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10/26/2014 9:02:09 AM EDT
Mostly tungsten cored armor piercing cutaways

.338 Lapua Mag, head stamp T/338LM, Thun Switz., on side of case was "6916 PS1725", 6.27g tungsten core
.300 Win Mag, head stamp T/338LM, waxed neck, on side of case was "12.7g AP 06-B6", 5.58g tungsten core (same round exists in 7.62 as well)
7.62x51, head stamp 8/070/5, FFV NAMMO Sweden, 5.94g tungsten core, black tip
7.62x51, head stamp T/09, hardened steel penetrator in a gliding metal boot, on side of case "Penetrator 80PS", zinc plated projectile
5.56mm, head stamp, FN/68, Belgium, solid brass projectile with hardened steel core, black tip
5.56mm, head stamp, LM/87, French experimental, 1.04g tungsten core, black tip
5.56mm, head stamp, LM/4-84/5.56 French experimental, .69 tungsten core, black tip
.30 carbine, head stamp FA/45, steel core AP, black tip
Third pic is just the hardened steel cores again, just different lighting.
wolfganggross





10/26/2014 9:05:55 AM EDT
[#1]
God I would love to play arojnd with the 300WinMag load.   Or those bullets in 300RUM.


Knowing what WW2 AP pulls do in 300Win the newer stuff would be awesome.
10/26/2014 11:08:12 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Eric802][Edited] [#2]
I had no idea there was a .30 Carbine AP round. That's a new one to me.  Wonder how effective it was, as there seems to be just a little, not-to-pointy bit of tungsten there.
Will work for TAC.

MOA All Day
10/28/2014 10:25:12 PM EDT
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Thanks
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10/29/2014 7:23:10 AM EDT
[Last Edit: wolfganggross][Edited] [#4]
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Originally Posted By Eric802:
I had no idea there was a .30 Carbine AP round. That's a new one to me.  Wonder how effective it was, as there seems to be just a little, not-to-pointy bit of tungsten there.
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That .30 carbine is just a hardened steel core.  Pretty rare, think I paid $20 for it.  There is 3 different steel cores for the .30 carbine.  Its hard enough just to find one!
The 7.62 - T/09 and the 5.56 from FN/68 are also just hardened steel core.
The tungsten cored penetrators are considered "High Velocity Armor Piercing" since the increased velocity from the tungsten being lighter in weight than steel.  Its about 3 times the strength over hardened steel, but half as dense as depleted uranium.  And just as toxic in powder (dust )form.
The act of combining modern day ceramics and very hard metals, or cerametal, is used to make the tungsten penetrators.  That's where tungsten carbide powder is mixed with a binder and pressed into a "green" shape where it can be than machined into its final shape.  Then its baked in a kiln until completely hardened.
10/29/2014 7:53:42 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Eric802:


I had no idea there was a .30 Carbine AP round. That's a new one to me.  Wonder how effective it was, as there seems to be just a little, not-to-pointy bit of tungsten there.
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same thing i was thinking-I would expect a larger (longer) penetrator



 
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10/31/2014 1:27:33 AM EDT
[#6]
Neat. How on earth did you cut those open so perfectly?
10/31/2014 2:09:58 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By TaylorWSO:
same thing i was thinking-I would expect a larger (longer) penetrator
 
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Originally Posted By TaylorWSO:
Originally Posted By Eric802:
I had no idea there was a .30 Carbine AP round. That's a new one to me.  Wonder how effective it was, as there seems to be just a little, not-to-pointy bit of tungsten there.
same thing i was thinking-I would expect a larger (longer) penetrator
 


Your looking at it backwards.  The 30Carb is a steel core.  The dull spot up top is a little bit of lead and the shiny stuff is steel.
11/6/2014 6:42:47 PM EDT
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Very cool, can I ask where you found the 338 lapua round? I'd love to buy a small case and get some dope on it for a bad rainy day.
11/7/2014 12:48:50 AM EDT
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Where do I buy that 338?
11/7/2014 6:57:02 AM EDT
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The 338 Lapua round came from a cartridge show that happens every year called Saint Louis International Cartridge Show (SLICS).  Next one on April 1-3, hope to see you there!
A collector from Denmark brought over a box of 15(?) and was selling them at $25 each.  He sold out quickly.  I stupidly only picked up a single round, should have bought them all.  Usually at the SLICS show, the problem is too many cartridges and not enough money.  Other than those, I don't think there is that many in the US.
What I did notice is that the brass on the 338 and 300 win mag was very thin and brittle.  The neck on the 300 actually cracked while cutting but hid that in the picture.  Its not like there is a lot of 300 cases floating around from Thun Switz (T) that I could have replaced it with.
11/7/2014 4:03:15 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By baron66:
Neat. How on earth did you cut those open so perfectly?
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You don't Dremel bro?

JK, my friend uses a thin cutoff wheel to do his.  He mounts them on plaques for hunters and sells them.
11/8/2014 7:59:01 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By baron66:
Neat. How on earth did you cut those open so perfectly?
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I was wondering this as well.
So neat and perfect.

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