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6/28/2025 11:29:12 PM EDT
[#1]
@combat_diver do you know about what time frame the KAC rail QD, and 2-600m rear sight become part of the sopmod for usasoc?

Looking at block II around the 2010-2014 time frame, and trying to decide between the cqd mounts vs kac qd, and which rear sight
6/28/2025 11:29:44 PM EDT
[#2]
@combat_diver do you know about what time frame the KAC rail QD, and 2-600m rear sight become part of the sopmod for usasoc?

Looking at block II around the 2010-2014 time frame, and trying to decide between the cqd mounts vs kac qd, and which rear sight
6/29/2025 2:02:27 AM EDT
[#3]
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Iraq: 91,03,04,05,06,08,09,15,16,22,23,24&25'
Afghanistan: 09,10,11,14,17,18,19,20&21'
6/29/2025 2:02:48 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Combat_Diver][Edited] [#4]
From what I've seen sometime 2014-2017 on the sling mounts.  Bit earlier on the 2-600m sight.
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Iraq: 91,03,04,05,06,08,09,15,16,22,23,24&25'
Afghanistan: 09,10,11,14,17,18,19,20&21'
7/2/2025 7:54:18 PM EDT
[Last Edit: ChemTrailZ][Edited] [#5]
Does anyone know what rear sling plate this is?Attached File


NM identified as Blackhawk/crosstac

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So changing my question to, anyone able to identify this safety? Screw location indicates it’s not KAC since it’s centered instead of offset, so I’m guessing it’s the old dpms one? Can’t tell for sure since it’s a little grainy, just guessing

Thanks!
7/4/2025 8:20:55 AM EDT
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Happy 4th!
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Who said that?
7/5/2025 3:52:34 PM EDT
[#7]
What LPVO's have been seen on MARSOC rifles? I know I've seen Atacr's but what else?
7/5/2025 5:20:04 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Eyekahn:
What LPVO's have been seen on MARSOC rifles? I know I've seen Atacr's but what else?
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VCOG SCO and MK8 CQBSS
7/5/2025 5:42:08 PM EDT
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VCOG SCO and MK8 CQBSS
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So none of the 1-6 razors made their way onto marsoc guns from Force Recon? At least in pictures.
7/5/2025 5:56:01 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Eyekahn:


So none of the 1-6 razors made their way onto marsoc guns from Force Recon? At least in pictures.
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No. Two separate entities.
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7/5/2025 6:07:12 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By LsuJon:
No. Two separate entities.
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Originally Posted By LsuJon:
Originally Posted By Eyekahn:


So none of the 1-6 razors made their way onto marsoc guns from Force Recon? At least in pictures.
No. Two separate entities.


I believe tan ATACR 1-8’s have also been seen on MARSOC Block II’s
7/5/2025 7:39:05 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Eyekahn:


So none of the 1-6 razors made their way onto marsoc guns from Force Recon? At least in pictures.
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Nope but considering how long the Razor 1-6 has been around I’m sure it’s been on a few MARSOC guns in the last 12-13 years.

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7/6/2025 1:34:18 PM EDT
[#13]
Generally speaking, whose guns had a front sight post and who had a low pro gas block? I'd like to start working on a matching 14.5 upper for this gun. My preference would be a rifle with a low pro gas block and a Vortex Razor HD Gen II. Who would have been issued that configuration?

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7/6/2025 2:10:07 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By ELittlefield:
Generally speaking, whose guns had a front sight post and who had a low pro gas block? I'd like to start working on a matching 14.5 upper for this gun. My preference would be a rifle with a low pro gas block and a Vortex Razor HD Gen II. Who would have been issued that configuration?

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FSP were mostly an Army thing. Air Force used them as well. Brandon Wombough from Trex Arms said he saw just a few of them in MARSOC but non FSP were the norm there as well as Ranger Regiment and NSW.
7/6/2025 3:18:10 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By StealthGuy:


FSP were mostly an Army thing. Air Force used them as well. Brandon Wombough from Trex Arms said he saw a few of them in MARSOC but non FSP were the norm there as well as Ranger Regiment and NSW.
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Originally Posted By StealthGuy:
Originally Posted By ELittlefield:
Generally speaking, whose guns had a front sight post and who had a low pro gas block? I'd like to start working on a matching 14.5 upper for this gun. My preference would be a rifle with a low pro gas block and a Vortex Razor HD Gen II. Who would have been issued that configuration?

https://i.imgur.com/Swo8aeU.jpeg" target="_blank">https://i.imgur.com/Swo8aeU.jpeg


FSP were mostly an Army thing. Air Force used them as well. Brandon Wombough from Trex Arms said he saw a few of them in MARSOC but non FSP were the norm there as well as Ranger Regiment and NSW.

