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9/30/2013 10:33:39 AM EDT
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Are any of you guys running A1 uppers with F-marked front sight bases? I know it's not technically "correct," but it's also not as bad as running a flat-top with an A2 FSB.

With an A1 and F-FSB, you just lower your front sight post a little, yes? So for those who do it, is the sight picture annoying as hell, or is it not very noticeable when zeroed?
9/30/2013 10:55:09 AM EDT
[#2]
My front sight post needed to be lowered a rotation or two. It is not noticeable when shooting.
Don't be so open-minded that your brains fall out.

General education should not be mere training of the hands to work, but training of the mind to properly reason. http://www.welltrainedmind.com/classed.php
10/11/2013 12:24:50 AM EDT
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10/11/2013 7:08:11 AM EDT
[#4]
Very nice!
Don't be so open-minded that your brains fall out.

General education should not be mere training of the hands to work, but training of the mind to properly reason. http://www.welltrainedmind.com/classed.php
10/12/2013 2:56:30 PM EDT
[Last Edit: JJREA][Edited] [#5]


I just noticed the OP said "non military".  Sorry, I can take the pic down if you want, but it's still a nice A1 carbine.
10/12/2013 9:32:34 PM EDT
[#7]

I was surprised to see this old piece in use with a local agency while we were at a shoot together. They are really making the most of what they have. Aparrently, the M16 and the Aimpoint with mount were freebies from the government.
10/18/2013 12:06:27 AM EDT
[#8]
I don't have an A1 clone, but I just put a Cav Arms C-1 stock on my M&P 15, and love it.  I think the A1 stock length is perfect.
10/18/2013 1:22:49 AM EDT
[#9]
To The Lost

NRA Member

Never pick a fight with seven men if all you are packing is a six gun.
10/18/2013 4:36:56 PM EDT
[#10]
10/18/2013 5:58:30 PM EDT
[#11]
Make My Day “Punk”…Pull My Finger
10/18/2013 6:02:45 PM EDT
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I like it a lot but it's not an A1.
I'm fluent in three languages: English, sarcasm and profanity.

He looked around, and death was standing behind him, who said, "Follow me. The hour of your departure from this world has come."
10/26/2013 9:29:13 PM EDT
[Last Edit: ankratz][Edited] [#13]
I mocked this up last night just for you guys

Bushmaster A1 on a Noveske 16" N4, Noveske lower/guts
Weight in at 6 pounds 4 ounces unloaded.



Note the modified A2 aperature:


10/26/2013 9:37:14 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Combat_Jack][Edited] [#14]
I have a McKay 20" A1 barrel ordered, it will go with a 604 upper and a Centurion Arms CMR rail. Anticipating a rifle in the 7 pound range.
“All the time you spend tryin to get back what's been took from you there's more goin out the door. After a while you just try and get a tourniquet on it.” Cormac McCarthy
10/27/2013 8:33:35 AM EDT
[#15]
Look closely at this gun. Humor aside, I want one of these.




10/27/2013 8:55:59 AM EDT
[#16]
That is a win on every level!
Don't be so open-minded that your brains fall out.

General education should not be mere training of the hands to work, but training of the mind to properly reason. http://www.welltrainedmind.com/classed.php
10/27/2013 9:30:11 AM EDT
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Look closely at this gun. Humor aside, I want one of these.
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Nice. Looks Israeli.
10/27/2013 10:28:40 AM EDT
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10/27/2013 10:43:00 AM EDT
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Nice. Looks Israeli.
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Originally Posted By Lancelot:
Look closely at this gun. Humor aside, I want one of these.


Nice. Looks Israeli.


It's a Bushmaster E2S A1
Originally Posted By Tom-from-Michigan:
I have fired my rifles in the rain, but that is not the same as firing one after rising out of the water.
10/27/2013 12:52:06 PM EDT
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That an HK mag?
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That an HK mag?


Yep


10/27/2013 1:20:12 PM EDT
[#21]




Fulton Armory slickside upper receiver
Del-Ton 1/9 medcon barrel
Stag telestock

I really need to update that picture.
10/27/2013 1:57:32 PM EDT
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I have 2 just like this ! One is 1/12 the other is a 1/7.
11/30/2013 9:22:27 AM EDT
[#23]
XM177E2+C7=XM177E7


11/30/2013 10:04:13 AM EDT
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http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p313/madcatjoe/IMG_20131004_130704_694_zps5d212336.jpg

I was surprised to see this old piece in use with a local agency while we were at a shoot together. They are really making the most of what they have. Aparrently, the M16 and the Aimpoint with mount were freebies from the government.
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Except for the potential length handicap in close-quarters, there isn't a bloody thing wrong with that rifle IMHO.



Absolutely gorgeous, and functional to boot.
Impulse control: it separates men from children and criminals.
1/7/2014 11:36:19 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By MRW:
My front sight post needed to be lowered a rotation or two. It is not noticeable when shooting.
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Wanted to bring this thread back to the top, and I have a minor problem.

