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10/18/2025 6:55:05 AM EDT
I saw a Ballistic Advantage DMR Premium 1:8 stainless black 48 oz. with rifle gas, on sale for $99.95. Is it cheap because they're bad? Read reviews good and mediocre accuracy about BA. Will need a handguard and upper receiver also. I'm not wanting to go high end barrel and handguard for this project.
10/18/2025 12:50:36 PM EDT
[Last Edit: bfoosh06][Edited] [#1]
Aero Precision / Ballistic Advantage barrels have been a "hit or miss" to frequently, for me to gamble on.  

I would prefer better odds.

I realize all barrel manufacturers can have duds and super stars... so you "might" be happy with its performance... maybe.

What kind of MOA are you wanting / expecting ?

FWIW... this video shows about what I would expect... and while not your specific barrel, this about what I see frequently.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQs-zQkaLoo

Watch a bunch of his videos... then re-consider choices.

My 2 cents, a very good barrel is a bargain. Especially given the cost of ammo. So don't be allured by bargain barrels.

White Oak Armament has a outstanding reputation.

*Hold on to your AR-15s. Their magic must be very powerful, or they wouldn’t want them.*
JAFOM.... Just another fat old man.

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TOGC,IADC
10/18/2025 4:54:49 PM EDT
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I've had two different BA barrels over the years and both were bad, easily the worst AR barrels I ever tried...the only thing I'd ever use one for is a club.
Left-handed and right-minded!
10/18/2025 5:01:06 PM EDT
[Last Edit: WrenchGuy][Edited] [#3]
White Oak is a quality choice, though you could also look into Green Mountain as they make some quality barrels at a great price.

https://www.gmriflebarrel.com/GMRBItem.aspx?Item=GM-M20&ReturnURL=/military-barrels/ar-15-/-m16-/-m4-rifle-barrels&Category=2756c0ce-174b-46fb-bc11-6723e893d5ea
Left-handed and right-minded!
10/19/2025 8:23:20 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Raidersgone][Edited] [#4]
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Originally Posted By bfoosh06:
Aero Precision / Ballistic Advantage barrels have been a "hit or miss" to frequently, for me to gamble on.  

I would prefer better odds.

I realize all barrel manufacturers can have duds and super stars... so you "might" be happy with its performance... maybe.

What kind of MOA are you wanting / expecting ?

FWIW... this video shows about what I would expect... and while not your specific barrel, this about what I see frequently.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQs-zQkaLoo

Watch a bunch of his videos... then re-consider choices.

My 2 cents, a very good barrel is a bargain. Especially given the cost of ammo. So don't be allured by bargain barrels.

White Oak Armament has a outstanding reputation.

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Thanks. I'm thinking probably not a good choice then, even for the price with hit or miss chance of accuracy on a 20" HBAR. I would like 1-1.5 MOA so I guess I better increase my odds with the higher end ones as recommended.
10/19/2025 8:28:10 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By WrenchGuy:
White Oak is a quality choice, though you could also look into Green Mountain as they make some quality barrels at a great price.

https://www.gmriflebarrel.com/GMRBItem.aspx?Item=GM-M20&ReturnURL=/military-barrels/ar-15-/-m16-/-m4-rifle-barrels&Category=2756c0ce-174b-46fb-bc11-6723e893d5ea
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Thanks for the advice and report of your experience.
10/19/2025 10:04:04 PM EDT
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Criterion 20” HBARs are very accurate for the price and velocity will be 100-200fps faster than every other barrel.
10/22/2025 9:41:16 AM EDT
[#7]
Rock River Arms Predator Pursuit upper.  Checks all the boxes.
10/29/2025 4:46:14 PM EDT
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Here's my list of solid SPR type 223 Wylde/556 barrels (my preference is nitrided 416R barrels). The ones I personally have are Rosco K9 16" 416R Nitrided, Blackhole Weaponry 16" 416R Nitrided, PVA Osprey 18" 416R, Craddock RTR 16" 416R, and Criterion Hybrid 16" 416R Nitrided. I've been able to shoot 10 round sub moa groups with all of them.

