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3/7/2024 9:46:50 PM EDT
If I have a red dotted 11.5 AR, for close and fast work, would it be stupid to have my bolt action have the same length barrel to match its ballistics ?
An idea has been pecking at me about this, yes velocity is king, why not leave it long as I have the short AR..
I like the idea of matching ballistics even though the bolt action would be meant for longer ranges (300 yards max) scoped and better accuracy is mainly the use for it, add a suppressor (pinned and welded for one tax stamp) and it's no longer than the factory setup , Ruger American Ranch 5.56 .
Stupid idea ?
3/7/2024 9:55:26 PM EDT
[Last Edit: s4s4u][Edited] [#1]
Originally Posted By Southerncomfort32344:
If I have a red dotted 11.5 AR, for close and fast work, would it be stupid to have my bolt action have the same length barrel to match its ballistics ?
An idea has been pecking at me about this, yes velocity is king, why not leave it long as I have the short AR..
I like the idea of matching ballistics even though the bolt action would be meant for longer ranges (300 yards max) scoped and better accuracy is mainly the use for it, add a suppressor (pinned and welded for one tax stamp) and it's no longer than the factory setup , Ruger American Ranch 5.56 .
Stupid idea ?
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Let's unpack this a little?  

If you are going to P/W a suppressor to make 16, I am down with the short barrel.

But, if the bolt gun is not going to be permanently suppressed it doesn't make much sense to diminish downrange performance to match close range trajectory of another weapon, especially if the optics aren't going to be similar.
3/8/2024 11:26:38 AM EDT
[#2]
5.56?

You are overthinking it.  Leave the bolt action longer.
3/8/2024 11:48:06 AM EDT
[#3]
Yeah with the suppressor permanently attached it would keep it from being overly long, and the "idea" of having the same ballistic trajectory is nice and simple. But most likely over thinking it. Just wanted to toss the idea.
10/10/2024 11:37:52 PM EDT
[#4]
Filling out a form 1... going for it, 11.5 sbr... short reflex on an AB Raptor suppressor. Not P-W on.. but will always be used with it.
Longest shot I'm able is just over 200 yards where I'm at so 11.5 is plenty. Took a coyote at 130 yards with the AR and the 60gr V-Max came apart and made a mess inside. So I know it has plenty of velocity still.
10/10/2024 11:53:50 PM EDT
[Last Edit: WUPHF][Edited] [#5]
If they had the same optic, maybe….

A standard (non-BDC) RDS has no way to compensate for trajectory in the first place outside of adjusting your zero and then holding over  at distances where necessary.  You state the bolt action will have a traditional scope, presumably with a graduated reticle, used to hold over your target at a precise point to compensate for drop.

In this scenario, both guns having similar trajectories means nothing, because the way you use those guns with different sighting systems by definition will have to be different.

Think of it like this.  You get the velocity for your preferred load out of the bolt action, true everything at the range, and figured out you need to hold or dial 1.5 mils to hit your target at 200yds.  Now go grab your RDS equipped rifle and hold 1.5 mils…….    You can’t.  Both guns having similar trajectories means nothing in practical application.

That said, for a max of 200 yards, I don’t think you’re really handicapping yourself, so rock on.
10/12/2024 1:50:06 PM EDT
[#6]
Personally I think it makes no sense, but if you like it, then more power to you.
10/12/2024 3:35:18 PM EDT
[#7]
I don't know if your reasoning is all that valid, but a suppressed 11.5 bolt gun sounds cool. I say sent it and post pictures

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