I recently put together an A1 Mid-Length inspired by this thread.  In fact, it's identical to the rifle posted by noob5000000 on page 1.  The upper is an A1C7-type from the EE, with a Del-Ton lightweight 1/9 chrome lined 16" barrel (F-marked FSB), and RRA tapered handguards, on a PSA blem lower with PSA LPK and Fulton Armory A1 stock kit.  Shot it for the first time today, and despite bottoming the front sight post all the way into the drum, couldn't get the bullet impact closer than 6" low at 25yds.  So, short of replacing the FSB, I guess I'll file the sight post down a little, or try to find a shorter post.  Good thing is that it seems to be reasonably accurate, and responded well to sight adjustment until I ran out of downward travel on the post.  All that said to say that mine is apparently one that won't zero by just dropping the post a couple of rotations.

I really like how the rifle handles, much more so than my old SP-1 or the M16A1 that I was issued many years ago.

SS
1/7/2014 11:49:55 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By ankratz:
I mocked this up last night just for you guys

Bushmaster A1 on a Noveske 16" N4, Noveske lower/guts
Weight in at 6 pounds 4 ounces unloaded.

<a href="http://s6.photobucket.com/user/akratz/media/IMG_20131025_230244_zps5a4caceb.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y229/akratz/IMG_20131025_230244_zps5a4caceb.jpg</a>

Note the modified A2 aperature:
<a href="http://s6.photobucket.com/user/akratz/media/IMG_20131025_230339_668_zps34bbba55.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y229/akratz/IMG_20131025_230339_668_zps34bbba55.jpg</a>

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I'd love you long time if you put an Aimpoint T1 on the rail right in front of the carry handle so I could see what it looked like
Originally Posted By Tom-from-Michigan:
I have fired my rifles in the rain, but that is not the same as firing one after rising out of the water.
1/8/2014 1:24:08 AM EDT
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I'd love you long time if you put an Aimpoint T1 on the rail right in front of the carry handle so I could see what it looked like
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Originally Posted By Lumpy196:
Originally Posted By ankratz:
I mocked this up last night just for you guys

Bushmaster A1 on a Noveske 16" N4, Noveske lower/guts
Weight in at 6 pounds 4 ounces unloaded.

<a href="http://s6.photobucket.com/user/akratz/media/IMG_20131025_230244_zps5a4caceb.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y229/akratz/IMG_20131025_230244_zps5a4caceb.jpg</a>

Note the modified A2 aperature:
<a href="http://s6.photobucket.com/user/akratz/media/IMG_20131025_230339_668_zps34bbba55.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y229/akratz/IMG_20131025_230339_668_zps34bbba55.jpg</a>

<a href="http://s6.photobucket.com/user/akratz/media/IMG_20131025_230453_311_zps2fbcf41c.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y229/akratz/IMG_20131025_230453_311_zps2fbcf41c.jpg</a>


I'd love you long time if you put an Aimpoint T1 on the rail right in front of the carry handle so I could see what it looked like


Sorry buddy :) I sold the A1 a few months ago.
3/18/2014 6:10:54 PM EDT
[#28]
I really like this thread! Now I don't feel so left out when I keep my modern A1 middy simple.
I was talking to my son, who has a AR piston system, and a single-point sling, etc, and said "Why not keep it the way it is? I'm retired, the chances of me having to do a building search again, are pretty slim. And if I had to, I can still use my A1 irons, like I did with my LEO carbine in the old days."
3/19/2014 1:29:57 PM EDT
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3/19/2014 3:45:41 PM EDT
[#30]
I love the purple upper.  I have one of those
Don't be so open-minded that your brains fall out.

General education should not be mere training of the hands to work, but training of the mind to properly reason. http://www.welltrainedmind.com/classed.php
3/19/2014 5:15:42 PM EDT
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I love the purple upper.  I have one of those
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I guess it is kinda purple-ish now that you pointed that out.
3/19/2014 10:12:22 PM EDT
[#32]
Just a lame bedroom shot.

3/21/2014 12:21:29 AM EDT
[#33]
DPMS receivers, AIM Stainless LPK, BCM BCG, stock from Essential arms barrel from EBR Barrels, 14.5 w/pinned extended flash hider, 1/7 Chrome lined mil spec alloy.  Wish I had built it with a light weight barrel.



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George Washington
4/10/2014 5:15:06 PM EDT
[#34]
Anyone know a good source for a complete upper?
5/29/2014 5:21:55 PM EDT
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5/29/2014 8:18:06 PM EDT
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Here's my contribution. It was really cutting-edge--almost 20 years ago when I put it together.

It's an SP1 with an SSK carry-handle conversion, UltraDot sight, and a Colt M4 front end. I got a lot of ribbing from the guys about the RDS until they tried it. This was way before red dots became de rigueur.

Other equipment includes a Duckbill PG, Vortex FH, GG&G Sling Thing, and a GG&G rail under the M4 handguards. The mag is a Sterling 40.



And a close-up of the conversion. SSK did it specifically with this sight in mind.




