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Originally Posted By 55Kingpin: This was really good when it debuted....roughly 10 years ago (don't quote me on that timeframe). Anyway, looks like they've dropped the price over the years. For 3-gun competition this was a great option if you didn't want to spend Nightforce, Kahles, or Swarovski money... I think it still has value today for someone looking at a simple option with good glass and build quality. They had a few sponsored shooters as well who gave discount codes out frequently. I think I used one from Jesse Tischauser (sp?)...now that makes me wonder whatever happened to that guy. He was a character. C-more C3 Damn, didn't know C-More made magnified optics! |
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Originally Posted By hodgescl: I like my primary arms special purchase 1-6. They are in and out of stock sometimes on sale for less than 300$. Philippine made For not Chinese, I dig it. I don’t have any nice scopes to compare it to, but shooting steel at 600 with a pencil barrel ar was like having an easy button. Blems are 340$ right now. I bought a couple of these as a hunting optic. Good build quality, light weight, good glass, excellent reticle and priced right. At least a 1/2 a step up from the Chinese made Nova. When compared to the heavier "slept around" Viper PST 2 1-6, the Special Purchase has less field of view and a tighter 6x eye box. Both have very good illumination. |
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Originally Posted By Duck_Hunt: Picked up a lnib Bushnell smrs 1-6.5 btr-2 with t-lok turrets for $300 shipped a few weeks ago. I put it on my kids RAR 5.56 for hunting and range purposes. The glass, reticle and ZS turrets are phenomenal. I have one that has phenomenal glass. Better than a Razor or anything else ive used in the under $2k MSRP range. However, the dot is too dim to use it like a RDS on 1x. For a hunting scope where super quick CQC style shooting is not expected, it would be great. I think i paid $6-700 for it when eurooptic was blowing them out. You got a great deal for $300. |
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Originally Posted By Bravo_Six: I have one that has phenomenal glass. Better than a Razor or anything else ive used in the under $2k MSRP range. However, the dot is too dim to use it like a RDS on 1x. For a hunting scope where super quick CQC style shooting is not expected, it would be great. I think i paid $6-700 for it when eurooptic was blowing them out. You got a great deal for $300. Originally Posted By Bravo_Six: Originally Posted By Duck_Hunt: Picked up a lnib Bushnell smrs 1-6.5 btr-2 with t-lok turrets for $300 shipped a few weeks ago. I put it on my kids RAR 5.56 for hunting and range purposes. The glass, reticle and ZS turrets are phenomenal. I have one that has phenomenal glass. Better than a Razor or anything else ive used in the under $2k MSRP range. However, the dot is too dim to use it like a RDS on 1x. For a hunting scope where super quick CQC style shooting is not expected, it would be great. I think i paid $6-700 for it when eurooptic was blowing them out. You got a great deal for $300. I agree - the glass is incredible. The illumination does leave a lot to be desired and is really the only negative other than it no longer being in production. I will say the horseshoe around the dot does a great job of drawing your eye in. |
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Originally Posted By Duck_Hunt: I agree - the glass is incredible. The illumination does leave a lot to be desired and is really the only negative other than it no longer being in production. I will say the horseshoe around the dot does a great job of drawing your eye in. Originally Posted By Duck_Hunt: Originally Posted By Bravo_Six: Originally Posted By Duck_Hunt: Picked up a lnib Bushnell smrs 1-6.5 btr-2 with t-lok turrets for $300 shipped a few weeks ago. I put it on my kids RAR 5.56 for hunting and range purposes. The glass, reticle and ZS turrets are phenomenal. I have one that has phenomenal glass. Better than a Razor or anything else ive used in the under $2k MSRP range. However, the dot is too dim to use it like a RDS on 1x. For a hunting scope where super quick CQC style shooting is not expected, it would be great. I think i paid $6-700 for it when eurooptic was blowing them out. You got a great deal for $300. I agree - the glass is incredible. The illumination does leave a lot to be desired and is really the only negative other than it no longer being in production. I will say the horseshoe around the dot does a great job of drawing your eye in. I have one of the small capped turret ones and I'm a fan. Have a razor 1-6 as well and it's interesting that I'm not the only one that thinks the bushy glass is as good or better. The razor wins on eyebox and illumination for sure but the bushy is noticeably lighter and smaller. Imo the smrs really shines with a 12 o'clock dot. I'd have to say the bushy does the best clip on image of lpvo I've tried as well. |
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Originally Posted By GreenMushroom: I have one of the small capped turret ones and I'm a fan. Have a razor 1-6 as well and it's interesting that I'm not the only one that thinks the bushy glass is as good or better. The razor wins on eyebox and illumination for sure but the bushy is noticeably lighter and smaller. Imo the smrs really shines with a 12 o'clock dot. I'd have to say the bushy does the best clip on image of lpvo I've tried as well. Good info from both of you guys on these, thanks! |
