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7/14/2015 6:11:46 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By gaston4:
Finally got the chance to fix one of those small details on the Mod 1 that has been bugging me. Big thanks to ABNglocker to selling it to me.

Also, do any of you have a crush washer laying in your parts bin you'd be willing to sell/donate? It would seem that I've removed and installed my Ops brake too many times, and now the crush washer is too flattened out.
I tried to time it like I used to, and it gets super tight before it gets anywhere close to where it should be.

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/299/19683808361_9c71c36e8c_c.jpg

ETA: Accidental page ownage. Pic of whole gun:

https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8768/17150280978_4ab85c5ec0_c.jpg
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Have a bunch in a tackle box.. shoot me your address and i'll see if I cant throw them in the mail.
7/14/2015 6:33:05 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By mtbspeedfreak:
I'm tired of my CAR stock, what's the best place for a surplus A1?

I found the trapdoor type in excellent shape: http://www.gunnyssurplus.com/m16a1-buttst161.html

And the non-trapdoor type in fair to good: https://www.gunpartscorp.com/ad/564720.htm

Any other places I'm missing?
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Look in the EE or place a WTB ad there.
You could also see if boywonder777 or jhud still have any, they hangout in the retro forum.


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7/14/2015 6:42:44 PM EDT
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Newb question....who has the proper MK12 barrels in stock?  Also, are the DPMS MK12 barrels any good, and will the Ops Inc collar fit on them?  Just looking at my options.

Thanks
7/14/2015 6:46:32 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By OilfieldTrash78:


Newb question....who has the proper MK12 barrels in stock?  Also, are the DPMS MK12 barrels any good, and will the Ops Inc collar fit on them?  Just looking at my options.



Thanks
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7/14/2015 7:11:37 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By OilfieldTrash78:
Newb question....who has the proper MK12 barrels in stock?  Also, are the DPMS MK12 barrels any good, and will the Ops Inc collar fit on them?  Just looking at my options.

Thanks
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DPMS Mk12 barrels have nothing to do with anything Mk12, it's just a label. They do not work.

Get on Reddit and find my Mk12 cloning posts. I have parts lists and barrel options there.
7/14/2015 7:29:43 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By lancecriminal86:


DPMS Mk12 barrels have nothing to do with anything Mk12, it's just a label. They do not work.

Get on Reddit and find my Mk12 cloning posts. I have parts lists and barrel options there.
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Originally Posted By lancecriminal86:
Originally Posted By OilfieldTrash78:
Newb question....who has the proper MK12 barrels in stock?  Also, are the DPMS MK12 barrels any good, and will the Ops Inc collar fit on them?  Just looking at my options.

Thanks


DPMS Mk12 barrels have nothing to do with anything Mk12, it's just a label. They do not work.

Get on Reddit and find my Mk12 cloning posts. I have parts lists and barrel options there.


Would you happen to have a link?...I don't know anything about reddit.
Thanks
7/14/2015 7:37:28 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By OilfieldTrash78:


Would you happen to have a link?...I don't know anything about reddit.
Thanks
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Originally Posted By OilfieldTrash78:
Originally Posted By lancecriminal86:
Originally Posted By OilfieldTrash78:
Newb question....who has the proper MK12 barrels in stock?  Also, are the DPMS MK12 barrels any good, and will the Ops Inc collar fit on them?  Just looking at my options.

Thanks


DPMS Mk12 barrels have nothing to do with anything Mk12, it's just a label. They do not work.

Get on Reddit and find my Mk12 cloning posts. I have parts lists and barrel options there.


Would you happen to have a link?...I don't know anything about reddit.
Thanks


http://www.reddit.com/r/ar15/comments/2zmb66/mk12_clone_spec_sheets/
In the absence of a plan, move toward the sound of gunfire and kill everything.

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7/14/2015 7:59:16 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Originally Posted By OilfieldTrash78:
Originally Posted By lancecriminal86:
Originally Posted By OilfieldTrash78:
Newb question....who has the proper MK12 barrels in stock?  Also, are the DPMS MK12 barrels any good, and will the Ops Inc collar fit on them?  Just looking at my options.