Button/CHF rifled:
Rosco K9 16" Intermediate 5.56 Nitrided 416R Continuous Taper Barrel ($225)
Rosco Purebred 18" 223 Wylde 416R SPR Barrel ($235)
Classified Defense 16" 223 Wylde 4150 RAT Profile 1:7 Nitrided (includes barrel, headspaced bolt, gas block, and gas tube) ($450)
Griffin Armament 16" 223 Wylde 1:8 Mid length Nitrided 416R barrel ($290)
SOLGW 16" 223 Wylde 416R Nitrided Mid-length 1:7 SRP Barrel (3 groove polygonal) ($280)
Blackhole Weaponry Custom 16" 223 Wylde 1:8 416R nitrided (3 groove polygonal) ($380)
White Oak 16" 223 Wylde 416R Mid-length 1:7 SPR Barrel ($325)
Criterion HBAR 16" 223 Wylde Mid-length 1:8 416R Barrel ($330)
Criterion Hybrid 16" 223 Wylde Mid-Length 1:8 416R Nitride Barrel ($330)
Criterion HBAR 16" 223 Wylde Mid-length 1:8 4150 Chrome Lined Barrel ($330) (+$90 for headspaced BCM bolt)
Criterion Core (light profile) 16" 223 Wylde Mid-length 1:8 4150 Chrome Lined Barrel ($330) (+ $90 for headspaced BCM bolt)
X-Caliber Custom AR Barrel 16" 223 Wylde Mid-length 1:8 416R ($380)
Craddock RTR 16" 223 Wylde 416R mid 1:7 (MK12 Mod H) ($350)
PVA Osprey 16" 223 Wylde 416R Intermediate 1:8 SPR Profile ($400)
Noveske 16" 5.56 416R 1:7 Mid-length Barrel with pinned gas block & gas tube ($440) (+ $90 for headspaced DLC Noveske bolt)
JP Supermatch Light profile 16" 223 Wylde 1:8 Cryo Treated 416R ($495) (includes headspaced DLC bolt)
Geissele 16" 5.56 CHF Factory Take Off Barrel ($200)
Geissele Heavy CHF Chrome Lined 5.56 1:7 16" ($290)
10/29/2025 4:59:38 PM EDT
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Go 6mm ARC
10/29/2025 5:33:46 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By gunner-g:
Go 6mm ARC
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+1 on this recommendation
10/29/2025 7:26:43 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Raidersgone:
I saw a Ballistic Advantage DMR Premium 1:8 stainless black 48 oz. with rifle gas, on sale for $99.95. Is it cheap because they're bad? Read reviews good and mediocre accuracy about BA. Will need a handguard and upper receiver also. I'm not wanting to go high end barrel and handguard for this project.
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I have the 20" BA Premium Fluted barrel.  It's around $210.  I have not been disappointed with it.  My BA 16" Premium Fluted barrel is slightly more accurate.  The non fluted barrel is just too heavy.  

kwg
10/31/2025 8:41:27 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By WeR0206:
Here's my list of solid SPR type 223 Wylde/556 barrels (my preference is nitrided 416R barrels). The ones I personally have are Rosco K9 16" 416R Nitrided, Blackhole Weaponry 16" 416R Nitrided, PVA Osprey 18" 416R, Craddock RTR 16" 416R, and Criterion Hybrid 16" 416R Nitrided. I've been able to shoot 10 round sub moa groups with all of them.

Button/CHF rifled:
Rosco K9 16" Intermediate 5.56 Nitrided 416R Continuous Taper Barrel ($225)
Rosco Purebred 18" 223 Wylde 416R SPR Barrel ($235)
Classified Defense 16" 223 Wylde 4150 RAT Profile 1:7 Nitrided (includes barrel, headspaced bolt, gas block, and gas tube) ($450)
Griffin Armament 16" 223 Wylde 1:8 Mid length Nitrided 416R barrel ($290)
SOLGW 16" 223 Wylde 416R Nitrided Mid-length 1:7 SRP Barrel (3 groove polygonal) ($280)
Blackhole Weaponry Custom 16" 223 Wylde 1:8 416R nitrided (3 groove polygonal) ($380)
White Oak 16" 223 Wylde 416R Mid-length 1:7 SPR Barrel ($325)
Criterion HBAR 16" 223 Wylde Mid-length 1:8 416R Barrel ($330)
Criterion Hybrid 16" 223 Wylde Mid-Length 1:8 416R Nitride Barrel ($330)
Criterion HBAR 16" 223 Wylde Mid-length 1:8 4150 Chrome Lined Barrel ($330) (+$90 for headspaced BCM bolt)
Criterion Core (light profile) 16" 223 Wylde Mid-length 1:8 4150 Chrome Lined Barrel ($330) (+ $90 for headspaced BCM bolt)
X-Caliber Custom AR Barrel 16" 223 Wylde Mid-length 1:8 416R ($380)
Craddock RTR 16" 223 Wylde 416R mid 1:7 (MK12 Mod H) ($350)
PVA Osprey 16" 223 Wylde 416R Intermediate 1:8 SPR Profile ($400)
Noveske 16" 5.56 416R 1:7 Mid-length Barrel with pinned gas block & gas tube ($440) (+ $90 for headspaced DLC Noveske bolt)
JP Supermatch Light profile 16" 223 Wylde 1:8 Cryo Treated 416R ($495) (includes headspaced DLC bolt)
Geissele 16" 5.56 CHF Factory Take Off Barrel ($200)
Geissele Heavy CHF Chrome Lined 5.56 1:7 16" ($290)
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Thanks for the list of recommendations with prices. What ammo are you using in 1:8's to get sub moa?
10/31/2025 8:45:06 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By kwg020:


I have the 20" BA Premium Fluted barrel.  It's around $210.  I have not been disappointed with it.  My BA 16" Premium Fluted barrel is slightly more accurate.  The non fluted barrel is just too heavy.  

kwg
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Thanks. The 16" being more accurate than a 20" has me wondering why?
11/14/2025 12:21:20 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Raidersgone:

Thanks for the list of recommendations with prices. What ammo are you using in 1:8's to get sub moa?
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Sorry, just saw your post. I'm using 77 grain sierra matchking bullets in handloads (AA 2520 or 8208 XBR powder) in Lake City Brass @ 2.260". For factory loads you can go with federal gold medal match or black hills 77 grain OTM.

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