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As far as Chicom/Budget stuff: The new Vortex Crossfire HD line kinda impressed me. Makes the crossfire 2 look like garbage in comparison. Probably one of the better Scout Scopes out there in 2026, and their 1-4 scope isn't bad at all. The Hawke 1-4x20 LVPO with Fiber Red Dot is a great replacement for the discontinued VX-Freedom 1.5-4X20 Illum. FireDot MOA-Ring. If you are looking for something light/low profile. Great pick for a lever gun/PCC. Eye Relief/Eyebox is super forgiving. Glass looks great too. I just tossed one on a PC Carbine. It is definitely red dot bright. I also picked up a couple no name LVPOs off of Amazon for some budget rifles, and was impressed. Great Eye Relief/Forgiving Eye Box/Great Glass and Daylight Bright for $80? What the shit lol. Not bad for a M&P 15-22 or something. No issues on a 5.56 rifle, but I wouldn't trust it for anything bigger. The brand was Aimsharp. It's only a 1-4 but I honestly like these scopes better than my two PA ACSS Nova 1-6. Adjustments are pretty tactile as well. Oddly enough they are just as bright. Simple hunting reticle without BDC though. The RT6 is still great though imo. I'd rather buy non China if I can help it. |
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Originally Posted By bluedog82: Athlon is coming out with a Japanese version of their Ares 1-10 and I should be getting one for review when they’re available. Looking forward to that one, hoping I can get in a Stryker 1-10 to compare. Athlon has some scopes that hit well above their weight class. Their Helos 2-12 and 4-20 compare closer to 600-700 scopes, their ETRs are closer to the 1000-1200 price range quality wise, and I like my Cronus as much or more than a Gen 2 razor |
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Originally Posted By doty_soty: Athlon has some scopes that hit well above their weight class. Their Helos 2-12 and 4-20 compare closer to 600-700 scopes, their ETRs are closer to the 1000-1200 price range quality wise, and I like my Cronus as much or more than a Gen 2 razor Yup, they make good stuff. I like their 2.5-15 a lot (and they just came out with a Jap version of that), just wish it had locking turrets and a little bit brighter illumination. |
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Originally Posted By Duck_Hunt: Picked up a lnib Bushnell smrs 1-6.5 btr-2 with t-lok turrets for $300 shipped a few weeks ago. I put it on my kids RAR 5.56 for hunting and range purposes. The glass, reticle and ZS turrets are phenomenal. I have the 1-8.5X and agree, phenomenal glass for the money- which I think I paid $680. Every bit as good as a Vortex that cost almost twice as much. ETA: The old Burris XTR 1-4X has good glass as well, just not a big fan of Ballistic reticles. For $200 used, it works well for the purpose. |
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Originally Posted By Duck_Hunt: For those in the market the RT-6 is currently $199 on Amazon. Great price, thanks for sharing! |
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The Leupold Mk3HD. People look past them because of the 1.25-1.5X. The VXR is oddly still highly regarded, but the Mk3 is basically a VXR with better glass, reticle, and a throw lever. If you’re looking across your apartment, yeah 1.5X sucks. In real shooting it’s barely noticeable, especially when the Mk3 has the biggest exit pupil of any LPVO. (Almost the same as a T2.) With the thin ocular bezel, it’s a very solid optic. Only downside is the shitty turrets but get the BDC variant anyway. |
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Originally Posted By -OdieGreen-: The Leupold Mk3HD. People look past them because of the 1.25-1.5X. The VXR is oddly still highly regarded, but the Mk3 is basically a VXR with better glass, reticle, and a throw lever. If you’re looking across your apartment, yeah 1.5X sucks. In real shooting it’s barely noticeable, especially when the Mk3 has the biggest exit pupil of any LPVO. (Almost the same as a T2.) With the thin ocular bezel, it’s a very solid optic. Only downside is the shitty turrets but get the BDC variant anyway. Good to know, never used one. |
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Originally Posted By Duck_Hunt: Bushnell (LOW) made some really good optics back some years ago. The LRTS and LRHS scopes are great as well. Originally Posted By Duck_Hunt: Originally Posted By bluedog82: Originally Posted By Duck_Hunt: Picked up a lnib Bushnell smrs 1-6.5 btr-2 with t-lok turrets for $300 shipped a few weeks ago. I put it on my kids RAR 5.56 for hunting and range purposes. The glass, reticle and ZS turrets are phenomenal. Now this is what I’m talking about. Never even heard of this scope! Bushnell (LOW) made some really good optics back some years ago. The LRTS and LRHS scopes are great as well. LRTS and LRHS were some great f’n scopes. Still are, but especially at their prices back then. |