Thanks


DPMS Mk12 barrels have nothing to do with anything Mk12, it's just a label. They do not work.

Get on Reddit and find my Mk12 cloning posts. I have parts lists and barrel options there.


Would you happen to have a link?...I don't know anything about reddit.
Thanks


http://www.reddit.com/r/ar15/comments/2zmb66/mk12_clone_spec_sheets/


Thanks Milspec

I primarily focused on the hardcore 100% clone spec in that list, however there are some budget friendly alternatives that stick 100% to the clone appearance.

Great barrel options again are obviously the White Oak Armament SPR barrel, Ballistic Advantage's gets the nod for $$$ for performance. Rainier Arms offers their Match and UltraMatch in the Mk12 SPR contour. Lastly for max cost but 100% SPEC, you can get a Douglas 1:7 twist Mk12 barrel via High Caliber Sales, Compass Lake Engineering, or Precision Reflex. Compass Lake can even spin you a barrel off a Criterion (budget friendly, but very accurate chrome lined barrels) or a Krieger blank (biggest cost but absolute top shelf, considered even better than the Douglas to some.

As far as BCGs and other sundry bits go, just stick to Mil Spec type stuff. It doesn't have to be a Colts, but BCM, DD, Toolcraft, LMT, etc all produce excellent BCGs and small parts. Let us know what Mod you are eyeballing and we will set you on the right path.
7/14/2015 8:03:43 PM EDT
[#9]
Thanks for the link!!  That helps out a lot...now, if I go to Compass Lake, what barrel type, and chamber do I need to order?
7/14/2015 8:12:02 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By lancecriminal86:


Thanks Milspec

I primarily focused on the hardcore 100% clone spec in that list, however there are some budget friendly alternatives that stick 100% to the clone appearance.

Great barrel options again are obviously the White Oak Armament SPR barrel, Ballistic Advantage's gets the nod for $$$ for performance. Rainier Arms offers their Match and UltraMatch in the Mk12 SPR contour. Lastly for max cost but 100% SPEC, you can get a Douglas 1:7 twist Mk12 barrel via High Caliber Sales, Compass Lake Engineering, or Precision Reflex. Compass Lake can even spin you a barrel off a Criterion (budget friendly, but very accurate chrome lined barrels) or a Krieger blank (biggest cost but absolute top shelf, considered even better than the Douglas to some.

As far as BCGs and other sundry bits go, just stick to Mil Spec type stuff. It doesn't have to be a Colts, but BCM, DD, Toolcraft, LMT, etc all produce excellent BCGs and small parts. Let us know what Mod you are eyeballing and we will set you on the right path.
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Originally Posted By lancecriminal86:
Originally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Originally Posted By OilfieldTrash78:
Originally Posted By lancecriminal86:
Originally Posted By OilfieldTrash78:
Newb question....who has the proper MK12 barrels in stock?  Also, are the DPMS MK12 barrels any good, and will the Ops Inc collar fit on them?  Just looking at my options.

Thanks


DPMS Mk12 barrels have nothing to do with anything Mk12, it's just a label. They do not work.

Get on Reddit and find my Mk12 cloning posts. I have parts lists and barrel options there.


Would you happen to have a link?...I don't know anything about reddit.
Thanks


http://www.reddit.com/r/ar15/comments/2zmb66/mk12_clone_spec_sheets/


Thanks Milspec

I primarily focused on the hardcore 100% clone spec in that list, however there are some budget friendly alternatives that stick 100% to the clone appearance.

Great barrel options again are obviously the White Oak Armament SPR barrel, Ballistic Advantage's gets the nod for $$$ for performance. Rainier Arms offers their Match and UltraMatch in the Mk12 SPR contour. Lastly for max cost but 100% SPEC, you can get a Douglas 1:7 twist Mk12 barrel via High Caliber Sales, Compass Lake Engineering, or Precision Reflex. Compass Lake can even spin you a barrel off a Criterion (budget friendly, but very accurate chrome lined barrels) or a Krieger blank (biggest cost but absolute top shelf, considered even better than the Douglas to some.

