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Official SAM-R and SDM-R photo and discussion thread.....yep we are doing this again. (Page 25 of 29)
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Originally Posted By Bakwa: I see a hole in the bottom. Are these going to be designed as pinned or set screwed GB's? The OG's were pinned if I remember. Originally Posted By Bakwa: Originally Posted By orpheus762x51: Slowly and steadily getting there  I think everyone will be satisfied with the discreetly placed logo at 6 o'clock. Very authentic aesthetic, without the ability for someone to try and pass it off as authentic for a crazy mark up. https://i.ibb.co/Jp70nQt/Screenshot-20230125-162256-Gmail.jpg I see a hole in the bottom. Are these going to be designed as pinned or set screwed GB's? The OG's were pinned if I remember. Gotta drill the gasport somehow. |
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Originally Posted By CMCctx: I tried buying that off of you a few years back making a gas block ismt even gonna be that bad. simple mill work really. |
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Originally Posted By orpheus762x51: All DMs replied to. As of right now, this is the list of people who want a PWS repro block: @accurange @CMCctx @ringer706 @5pt56 @Acetomco @TheFlyingNerd41 @smashhole1320 @Bakwa @Theodoric @eaglefive If you do not see your name on the list, I do not have contact info for you. It's not too late to get in yet, James has not gone into production yet. When he does, there may be a couple extras, but that is not guaranteed. I will post updates as I receive them. ETA; I need THREE. Will Email & DM you. Thank you. |
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All, I'm doing my best to keep track, here's an update of who is on the list. If you don't see your SN, please contact me. @accurange @CMCctx @ringer706 @5pt56 @Acetomco @TheFlyingNerd41 @smashhole1320 @Bakwa @Theodoric @eaglefive @siles76 @SteelOnTarget29 @BSOG1 @JCap @Dark_zero_x @sleipnir_tacoma @JT505th (x3) |
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Originally Posted By MDStroup: How much would the gas block be? Originally Posted By MDStroup: How much would the gas block be? Not sure yet. I think we're realistically looking at somewhere in the ballpark of $300-500. It's a one off thing, so materials, time, finishing, etc. aren't coming cheap. Originally Posted By HaveBlue83: found something.....  its already 7/8 thick toooooohttps://i.postimg.cc/6qXCGB33/IMG-20230215-131447638.jpg What are the details on that? |
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Originally Posted By orpheus762x51: Not sure yet. I think we're realistically looking at somewhere in the ballpark of $300-500. It's a one off thing, so materials, time, finishing, etc. aren't coming cheap. What are the details on that? |
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So I finally built a SAM R. I have had parts for a while and didn't want to build just another 5.56 when I had already built all four of the MK12's. I had read about the new 6mm ARC and was intrigued. I called up CLE and had them turn me a Criterion SAM-R profile barrel, just in 6mm ARC. I still need to get the gas block mounted and work on the NT4 by maybe opening up the bore a smidge. I know that the Knightforce is not kosher but I have all the Leupold Mk4's and wanted something different.   |
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Here's mine. I built it as soon as the parts were available bitd. ADCO had the proper Douglas SDM-R profile barrels way before anybody else made them available. I have the proper set screw/windage adjustable front sight, with bayonet lug ordered from CLE As you can see, the barrel fluting is pretty aggressive.       |
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Hi guys, I'm just now getting around to building my SDM-R. Talking to Compass Lake Engineering on the barrel. I have the correct DD rail but do not have the collar with the flats or steel barrel nut as observed in pictures. Does anybody out there have one of the collars with flats on it they would part with? If somebody has one they won't part with, would you be willing allow a machine shop to make copies of this w/ CNC equipment if it could be done without getting into trouble with DD? There may be enough cloners out there to make it worthwhile for a machine shop to make a few. Thoughts guys. Thanks. |
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Originally Posted By M16Alpha2: Hi guys, I'm just now getting around to building my SDM-R. Talking to Compass Lake Engineering on the barrel. I have the correct DD rail but do not have the collar with the flats or steel barrel nut as observed in pictures. Does anybody out there have one of the collars with flats on it they would part with? If somebody has one they won't part with, would you be willing allow a machine shop to make copies of this w/ CNC equipment if it could be done without getting into trouble with DD? There may be enough cloners out there to make it worthwhile for a machine shop to make a few. Thoughts guys. Thanks. I'd be down for a "clone collar" |
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Originally Posted By Cyclic240B: I'd be down for a "clone collar" Originally Posted By Cyclic240B: Originally Posted By M16Alpha2: Hi guys, I'm just now getting around to building my SDM-R. Talking to Compass Lake Engineering on the barrel. I have the correct DD rail but do not have the collar with the flats or steel barrel nut as observed in pictures. Does anybody out there have one of the collars with flats on it they would part with? If somebody has one they won't part with, would you be willing allow a machine shop to make copies of this w/ CNC equipment if it could be done without getting into trouble with DD? There may be enough cloners out there to make it worthwhile for a machine shop to make a few. Thoughts guys. Thanks. I'd be down for a "clone collar" Ditto on that. 