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Originally Posted By TBone556: Trijicon credo 1-6 sfp red bdc. Nobody ever care about it because it’s sfp and people seem to only care about sfp 1-6 if it’s the razor 1-6 or the primary arms slx nova. The credo has a better reticle and is plenty bright but way lighter and more affordable than a razor with the same quality glass. I'm on my second Credo HX 1-6 with the hunter hold reticle(sold the first one to try something different and it was the 7.62 version instead of the 5.56) and they are nice. glass is pretty good even at 6x, the 1x is not a true 1x IMO but so close that during normal shooting you won't notice the slight magnification and the illumination is nuclear bright. My only complaint is the holdover marks on the reticle are too big and cover up a bunch of the target past past 250-300yds. I guess you really can't fault the optic because it is listed as a hunter reticle which it is more than adequate for, but I would rather they have used a thinner post with dots for the hold over. |
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Relevant thread.. I don't need anything expensive, because it'll sit in the safe far too much. Looking at the PA SP nova, vortex Venom, and the regular PA Nova. Going to toss it on a suppressed 12.5 build. |
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Originally Posted By laxman09: Relevant thread.. I don't need anything expensive, because it'll sit in the safe far too much. Looking at the PA SP nova, vortex Venom, and the regular PA Nova. Going to toss it on a suppressed 12.5 build. I have an SP Nova, awesome optic for $200. What’s the price now? If it’s not too far off the regular Nova I’d probably just do that unless you’re on a really tight budget. |
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Originally Posted By bluedog82: I have an SP Nova, awesome optic for $200. What’s the price now? If it’s not too far off the regular Nova I’d probably just do that unless you’re on a really tight budget. Current price is about $300 with QP price. But also has "$50 in primary arms cash" |
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Originally Posted By bluedog82: Depends on if glass quality or super bright illumination is more important to you then. Mine gets fairly bright but not red dot bright. Well the bonus bucks are gone now  Yeah, its not going to be a hard use gun, but I do want it to work well in case its needed. I think with the bonus bucks being gone Ill just hold off or look for one on new GAFS. |
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Originally Posted By bluedog82: Athlon is coming out with a Japanese version of their Ares 1-10 and I should be getting one for review when they’re available. Looking forward to that one, hoping I can get in a Stryker 1-10 to compare. Interested to see the review of these, especially the Vortex. Only reviews available right now are the usual shills. Never mind I was referring to the strike eagle 1-10x. |
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Originally Posted By gman556: Interested to see the review of these, especially the Vortex. Only reviews available right now are the usual shills. Never mind I was referring to the strike eagle 1-10x. I’d like to test one of those for sure, but since losing the YouTube side of my channel it’s much harder to get companies that I haven’t worked with in the past on board. |
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Originally Posted By bluedog82: I’d like to test one of those for sure, but since losing the YouTube side of my channel it’s much harder to get companies that I haven’t worked with in the past on board. Originally Posted By bluedog82: Originally Posted By gman556: Interested to see the review of these, especially the Vortex. Only reviews available right now are the usual shills. Never mind I was referring to the strike eagle 1-10x. I’d like to test one of those for sure, but since losing the YouTube side of my channel it’s much harder to get companies that I haven’t worked with in the past on board. Understood, well definitely let us know how you like the Jap version of Athlon 1-10. |
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I'm prob gonna get shit for this because no one trusts anything under $1000 on this website but the two best budget LPVO I've had recently are the Vortex Venom 1-6 and Vector Tauron FFP 1-6. I ended up selling the Venom and kept the Vector. I also had a Vector Continental 1-6 on C_Does youtuber recommendation (yes I also started the vector review thread) but I sold it and kept the Tauron for my budget trash can 14.5 build and it's surprised the hell out of me. I took it out to 500yds recently and the glass quality was phenomenal. Has its downsides but for $150 after coupons its very slept on and absolutely not an airsoft/amazon special. |
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Vector Continental. The glass quality on 1x for a scope at its price range is crazy. It honestly matches up with scopes that cost much more on 1x. Oh and the turrets are the locking ones that pop up and down, and they work great. And daylight bright illumination. Worst part about it is the eyebox is kind of narrow. And the fixed parallax is focused for closer distances. The 6x isn't as good as the 1x but still pretty dang impressive for what it is. They claim german glass and manufactured in china. You can score these scopes for like 250 bucks. The illumination looks suspiciously similiar to the PA Nova. Maybe made in the same factory. Who knows. Attached File Attached File I have one on my 22. |
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Originally Posted By laxman09: Relevant thread.. I don't need anything expensive, because it'll sit in the safe far too much. Looking at the PA SP nova, vortex Venom, and the regular PA Nova. Going to toss it on a suppressed 12.5 build. Same boat, I went Vortex Venom because the bdc reticle is more useful for my 300 yard pinker. Eyebox is real tight on 6x. |