As far as BCGs and other sundry bits go, just stick to Mil Spec type stuff. It doesn't have to be a Colts, but BCM, DD, Toolcraft, LMT, etc all produce excellent BCGs and small parts. Let us know what Mod you are eyeballing and we will set you on the right path.


Is there any other way? I know when I buy cheaper parts for my clones I end up getting ultra screwed money wise, cause I buy that part and then OCD takes over and I have to buy the correct part as well. Gets expensive.

And no problemo to you both, LCpl (or LCrl? ) and the roughneck.
In the absence of a plan, move toward the sound of gunfire and kill everything.

If it aint a clone or the gun being cloned, it aint shit.
7/14/2015 8:12:24 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By OilfieldTrash78:


Thanks for the link!!  That helps out a lot...now, if I go to Compass Lake, what barrel type, and chamber do I need to order?
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I guess CLE Match is 5.56. However, I like Wylde
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7/14/2015 8:12:50 PM EDT
[Last Edit: HaveBlue83][Edited] [#12]
this is correct for Mod H, yes? good ops collar profile? EDIT: crap....its 1:8
http://ballisticadvantage.com/16-inch-223-wylde-spr-mid-length-ss-premium-barrel.html


 
7/14/2015 8:23:05 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By HaveBlue83:
this is correct for Mod H, yes? good ops collar profile? EDIT: crap....its 1:8

http://ballisticadvantage.com/16-inch-223-wylde-spr-mid-length-ss-premium-barrel.html  
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Not seeing the mention of the OPS contour....

What's wrong with 1:8?
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7/14/2015 8:33:33 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Engineer5:
Not seeing the mention of the OPS contour....



What's wrong with 1:8?
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Originally Posted By HaveBlue83:

this is correct for Mod H, yes? good ops collar profile? EDIT: crap....its 1:8



http://ballisticadvantage.com/16-inch-223-wylde-spr-mid-length-ss-premium-barrel.html  




Not seeing the mention of the OPS contour....



What's wrong with 1:8?




 
Darn. Good deal. 1:8 is fine just figured its all 1:7 for legitness.
7/14/2015 8:42:08 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By HaveBlue83:

  Darn. Good deal. 1:8 is fine just figured its all 1:7 for legitness.
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Originally Posted By HaveBlue83:
Originally Posted By Engineer5:
Originally Posted By HaveBlue83:
this is correct for Mod H, yes? good ops collar profile? EDIT: crap....its 1:8

http://ballisticadvantage.com/16-inch-223-wylde-spr-mid-length-ss-premium-barrel.html  


Not seeing the mention of the OPS contour....

What's wrong with 1:8?

  Darn. Good deal. 1:8 is fine just figured its all 1:7 for legitness.



BA does make an ops-profiled barrel.

That, however, is not it.

I'm probably picking up one of those Saturday for a build for the missus.
7/14/2015 8:44:19 PM EDT
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BA does make an ops-profiled barrel.

That, however, is not it.

I'm probably picking up one of those Saturday for a build for the missus.
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Originally Posted By HaveBlue83:
Originally Posted By Engineer5:
Originally Posted By HaveBlue83:
this is correct for Mod H, yes? good ops collar profile? EDIT: crap....its 1:8

http://ballisticadvantage.com/16-inch-223-wylde-spr-mid-length-ss-premium-barrel.html  


Not seeing the mention of the OPS contour....

What's wrong with 1:8?

  Darn. Good deal. 1:8 is fine just figured its all 1:7 for legitness.



BA does make an ops-profiled barrel.

That, however, is not it.

I'm probably picking up one of those Saturday for a build for the missus.


Thanks babe. I've wanted one for a while!


In the absence of a plan, move toward the sound of gunfire and kill everything.