6/1/2014 8:03:33 PM EDT
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Colt Model 604 upper on a New Frontier Lower. Metal lower in bound.












Soon, it'll have a small optic on top of the carry handle.


 
Reformed Arfcom citizen through the brutal teachings of NorCal LEO and the forgiveness of the Penguin, Aimless.
6/1/2014 8:10:01 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Strela:
Here's my contribution. It was really cutting-edge--almost 20 years ago when I put it together.

It's an SP1 with an SSK carry-handle conversion, UltraDot sight, and a Colt M4 front end. I got a lot of ribbing from the guys about the RDS until they tried it. This was way before red dots became de rigueur.

Other equipment includes a Duckbill PG, Vortex FH, GG&G Sling Thing, and a GG&G rail under the M4 handguards. The mag is a Sterling 40.

http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj105/strela_photos/SP1hzright2.jpg

And a close-up of the conversion. SSK did it specifically with this sight in mind.

http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj105/strela_photos/SP1hzlftcu.jpg


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With the carry handle cut away, how did you fasten the red dot to that upper without a rail?
6/1/2014 8:53:25 PM EDT
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6/2/2014 9:23:35 AM EDT
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With the carry handle cut away, how did you fasten the red dot to that upper without a rail?
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Originally Posted By MikeE23666:
Originally Posted By Strela:
Here's my contribution. It was really cutting-edge--almost 20 years ago when I put it together.

It's an SP1 with an SSK carry-handle conversion, UltraDot sight, and a Colt M4 front end. I got a lot of ribbing from the guys about the RDS until they tried it. This was way before red dots became de rigueur.

Other equipment includes a Duckbill PG, Vortex FH, GG&G Sling Thing, and a GG&G rail under the M4 handguards. The mag is a Sterling 40.

http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj105/strela_photos/SP1hzright2.jpg

And a close-up of the conversion. SSK did it specifically with this sight in mind.

http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj105/strela_photos/SP1hzlftcu.jpg





With the carry handle cut away, how did you fasten the red dot to that upper without a rail?


Look at the second photo.
6/19/2014 9:27:55 AM EDT
[#41]

Bottom one with the A1 stock is the newest.
Kinda wanting to put  an M4 type stock on it.
6/19/2014 9:56:46 AM EDT
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Bottom one with the A1 stock is the newest.
Kinda wanting to put  an M4 type stock on it.
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What AR .22 kit is that in the middle? Never seen a kit that runs off S&W M&P .22 mags.

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6/19/2014 10:05:30 AM EDT
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What AR .22 kit is that in the middle? Never seen a kit that runs off S&W M&P .22 mags.

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Bottom one with the A1 stock is the newest.
Kinda wanting to put  an M4 type stock on it.


What AR .22 kit is that in the middle? Never seen a kit that runs off S&W M&P .22 mags.

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It is a 9mm colt upper with a taccom M4 barrel.
CMMG .22 stainless kit with taccom collar.
Mags are S&W m&p 15/22. I'm using the boonie packer better mag adapter to make them fit properly.
It also reliably activates the stock bolt catch on the last round.
Lower is all PSA.
6/19/2014 10:43:33 AM EDT
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6/19/2014 12:09:21 PM EDT
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For those of you running mid-lengths,

Did you have any problems zeroing if using a barrel with an F height FSB?

I am currently building an A1 mid-length and this is my first venture into middy’s. I’d rather not have to bury my front sight into the FSB to get a zero if I can avoid it. If a standard height FSB works better with this combination I’ll go that route.

Experiences good or bad are welcome,

Wpns Man
6/19/2014 12:16:11 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By WpnsMan:
For those of you running mid-lengths,

Did you have any problems zeroing if using a barrel with an F height FSB?

I am currently building an A1 mid-length and this is my first venture into middy’s. I’d rather not have to bury my front sight into the FSB to get a zero if I can avoid it. If a standard height FSB works better with this combination I’ll go that route.

Experiences good or bad are welcome,

Wpns Man
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Fwiw, ran 1 middy(Del-ton LW 16") with a flat top with no issues. Tthe above A1 and SP1 uppers both have  F marked 14.5 and 16" barrels with no issues. Yes the post ran down somewhat, but theres still some adjustment left on both.  
6/20/2014 7:28:07 AM EDT
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Thanks,

Anyone else?
7/23/2014 7:34:26 PM EDT
[Last Edit: RH33][Edited] [#48]
I've posted some of these pix before, but since Windham Weaponry is considering offering "A1/C7" uppers and complete builds I thought this would be a good bump. Please stop by the Industry form and let Erik / Windham Weaponry know if you're interested.

ETA: Windham Weaponry Link http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_2_489/251709_C7_Style_Upper_Receivers.html

-Ray









So, when was the last time you were ambushed by a group of insurgents?
7/28/2014 11:11:44 PM EDT
[#49]
Originally Posted By Tom-from-Michigan:
I have fired my rifles in the rain, but that is not the same as firing one after rising out of the water.
7/30/2014 12:58:53 PM EDT
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