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1/23/2009 3:58:23 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Buck_Naked][Edited]
I posted a thread in Lancers forum... maybe they might be interested in coming out with a mag for the Armalite AR-10... I really like the AR-15 mags they make...

Give them some feedback and see what they think...

http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=2&f=281&t=169029
1/25/2009 11:43:40 AM EDT
[#1]
I suspect that in a few months it won't matter... we're pulling for thousands of mags per month extra so expect to get backlogs down.
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1/25/2009 5:11:50 PM EDT
[#2]
that thousands a month part sounds good, i could use another 20 mags.
1/25/2009 5:50:13 PM EDT
[#3]
Come on Armalite, license them.  They could make one mag, compatible with AR10s and M14s, double their market, end all this haranguing about which magazine is better to build a platform around and probably increase your sales of AR10s to boot.
1/25/2009 6:05:44 PM EDT
[#4]
Originally Posted By ArmaLite:
I suspect that in a few months it won't matter... we're pulling for thousands of mags per month extra so expect to get backlogs down.


thank you!!! first good news in a long time!!!!!!
will trade food for mags...
1/25/2009 6:33:58 PM EDT
[#5]


Originally Posted By Halfcocked:


Come on Armalite, license them.  They could make one mag, compatible with AR10s and M14s, double their market, end all this haranguing about which magazine is better to build a platform around and probably increase your sales of AR10s to boot.


What is there to license?
 
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9mmQ Buffers => www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=7&f=125&t=263131
1/25/2009 6:47:44 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Halfcocked][Edited] [#6]
Ummm, the patent on their Gen II magazine and follower?
1/25/2009 6:56:38 PM EDT
[#7]
There is no patent on the G2 mags that I'm aware of.  



If someone wants to make polymer mags it would be a completely different design and therefore would not infringe on ArmaLite.



(No, I'm not a lawyer, but this seem to be fairly straightforward.)
CAR-10 AR10 Carbine Buffers => www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=7&f=120&t=229073

9mmQ Buffers => www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=7&f=125&t=263131
1/25/2009 6:57:56 PM EDT
[#8]
I hope you're right.
1/27/2009 10:23:28 AM EDT
[Last Edit: NeverThinkForfeiture][Edited] [#9]
Originally Posted By Slash:

What is there to license?


 



Simple licensing arrangement, but in my opinion critical, especially to carve away some of the customers waiting on the 18-month DPMS backlog.  If I were buying a new .308 platform today, something as simple as PMAG availability would significantly influence my decision.

For instance, take a quality outfit like GA Precision who sells both platforms.  I would not hesitate to go with GA Precision's DPMS-based .308 platform now that PMAGs are available.

Armalite could license the Armalite and/or AR-10 names to put on Armalite compatible PMAGs.  The other .308 PMAGs are already marked generically with just the caliber written on them.  Magpul could sell Armalite/AR-10-labeled PMAGs at $5-$10 more than the other PMAGs, and Armalite would collect some or all of the difference as a licensing fee.

Here is some more food for thought:  labeling the PMAGs with "AR-10" would solidify Armalite's ownership of the term "AR-10" by making it clear to each DPMS-platform owner that his rifle is not called an AR-10.

Those of us with Armalite-compatible platforms have already paid a premium, and I doubt many of us would mind paying more than our DPMS-compatible shooting counterparts pay for PMAGs, provided that the Armalite/AR-10-labeled PMAGs are still a cheaper alternative to Armalite's Gen II proprietary mags.

I would be interested in hearing Armalite's and/or Magpul's response to this.
1/27/2009 10:57:33 AM EDT
[#10]
Originally Posted By Slash:
There is no patent on the G2 mags that I'm aware of.  

If someone wants to make polymer mags it would be a completely different design and therefore would not infringe on ArmaLite.

(No, I'm not a lawyer, but this seem to be fairly straightforward.)


I am probably wrong (again) but I think the spring loaded plunger /bolt stop actuator was the patented part on the gen1 mags. That was the only novel/new part of the assembly.

Anybody ANYBODY can make gen 2 style mags for the AR10. All they have to do is say Armalite and AR10 are trademarks of Armalite blah blah blah...

Yes there would need to be a licensing agreement to put the Armalite or AR10 name/logo on the magazines.

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1/27/2009 12:55:39 PM EDT
[#11]


Originally Posted By NeverThinkForfeiture:





Here is some more food for thought:  labeling the PMAGs with "AR-10" would solidify Armalite's ownership of the term "AR-10" by making it clear to each DPMS-platform owner that his rifle is not called an AR-10.



If only it were that simple.

 
CAR-10 AR10 Carbine Buffers => www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=7&f=120&t=229073

9mmQ Buffers => www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=7&f=125&t=263131
2/8/2009 8:25:21 AM EDT
[#12]
I do not think Lancer has considered .308 mags. With all the new offerings in .308 this year, plus the new 20LR from Magpul, it may be a good year to try a .308 mag. Go to their industry forum and pester them about it.

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2/8/2009 9:58:26 AM EDT
[#13]
YES!  PESTER THEM!

KEEP THIS THREAD AT THE TOP!
2/24/2009 7:56:05 PM EDT
[#14]
anyone else?
2/24/2009 9:52:06 PM EDT
[#15]
I added my .02.
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