If it aint a clone or the gun being cloned, it aint shit.
7/14/2015 8:54:32 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By MrFrZZ:
Have a bunch in a tackle box.. shoot me your address and i'll see if I cant throw them in the mail.

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Originally Posted By gaston4:

Finally got the chance to fix one of those small details on the Mod 1 that has been bugging me. Big thanks to ABNglocker to selling it to me.



Also, do any of you have a crush washer laying in your parts bin you'd be willing to sell/donate? It would seem that I've removed and installed my Ops brake too many times, and now the crush washer is too flattened out.

I tried to time it like I used to, and it gets super tight before it gets anywhere close to where it should be.



https://farm1.staticflickr.com/299/19683808361_9c71c36e8c_c.jpg



ETA: Accidental page ownage. Pic of whole gun:



https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8768/17150280978_4ab85c5ec0_c.jpg




Have a bunch in a tackle box.. shoot me your address and i'll see if I cant throw them in the mail.





 
I've got one in the mailbox headed his way.
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7/14/2015 9:01:22 PM EDT
[#18]
Got two builds and two scopes. From an accuracy/seen in wild standpoint would a NF 2.5x32 in a LaRue mount be best on a Holland or a Mod1? I know a NF x24 would be the best choice but they are too much $$.
7/14/2015 9:11:15 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By lancecriminal86:
DPMS Mk12 barrels have nothing to do with anything Mk12, it's just a label. They do not work.



Get on Reddit and find my Mk12 cloning posts. I have parts lists and barrel options there.
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Originally Posted By OilfieldTrash78:

Newb question....who has the proper MK12 barrels in stock?  Also, are the DPMS MK12 barrels any good, and will the Ops Inc collar fit on them?  Just looking at my options.



Thanks




DPMS Mk12 barrels have nothing to do with anything Mk12, it's just a label. They do not work.



Get on Reddit and find my Mk12 cloning posts. I have parts lists and barrel options there.




 
Gonna edit my OP to include your parts lists. Probably should've done that a while back. Good shit, LC.
http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1604816_Gentle_Propositions____BOOK_IS_LIVE_ON_AMAZON___.html
7/14/2015 9:13:16 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Jax_Guns:
Got two builds and two scopes. From an accuracy/seen in wild standpoint would a NF 2.5x32 in a LaRue mount be best on a Holland or a Mod1? I know a NF x24 would be the best choice but they are too much $$.
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AFAIK, the NF scopes were only on Navy Mod 1s. As far as I've seen, the only scopes on the USMC Mod 1s and the Army Mod 0 / Hollands have all been the Leupolds. Also, even though we've been told that the x32 ended up getting issued, I don't think we've ever seen a pic of one in the wild.

I think all the Hollands we've seen have either been the TS-30s that came off of the Mod 0s when they were swapped out or just one-off scopes that were found in the armory and repurposed. So maybe somewhere a NF is sitting on a Holland, but I don't think we've seen that yet.

From an accuracy standpoint, either will do. Both the Leupold and the NF will be plenty powerful and clear for the ranges that the Mk 12 is best at.
7/14/2015 9:25:19 PM EDT
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AFAIK, the NF scopes were only on Navy Mod 1s. As far as I've seen, the only scopes on the USMC Mod 1s and the Army Mod 0 / Hollands have all been the Leupolds. Also, even though we've been told that the x32 ended up getting issued, I don't think we've ever seen a pic of one in the wild.



I think all the Hollands we've seen have either been the TS-30s that came off of the Mod 0s when they were swapped out or just one-off scopes that were found in the armory and repurposed. So maybe somewhere a NF is sitting on a Holland, but I don't think we've seen that yet.



From an accuracy standpoint, either will do. Both the Leupold and the NF will be plenty powerful and clear for the ranges that the Mk 12 is best at.
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Originally Posted By Jax_Guns:

Got two builds and two scopes. From an accuracy/seen in wild standpoint would a NF 2.5x32 in a LaRue mount be best on a Holland or a Mod1? I know a NF x24 would be the best choice but they are too much $$.