| I had the EOTech 1-10x red dot bright SR5 reticle and the view had too much distortion and the eyebox was the tightest I have seen in a long time. Mine had a defect in the lit-reticle and was returned but I am going with the Nightforce NX6 2-12x FFP. I like the turret setup, glass and size. |
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Originally Posted By CavScout: I had the EOTech 1-10x red dot bright SR5 reticle and the view had too much distortion and the eyebox was the tightest I have seen in a long time. Mine had a defect in the lit-reticle and was returned but I am going with the Nightforce NX6 2-12x FFP. I like the turret setup, glass and size. Those look great, really interested to see how the PLX 1.5-12s are too. |
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Originally Posted By laxman09: Goty PA SP Nova today. Really really nice scope! No issues with reticle brightness at all. I was dead set on a Viper PST, but for $200 more, I can't imagine it's worth it. Mine arrived on Friday. The SP I got awhile back had a chevron reticle instead of the dot and crosshairs. |
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Originally Posted By Moondog: You're correct. It's an Aurora model, same housing and turret controls. It's also a Special Purchase run/model. I like the optional turret knob with external markings Yup, those are a nice feature. I use the capped on my SP, and the uncapped on the PLX-C. The turrets don’t lock, but they’re so low profile I’ve never had them bumped. |
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Originally Posted By bluedog82: Those are recommended here quite a bit but I agree that they’re less known in the gun community at large. Originally Posted By bluedog82: Originally Posted By KeepTheChnge: Pretty impressed with my burrist rt-6 1-6x I got for $260. Those are recommended here quite a bit but I agree that they’re less known in the gun community at large. On the basis of the comments in this thread, I just bought a Burris 1-6 this afternoon. EDITED: I also picked up a Vortex Venom 1-6 over a month ago. I'll put the two 1-6 scopes on my 13.7" builds. I'm still going to stick a couple of LPVO scopes on my two completed 18" bullet hose, FRT, builds. But I decided to build two more, higher accuracy 18" guns. I have moved mentally toward getting two higher power scopes for my 3rd and 4th 18" builds. I decided to go with Criterion barrels and want suitable, fitting, scopes for them. Oh, I also stuck an Aimpoint Pro in a LaRue mount on a 12.5" FRT bullet hose. |
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Originally Posted By viator: On the basis of the comments in this thread, I just bought a Burris 1-6 this afternoon. EDITED: I also picked up a Vortex Venom 1-6 over a month ago. I'll put the two 1-6 scopes on my 13.7" builds. I'm still going to stick a couple of LPVO scopes on my two completed 18" bullet hose, FRT, builds. But I decided to build two more, higher accuracy 18" guns. I have moved mentally toward getting two higher power scopes for my 3rd and 4th 18" builds. I decided to go with Criterion barrels and want suitable, fitting, scopes for them. Oh, I also stuck an Aimpoint Pro in a LaRue mount on a 12.5" FRT bullet hose. Nice, glad this thread was able to help! |
| I have the C-More C3 and a Vortex PST in 1-6x. These are for 3 gun and I like the simple reticle and lighted dot. I like the glass on both of these. My vision struggles at 600yds. I really would like a 1-10x like the Vortex Razor but for the few long range matches I do the $2500 is a bit too much. |
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Originally Posted By dogtired: I have the C-More C3 and a Vortex PST in 1-6x. These are for 3 gun and I like the simple reticle and lighted dot. I like the glass on both of these. My vision struggles at 600yds. I really would like a 1-10x like the Vortex Razor but for the few long range matches I do the $2500 is a bit too much. I was supposed to get the Ares 1-10 for review, but while they were waiting for them to come back in stock, my point of contact left the company. So hopefully I can still get through to a new person and test one out. |
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Originally Posted By FoxValleyTacDriver: Vector Continental. The glass quality on 1x for a scope at its price range is crazy. It honestly matches up with scopes that cost much more on 1x. Oh and the turrets are the locking ones that pop up and down, and they work great. And daylight bright illumination. Worst part about it is the eyebox is kind of narrow. And the fixed parallax is focused for closer distances. The 6x isn't as good as the 1x but still pretty dang impressive for what it is. They claim german glass and manufactured in china. You can score these scopes for like 250 bucks. The illumination looks suspiciously similiar to the PA Nova. Maybe made in the same factory. Who knows. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/285899/1000047041_jpg-3745338.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/285899/1000047042_jpg-3745339.JPG I have one on my 22. +1. I have the Continental 2-12×44 & 1-8×24 they both have german schott glass. I like it better than my vortex vipers 1-4 1-6×24. |
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