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Alright, working on a drawing right now for the old-style faceted DD handguard nut for the SDM-R. Not going to do steel barrel nuts, this is the handguard nut only. Going to up front, it will probably be a little pricey. Can't say anything for certain before I have a quote back from the machine shop and for hardcoat anodizing, but my ballpark guess is that it'll be in the $100-$200 range since I'm probably only going to make ~25. Again, and I can't say it enough, that number is very much subject to change. It's not the cheapest/easiest part to machine. There's probably a reason they went to a mostly turned nut later on with only a few milled flats. Hint: $$$ What I really need to go forward is to know if that's feasible for anyone looking. Probably going to need to do a waitlist to get it off the ground. Gentlemen, thoughts? @FrankW134 @Cyclic240B @M16Alpha2 @eaglefive |
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Originally Posted By ringer706: Alright, working on a drawing right now for the old-style faceted DD handguard nut for the SDM-R. Not going to do steel barrel nuts, this is the handguard nut only. Going to up front, it will probably be a little pricey. Can't say anything for certain before I have a quote back from the machine shop and for hardcoat anodizing, but my ballpark guess is that it'll be in the $100-$200 range since I'm probably only going to make ~25. Again, and I can't say it enough, that number is very much subject to change. It's not the cheapest/easiest part to machine. There's probably a reason they went to a mostly turned nut later on with only a few milled flats. Hint: $$$ What I really need to go forward is to know if that's feasible for anyone looking. Probably going to need to do a waitlist to get it off the ground. Gentlemen, thoughts? @FrankW134 @Cyclic240B @M16Alpha2 @eaglefive ringer706 I sent you a PM |
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Originally Posted By ringer706: Alright, working on a drawing right now for the old-style faceted DD handguard nut for the SDM-R. Not going to do steel barrel nuts, this is the handguard nut only. Going to up front, it will probably be a little pricey. Can't say anything for certain before I have a quote back from the machine shop and for hardcoat anodizing, but my ballpark guess is that it'll be in the $100-$200 range since I'm probably only going to make ~25. Again, and I can't say it enough, that number is very much subject to change. It's not the cheapest/easiest part to machine. There's probably a reason they went to a mostly turned nut later on with only a few milled flats. Hint: $$$ What I really need to go forward is to know if that's feasible for anyone looking. Probably going to need to do a waitlist to get it off the ground. Gentlemen, thoughts? @FrankW134 @Cyclic240B @M16Alpha2 @eaglefive I’d be interested in one. |
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https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1009588950?pid=422394 Y'all need to know as well |
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Originally Posted By HaveBlue83: https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1009588950?pid=422394 Y'all need to know as well Says 5 left but when I try to put it in my cart it says unavailable. 
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Originally Posted By HaveBlue83: Weird. I already ordered mine lol Originally Posted By HaveBlue83: Originally Posted By SecretSquirell: Says 5 left but when I try to put it in my cart it says unavailable.  I don't need to be buying more glass right now anyway. Just getting over the wallet-shock on S&B glass. 