AFAIK, the NF scopes were only on Navy Mod 1s. As far as I've seen, the only scopes on the USMC Mod 1s and the Army Mod 0 / Hollands have all been the Leupolds. Also, even though we've been told that the x32 ended up getting issued, I don't think we've ever seen a pic of one in the wild.



I think all the Hollands we've seen have either been the TS-30s that came off of the Mod 0s when they were swapped out or just one-off scopes that were found in the armory and repurposed. So maybe somewhere a NF is sitting on a Holland, but I don't think we've seen that yet.



From an accuracy standpoint, either will do. Both the Leupold and the NF will be plenty powerful and clear for the ranges that the Mk 12 is best at.




 
The Leupold is nice, but I absolutely hate MIL/MOA.



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7/14/2015 9:37:43 PM EDT
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  Darn. Good deal. 1:8 is fine just figured its all 1:7 for legitness.

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Originally Posted By Engineer5:


Originally Posted By HaveBlue83:

this is correct for Mod H, yes? good ops collar profile? EDIT: crap....its 1:8



http://ballisticadvantage.com/16-inch-223-wylde-spr-mid-length-ss-premium-barrel.html  




Not seeing the mention of the OPS contour....



What's wrong with 1:8?


  Darn. Good deal. 1:8 is fine just figured its all 1:7 for legitness.

If you're not gettin' a Douglas(which is legit), the twist rate won't matter.



And 1/8 is perfectly fine.



 
7/14/2015 9:42:11 PM EDT
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  The Leupold is nice, but I absolutely hate MIL/MOA.


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Originally Posted By TinyCrumb:
Originally Posted By Jax_Guns:
Got two builds and two scopes. From an accuracy/seen in wild standpoint would a NF 2.5x32 in a LaRue mount be best on a Holland or a Mod1? I know a NF x24 would be the best choice but they are too much $$.


AFAIK, the NF scopes were only on Navy Mod 1s. As far as I've seen, the only scopes on the USMC Mod 1s and the Army Mod 0 / Hollands have all been the Leupolds. Also, even though we've been told that the x32 ended up getting issued, I don't think we've ever seen a pic of one in the wild.

I think all the Hollands we've seen have either been the TS-30s that came off of the Mod 0s when they were swapped out or just one-off scopes that were found in the armory and repurposed. So maybe somewhere a NF is sitting on a Holland, but I don't think we've seen that yet.

From an accuracy standpoint, either will do. Both the Leupold and the NF will be plenty powerful and clear for the ranges that the Mk 12 is best at.

  The Leupold is nice, but I absolutely hate MIL/MOA.




I've learned to live with MIL/MOA but it's far from ideal.  Leupold is going to be offering the TS-32X1 reticle in the 3.5-10x LR/T soon, i'll be swapping out the Mil-dot I currently have as soon as they are available.

7/14/2015 11:41:31 PM EDT
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I like my H59
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7/15/2015 12:13:15 AM EDT
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I like my H59 <a href="http://smg.photobucket.com/user/ermey/media/CD468B99-DA6F-48BF-9EA6-30641C95BEF1_zpstutuvpef.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v37/ermey/CD468B99-DA6F-48BF-9EA6-30641C95BEF1_zpstutuvpef.jpg</a>
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I do too!

If they offered a Horus in a clone correct scope it would be an easy choice.
7/15/2015 1:53:17 AM EDT
[#26]
I spy a AEM5.... In MY safe....

7/15/2015 2:20:21 AM EDT
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I would normally agree with you … but with the elevation turret being calibrated to the load and using for holdoffs for wind it doesn't matter much.
7/15/2015 3:13:38 AM EDT
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The only thing the JP Silent Capture System captures is your money.





Seriously....why spend ~$100+ to eliminate the "sproing" noise when all it takes is a finger dab of CLP???
I'm going to rebrand some Break Free CLP as "Spring Sound Eliminator 3000", or "SSE 3K" for short. Sell it cheaper than JP for $30 per 3oz bottle and retire before the age of 30.


