLP-vs-Grease-vs-Thickened-CLP/7-781308/ https://www.ar15.com/forums/Handguns/Which-of-these-greases-is-better-for-metal-to-metal-trigger-parts-/4-210890/ https://www.ar15.com/forums/general/Cherry-Balmz-order-update-/5-2643176/&page=7&anc=107410935#i107415266 Plus your Google/Amazon search history will get interesting when searching for it
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Originally Posted By SHD: Well for the price they charge it should be antigravity slick. For those that don't know, it's usually the go to lubricant for oxygen service, and costs about $3,000 a pound. Do they make more than one type? The krytox I'm seeing is marketed for mechanical keyboards. |
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Originally Posted By stiglitz_actual: For the average joe, it doesn't matter. If you have a full-auto or high firing schedule, run suppressed, or are working in extreme conditions like cold/hot/wet then it might. I shoot suppressed every weekend. But this isn't a practical question. I have enough gun oil to last several life times. I'm just curious what really is the most slippery one. Then ofcourse I'm going to buy it and see, just because. The krytox has me intrigued. |
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Krytox 105 - oil Krytox 205 - grease I have experience with it in my day job. I've never used it on firearms. But you want the best lubricant, period? This is it. It's a perfluorinated lubricant - similar to PTFE/Teflon. The perfluorination makes it non-reactive to just about everything, so it doesn't get washed away (nor will it easily wash off your hands). Perfluorination also makes it stable over a very wide temperature range- like -35° to 400° F. For you chemistry/science nerds - picture your typical organic molecular chains, except that all of the hydrogens are replaced with fluorine. Fluorine has the highest electronegativity and creates the strongest atomic bonds, so nothing can attack it and it's very thermally stable. |
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Originally Posted By FoxValleyTacDriver: Do they make more than one type? The krytox I'm seeing is marketed for mechanical keyboards. Originally Posted By FoxValleyTacDriver: Originally Posted By SHD: Well for the price they charge it should be antigravity slick. For those that don't know, it's usually the go to lubricant for oxygen service, and costs about $3,000 a pound. Do they make more than one type? The krytox I'm seeing is marketed for mechanical keyboards. |
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Originally Posted By intheburbs: Krytox 105 - oil Krytox 205 - grease I have experience with it in my day job. I've never used it on firearms. But you want the best lubricant, period? This is it. It's a perfluorinated lubricant - similar to PTFE/Teflon. The perfluorination makes it non-reactive to just about everything, so it doesn't get washed away (nor will it easily wash off your hands). Perfluorination also makes it stable over a very wide temperature range- like -35° to 400° F. For you chemistry/science nerds - picture your typical organic molecular chains, except that all of the hydrogens are replaced with fluorine. Fluorine has the highest electronegativity and creates the strongest atomic bonds, so nothing can attack it and it's very thermally stable. Huh. That actually sounds like it would work really well if it wasn't 70 bucks an ounce. Though I wonder how long an application would remain slick in a firearm. Hmmm. Maybe I'll buy an ounce and run a match with my AR and see how slick it feels after. For science. May try the grease to get a little more life out of it. The price makes it prohibitive for lubing an entire firearm, but, it could be great for lubing trigger engagement surfaces. |
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Originally Posted By Eyeore1966: SOTAR guy uses a blend of Mobil1 oil & Mobil1 grease, looks very similar to one of the fruity greases you mentioned. Concept seems reasonable regardless of what you think of him, he's not selling it so might be worthwhile to try it. Definitely cheap and pretty much any full synthetics would likely work just fine. Interesting video. |
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Got a tube of name brand krytox 205. At first it doesn't seem much slicker than any other thinner grease. Feels similar to like engine assembly grease like lubriplate. But it definitely adheres to surfaces well. I'm going to keep it for trigger engagement surfaces and bolts for my bolt guns. This tube will last forever for that. Should have got the oil to see that too |
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A slick one is STP Oil Treatment. Bill Wilson used to recommend putting a drop on sears and hammer notches. My go-to is Super Lube grease and oil. This is a synthetic Teflon bearing clear-white lube good from -45 to +450. The grease is a stiff type, the oil is a thin grease-thick oil consistency that stays put, won't evaporate or dry out and will continue working in an action for at least 10 years. It also comes in an aerosol can of spray-on grease. |
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Originally Posted By dfariswheel: My go-to is Super Lube grease and oil. This is a synthetic Teflon bearing clear-white lube good from -45 to +450. Was a fan of Super Lube, and they make many different thicknesses of grease, all the way down to NGL 000. NLG 00 is about the same viscosity as Cherry Balms Black Rifle. But S2000 lubes are good from -60° to +750°. I like to be on the safe side when lubing things that have fire passing through them, like BCGs, and piston systems. |