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Originally Posted By Elvis121: Did these SAM-R repro gas blocks ever pan out? Any way to get one still? They're about 90% prototyped, but unfortunately they only get worked on when War Machine LLC has down time (they often don't). They're being worked on, but it's very much a "they'll be done when they're done" proposition. The up shot is, no payment up front is required. The word I got from War Machine was that no one will be asked for payment until they're complete. |
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Originally Posted By orpheus762x51: They're about 90% prototyped, but unfortunately they only get worked on when War Machine LLC has down time (they often don't). They're being worked on, but it's very much a "they'll be done when they're done" proposition. The up shot is, no payment up front is required. The word I got from War Machine was that no one will be asked for payment until they're complete. Hell yeah. If anyone's keeping a list put me on it please. |
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Originally Posted By HaveBlue83: Thread bump with the wish.com BCM-R. https://i.postimg.cc/g09ZjzVX/IMG-20231016-182356776-2.jpg I'll see myself out lol. FSGB is the harder part to source. Get on a waiting list to replace that handguard and you're one step closer. |
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Originally Posted By WTFShane: FSGB is the harder part to source. Get on a waiting list to replace that handguard and you're one step closer. Welp....I had a KAC FF RAS, on a SAM-R clone awhile back.....it shot loose, a few times. Funny enough; the two real SAM-R uppers I worked on came in with red locktite and setscrews in the rails.....and both the rails were broken at the nut and I had to machine new threaded end inserts and press them in. I get its correct but it's not really good at all. I'd be more inclined to do a SDMR if anything. I moved on from KAC parts, thankfully.... |
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Originally Posted By HaveBlue83: Welp....I had a KAC FF RAS, on a SAM-R clone awhile back.....it shot loose, a few times. Funny enough; the two real SAM-R uppers I worked on came in with red locktite and setscrews in the rails.....and both the rails were broken at the nut and I had to machine new threaded end inserts and press them in. I get its correct but it's not really good at all. I'd be more inclined to do a SDMR if anything. I moved on from KAC parts, thankfully.... Originally Posted By HaveBlue83: Originally Posted By WTFShane: FSGB is the harder part to source. Get on a waiting list to replace that handguard and you're one step closer. Welp....I had a KAC FF RAS, on a SAM-R clone awhile back.....it shot loose, a few times. Funny enough; the two real SAM-R uppers I worked on came in with red locktite and setscrews in the rails.....and both the rails were broken at the nut and I had to machine new threaded end inserts and press them in. I get its correct but it's not really good at all. I'd be more inclined to do a SDMR if anything. I moved on from KAC parts, thankfully.... |
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| Anybody know the finishing process for original SDMR barrels? I read before that they were rattlecanned with high heat paint, but I'm unsure if that's true or not. I'm working on building mine currently. Painted my barrel over the weekend and while putting it all together, I had to remove just about all the paint from the step up on which the FSB sits or else it wouldn't have fit. A bit disgruntled that my nice paint job is ruined now. Really curious as to how they managed to do it back then as most pictures I see, yes the barrel has paint scratched off, but underneath the FSB it looks fine. I assume they did spray the barrels prior to assembly. Any help is greatly appreciated. |
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Originally Posted By Camaro69396: Anybody know the finishing process for original SDMR barrels? I read before that they were rattlecanned with high heat paint, but I'm unsure if that's true or not. I'm working on building mine currently. Painted my barrel over the weekend and while putting it all together, I had to remove just about all the paint from the step up on which the FSB sits or else it wouldn't have fit. A bit disgruntled that my nice paint job is ruined now. Really curious as to how they managed to do it back then as most pictures I see, yes the barrel has paint scratched off, but underneath the FSB it looks fine. I assume they did spray the barrels prior to assembly. Any help is greatly appreciated. I kryloned mine almost 15 years ago, still looks good. |
| I painted after assembly, did not bake. My barrel is a superior barrels barrel that is basically a nitrided CLE barrel. No issues with the paint adhering to the barrel without baking, the only wear is to areas that are commonly touched such as the grip and handguard. |
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Originally Posted By JTM20: If it has the octagonal collar i would pay a decent amount. I’m itching to get the build done. https://i.imgur.com/NeSVb8Al.jpg Originally Posted By JTM20: Originally Posted By FrankW134: I'd pay upper double digits for one. If it has the octagonal collar i would pay a decent amount. I’m itching to get the build done. https://i.imgur.com/NeSVb8Al.jpg I misread bigbores post, I need the octagonal nut, not the barrel nut. |
Official SAM-R and SDM-R photo and discussion thread.....yep we are doing this again. (Page 25 of 29)
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