 
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This.  Even a dab of axel grease or a bead of motor oil does the trick.
7/15/2015 6:49:54 AM EDT
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I would normally agree with you … but with the elevation turret being calibrated to the load and using for holdoffs for wind it doesn't matter much.
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Originally Posted By dangerdan:

  The Leupold is nice, but I absolutely hate MIL/MOA.



I would normally agree with you … but with the elevation turret being calibrated to the load and using for holdoffs for wind it doesn't matter much.




 
Like when you're given a Mk12, and the only ammo they will give you is M855?




I'm not a big stickler for ammo specific scope dials.
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Mk12, Mk13, Mk18, M4 Block II
7/15/2015 8:05:19 AM EDT
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  Like when you're given a Mk12, and the only ammo they will give you is M855?





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Originally Posted By TinyCrumb:


Originally Posted By dangerdan:

  The Leupold is nice, but I absolutely hate MIL/MOA.



I would normally agree with you … but with the elevation turret being calibrated to the load and using for holdoffs for wind it doesn't matter much.


  Like when you're given a Mk12, and the only ammo they will give you is M855?





I'm not a big stickler for ammo specific scope dials.





 
Better go snuggle up to some dudes with beards and shaggy hair. They got all the 262.
http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1604816_Gentle_Propositions____BOOK_IS_LIVE_ON_AMAZON___.html
7/15/2015 8:19:37 AM EDT
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I've learned to live with MIL/MOA but it's far from ideal.  Leupold is going to be offering the TS-32X1 reticle in the 3.5-10x LR/T soon, i'll be swapping out the Mil-dot I currently have as soon as they are available.



http://www.leupold.com/wp-content/uploads/reticle/reticle-140-large.png
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Originally Posted By dangerdan:


Originally Posted By TinyCrumb:


Originally Posted By Jax_Guns:

Got two builds and two scopes. From an accuracy/seen in wild standpoint would a NF 2.5x32 in a LaRue mount be best on a Holland or a Mod1? I know a NF x24 would be the best choice but they are too much $$.




AFAIK, the NF scopes were only on Navy Mod 1s. As far as I've seen, the only scopes on the USMC Mod 1s and the Army Mod 0 / Hollands have all been the Leupolds. Also, even though we've been told that the x32 ended up getting issued, I don't think we've ever seen a pic of one in the wild.



I think all the Hollands we've seen have either been the TS-30s that came off of the Mod 0s when they were swapped out or just one-off scopes that were found in the armory and repurposed. So maybe somewhere a NF is sitting on a Holland, but I don't think we've seen that yet.



From an accuracy standpoint, either will do. Both the Leupold and the NF will be plenty powerful and clear for the ranges that the Mk 12 is best at.


  The Leupold is nice, but I absolutely hate MIL/MOA.









I've learned to live with MIL/MOA but it's far from ideal.  Leupold is going to be offering the TS-32X1 reticle in the 3.5-10x LR/T soon, i'll be swapping out the Mil-dot I currently have as soon as they are available.



http://www.leupold.com/wp-content/uploads/reticle/reticle-140-large.png
If they would put that reticle in my 3-9 mk4 I wouldn't give a damn about having moa turrets.  That being said I do need to check and see if they can overhaul my turrets to give me 1/4 moa adjustments. 1 moa clicks are a pain in my ass