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Originally Posted By stiglitz_actual: For the average joe, it doesn't matter. If you have a full-auto or high firing schedule, run suppressed, or are working in extreme conditions like cold/hot/wet then it might. That said, take a look at Superlube - Variety of grades available, the NLGI #0 is pretty slick Contains PTFE if you're concerned with burnoff & vapor https://www.super-lube.com/multi-purpose-synthetic-grease-with-syncolon https://www.ar15.com/forums/ar-15/Greases-Vs-Oils-can-I-use-Aeroshell-as-an-AR15-lubricant-Standard-CLP-vs-Grease-vs-Thickened-CLP/7-781308/ https://www.ar15.com/forums/Handguns/Which-of-these-greases-is-better-for-metal-to-metal-trigger-parts-/4-210890/ https://www.ar15.com/forums/general/Cherry-Balmz-order-update-/5-2643176/&page=7&anc=107410935#i107415266 Plus your Google/Amazon search history will get interesting when searching for it ![]() Superlube. |
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I have been using Super Lube, but... To answer the OP's question and based on my scientific testing protocol (putting a drop on my index finger and rubbing between it and my thumb ) EWL and EWL 30 feels slicker to me than Super Lube General Purpose Grease and Oil. Follow the science! |
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I'm a fan of SuperLube for grease and synthetic motor oil for oil. For dry lube I believe Tungsten Disulfide (WS2) is the slickest stuff out there or at least commonly available. I like to mix it with rubbing alcohol and apply it. The alcohol evaporates and leaves a slippery dry film coating. I also mix it into grease for trigger/sear engagement and BCG rails and bolt lugs. |
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Weaponshield and Corrosion-X are the slickest things I've tried, and I've tried most popular products at this point. Clenzoil and Eezox are great CLP's also but they are more for EDC pistols and guns that only have steel on steel friction surfaces. They don't work as well on guns that use aluminum receivers like AR's, 10-22's and Mossberg shotguns. |
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Originally Posted By coyotesilencer: I'm a fan of SuperLube for grease and synthetic motor oil for oil. For dry lube I believe Tungsten Disulfide (WS2) is the slickest stuff out there or at least commonly available. I like to mix it with rubbing alcohol and apply it. The alcohol evaporates and leaves a slippery dry film coating. I also mix it into grease for trigger/sear engagement and BCG rails and bolt lugs. This. Mix Superlube with WS2. Wouldn't hurt to add HBn to the mix. If the Superlube is in a place where it burns off for whatever reason, it leaves you with a dry film of hbn/WS2. WS2 is to my understanding the most lubricious material on earth. Sidenote, HBN, moly, Teflon, and WS2 are all similar, but WS2 is the winner in almost all cases because of science. Think it beats the other products in all categories and can be purchased at smaller microns than the other products but HBN can withstand higher temperatures. It basically embeds itself in the metal and coats with a very shiny and visible dark grey film (it's real hard to not notice). I could be wrong on all this, as I'm not expert. |
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Originally Posted By stiglitz_actual: For the average joe, it doesn't matter. If you have a full-auto or high firing schedule, run suppressed, or are working in extreme conditions like cold/hot/wet then it might. That said, take a look at Superlube - Variety of grades available, the NLGI #0 is pretty slick Contains PTFE if you're concerned with burnoff & vapor https://www.super-lube.com/multi-purpose-synthetic-grease-with-syncolon https://www.ar15.com/forums/ar-15/Greases-Vs-Oils-can-I-use-Aeroshell-as-an-AR15-lubricant-Standard-CLP-vs-Grease-vs-Thickened-CLP/7-781308/ https://www.ar15.com/forums/Handguns/Which-of-these-greases-is-better-for-metal-to-metal-trigger-parts-/4-210890/ https://www.ar15.com/forums/general/Cherry-Balmz-order-update-/5-2643176/&page=7&anc=107410935#i107415266 Plus your Google/Amazon search history will get interesting when searching for it ![]() If someone is running it hard, they should be concerned on what happens when it gets vaporized and aerosolized. |
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A local gunsmith (RIP Dave) and a couple of his brainiac friends had a local chemical company make a waxy substance they called "Parvulus". They packaged it in small tins. It's insanely good, and will be all I use until it runs out. With Dave's death it will be no more. |
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Originally Posted By Eyeore1966: SOTAR guy uses a blend of Mobil1 oil & Mobil1 grease, looks very similar to one of the fruity greases you mentioned. Concept seems reasonable regardless of what you think of him, he's not selling it so might be worthwhile to try it. Definitely cheap and pretty much any full synthetics would likely work just fine. |
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I did some high speed, minimal wear testing a couple of years ago, think MG speeds. LSA won that one for AR's, but it's getting hard to source. SLIP, RadcoLube and popular grease were part of the test I use different lubes for different weapons, seven to be exact. LSA Medium Slip EWL...thin and slippery, mostly on pins Slip Gun Lube..some pistols Radcolube..maintains pistol accuracy through high rd. counts, high temps 3in1 oil..single action revolvers, works great and was recommended. GunFighter Gun Oil...Glocks love this, minimal wear, excellent product. Slide-Glide red or green grease..very slick with minimal wear, long rail pistols I've been shooting for years, these work great for me with the least amount of wear. I respect the above choices and different mixes, I like options but some aren't cheap. |
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) EWL and EWL 30 feels slicker to me than Super Lube General Purpose Grease and Oil.