 
7/15/2015 12:48:58 PM EDT
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7/15/2015 1:46:19 PM EDT
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Here is a picture of the Compass Lake site.  I just need to know what chamber type, and what barrel type.  I appreciate all the knowledge you guys are throwing my way!!
7/15/2015 2:00:15 PM EDT
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Here is a picture of the Compass Lake site.  I just need to know what chamber type, and what barrel type.  I appreciate all the knowledge you guys are throwing my way!!
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For a "Spec" Mk12 you'd want the Douglas 1:7. As far as chambers go, the CLE MAtch is a modified 5.56 NATO type chamber that's a bit tighter. OTOH, the Wylde starts from .223 Rem specs and is adjusted to allow 5.56 pressure ammo safely. Mainly, the CLE Match chamber is designed to work better with 80gr match loads for match shooters. You can't go wrong with either.
7/15/2015 2:33:17 PM EDT
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For a "Spec" Mk12 you'd want the Douglas 1:7. As far as chambers go, the CLE MAtch is a modified 5.56 NATO type chamber that's a bit tighter. OTOH, the Wylde starts from .223 Rem specs and is adjusted to allow 5.56 pressure ammo safely. Mainly, the CLE Match chamber is designed to work better with 80gr match loads for match shooters. You can't go wrong with either.
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Originally Posted By OilfieldTrash78:
http://i.imgur.com/kkuatqC.jpg

Here is a picture of the Compass Lake site.  I just need to know what chamber type, and what barrel type.  I appreciate all the knowledge you guys are throwing my way!!


For a "Spec" Mk12 you'd want the Douglas 1:7. As far as chambers go, the CLE MAtch is a modified 5.56 NATO type chamber that's a bit tighter. OTOH, the Wylde starts from .223 Rem specs and is adjusted to allow 5.56 pressure ammo safely. Mainly, the CLE Match chamber is designed to work better with 80gr match loads for match shooters. You can't go wrong with either.


Would the Criterion 7 barrel work also?
7/15/2015 2:56:31 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By OilfieldTrash78:


http://i.imgur.com/kkuatqC.jpg





Here is a picture of the Compass Lake site.  I just need to know what chamber type, and what barrel type.  I appreciate all the knowledge you guys are throwing my way!!






For a "Spec" Mk12 you'd want the Douglas 1:7. As far as chambers go, the CLE MAtch is a modified 5.56 NATO type chamber that's a bit tighter. OTOH, the Wylde starts from .223 Rem specs and is adjusted to allow 5.56 pressure ammo safely. Mainly, the CLE Match chamber is designed to work better with 80gr match loads for match shooters. You can't go wrong with either.






Would the Criterion 7 barrel work also?
Absolutely. I doubt you could see the performance difference between it and the Douglas.





It wouldn't be "spec" by the strictest definition, but they make damn good barrels.





 
7/15/2015 3:05:34 PM EDT
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Barrels are a key part in a firearm. "Spec" or not, buy what has the better quality (steel, machining, rifling, and finishing), and what fits your budget.





Most of what is listed here are good quality barrels. It's up to you if you want to spend $2-300 more for a particular brand name or save thay money to put toward match ammo, or can, or optics, or whatever.


 
If a $500 barrel is a stretch for you, a $275 WOA barrel will suit your needs just great.
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7/15/2015 3:23:01 PM EDT
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Now, for the gas block, will the DD MK12 block work, or should I go with the Badger Ordnance block?
7/15/2015 3:26:07 PM EDT
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Now, for the gas block, will the DD MK12 block work, or should I go with the Badger Ordnance block?
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Uncle
Sam's
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I was cloning before cloning was cool:
Mk12, Mk13, Mk18, M4 Block II
7/15/2015 3:48:08 PM EDT
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Now, for the gas block, will the DD MK12 block work, or should I go with the Badger Ordnance block?

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The Badger blocks have a rep for being very, very snug. I know mine was before I passed it on to Whhood with my KAC rail. The DD I've not heard that issue, so if you want an ultrasnug fittment you could do the Badger off Brownells or wherever and heat it up (but not too much to affect the hardness I guess). Or just go for the DD.
7/15/2015 3:51:05 PM EDT
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I used a PRI GB.
Uncle
Sam's
Misguided
Children

I was cloning before cloning was cool:
Mk12, Mk13, Mk18, M4 Block II
7/15/2015 4:47:38 PM EDT
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The Badger blocks have a rep for being very, very snug. I know mine was before I passed it on to Whhood with my KAC rail. The DD I've not heard that issue, so if you want an ultrasnug fittment you could do the Badger off Brownells or wherever and heat it up (but not too much to affect the hardness I guess). Or just go for the DD.
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Now, for the gas block, will the DD MK12 block work, or should I go with the Badger Ordnance block?

  Pick one


The Badger blocks have a rep for being very, very snug. I know mine was before I passed it on to Whhood with my KAC rail. The DD I've not heard that issue, so if you want an ultrasnug fittment you could do the Badger off Brownells or wherever and heat it up (but not too much to affect the hardness I guess). Or just go for the DD.



Just got done wiggling a DD Mk12 block back and forth for a couple hours to get it to where it needs to go on my Mod 1.   That's after removing material off the inside, too.
7/15/2015 5:00:31 PM EDT
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Hey one thing to not about barrels. I just bought a CLE Douglas in May. Their website lists their SPR barrel as 17.9 inches. Mine is actually 17.75. It says if you want a different length to call their shop. Just sayin. If you want 18 inches, you ought to say something....
7/15/2015 5:27:33 PM EDT
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Finally splurged on a pelican case; went with the 1750.  

7/15/2015 8:37:52 PM EDT
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Just got done wiggling a DD Mk12 block back and forth for a couple hours to get it to where it needs to go on my Mod 1.   That's after removing material off the inside, too.
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Originally Posted By OilfieldTrash78:
Now, for the gas block, will the DD MK12 block work, or should I go with the Badger Ordnance block?

  Pick one


The Badger blocks have a rep for being very, very snug. I know mine was before I passed it on to Whhood with my KAC rail. The DD I've not heard that issue, so if you want an ultrasnug fittment you could do the Badger off Brownells or wherever and heat it up (but not too much to affect the hardness I guess). Or just go for the DD.



Just got done wiggling a DD Mk12 block back and forth for a couple hours to get it to where it needs to go on my Mod 1.   That's after removing material off the inside, too.

Yeah I had to hone the Badger I got from LC to get it on. Go slow and check the fit periodically. I thought of heating it up but it will never come off if you do it that way. A torch may do it but on a stainless barrel that doesn't dissipate heat very well I wouldn't want to try it.
7/15/2015 9:15:44 PM EDT
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Yeah I had to hone the Badger I got from LC to get it on. Go slow and check the fit periodically. I thought of heating it up but it will never come off if you do it that way. A torch may do it but on a stainless barrel that doesn't dissipate heat very well I wouldn't want to try it.
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Originally Posted By OilfieldTrash78:
Now, for the gas block, will the DD MK12 block work, or should I go with the Badger Ordnance block?

  Pick one


The Badger blocks have a rep for being very, very snug. I know mine was before I passed it on to Whhood with my KAC rail. The DD I've not heard that issue, so if you want an ultrasnug fittment you could do the Badger off Brownells or wherever and heat it up (but not too much to affect the hardness I guess). Or just go for the DD.



Just got done wiggling a DD Mk12 block back and forth for a couple hours to get it to where it needs to go on my Mod 1.   That's after removing material off the inside, too.

Yeah I had to hone the Badger I got from LC to get it on. Go slow and check the fit periodically. I thought of heating it up but it will never come off if you do it that way. A torch may do it but on a stainless barrel that doesn't dissipate heat very well I wouldn't want to try it.



I'd be willing to bet that torch wouldn't heat the barrel as much as a quick string of shooting would. I wouldn't sweat needing to warm something to remove if necessary.  Honing should be fine though.
7/15/2015 11:59:11 PM EDT
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Spartanglory11's AEM5 on my Mod 0 tonight... This gun was MADE to have that can on it. Mod ANYTHING without that ops/ae can is just wrong (sorry folks in Commie states it's time to move to the free land)  so much awesomeness:



7/16/2015 12:30:18 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By OilfieldTrash78:
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CLE also makes gas blocks that are to spec, so that's also an option. Got one on my ModH
7/16/2015 12:33:07 AM EDT
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Shitty pic.
7/16/2015 8:56:07 AM EDT
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Sweet you finally got it?

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