Very helpful, thanks. Is any Geissele mount appropriate, or is there one model in particular to hunt for?

EDIT let me rephrase that.

Is this mount, in this color clone acceptable? Or should I look for something else?

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7/9/2025 10:12:43 AM EDT
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Iraq: 91,03,04,05,06,08,09,15,16,22,23,24&25'
Afghanistan: 09,10,11,14,17,18,19,20&21'
7/9/2025 10:14:20 AM EDT
[#17]
Carl wants his scope back!
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Iraq: 91,03,04,05,06,08,09,15,16,22,23,24&25'
Afghanistan: 09,10,11,14,17,18,19,20&21'
7/9/2025 6:15:16 PM EDT
[#18]
Always enjoy this thread, thank you. Maybe someday I'll have something to post.
No more metaphors.
7/10/2025 12:30:51 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Combat_Diver:
Carl wants his scope back!
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Damnit, Carl!
7/10/2025 10:48:41 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By ELittlefield:

Very helpful, thanks. Is any Geissele mount appropriate, or is there one model in particular to hunt for?

EDIT let me rephrase that.

Is this mount, in this color clone acceptable? Or should I look for something else?

https://i.imgur.com/8ilgcD5.jpeg" target="_blank">https://i.imgur.com/8ilgcD5.jpeg
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Originally Posted By ELittlefield:
Originally Posted By StealthGuy:
Originally Posted By ELittlefield:
Generally speaking, whose guns had a front sight post and who had a low pro gas block? I'd like to start working on a matching 14.5 upper for this gun. My preference would be a rifle with a low pro gas block and a Vortex Razor HD Gen II. Who would have been issued that configuration?

https://i.imgur.com/Swo8aeU.jpeg" target="_blank">https://i.imgur.com/Swo8aeU.jpeg


FSP were mostly an Army thing. Air Force used them as well. Brandon Wombough from Trex Arms said he saw a few of them in MARSOC but non FSP were the norm there as well as Ranger Regiment and NSW.

Very helpful, thanks. Is any Geissele mount appropriate, or is there one model in particular to hunt for?

EDIT let me rephrase that.

Is this mount, in this color clone acceptable? Or should I look for something else?

https://i.imgur.com/8ilgcD5.jpeg" target="_blank">https://i.imgur.com/8ilgcD5.jpeg

Bumping this question
7/12/2025 10:38:55 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Combat_Diver:
Carl wants his scope back!
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I'm still on the hunt for one of these scopes. Bloody rare stateside!
Cowabunga it is...

“We’ve been looking for the enemy for some time now. We’ve finally found him. We’re surrounded. That simplifies the problem.” -Chesty Puller
7/12/2025 10:46:33 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By ELittlefield:

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I'm sure it's been used on a URG-I, no clue on a Block II
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7/12/2025 3:27:44 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By thatARMSguy:
I'm sure it's been used on a URG-I, no clue on a Block II
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Only ever seen it on cag guns, doesn’t mean it’s not out there.

My theory on optics and mounts is that anything is possible
7/12/2025 4:51:31 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By ChemTrailZ:


Only ever seen it on cag guns, doesn’t mean it’s not out there.

My theory on optics and mounts is that anything is possible
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Originally Posted By ChemTrailZ:
Originally Posted By thatARMSguy:
I'm sure it's been used on a URG-I, no clue on a Block II


Only ever seen it on cag guns, doesn’t mean it’s not out there.

My theory on optics and mounts is that anything is possible

Is there one mount that is first among equals in terms of widespread use, or more of a short list of acceptable solutions?
7/12/2025 5:16:59 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By ELittlefield:

Is there one mount that is first among equals in terms of widespread use, or more of a short list of acceptable solutions?
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Mount for what? AFAIK all of the “su” designated optics come with their own mounts, anything else would be unit or individual purchase.  So basically anything goes.

Just choose your optic, if it’s a general issue(as in big army or similar) or socom issue it will have its own designated mount; if not pick what you like.
7/12/2025 9:09:55 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By ChemTrailZ:



Mount for what? AFAIK all of the “su” designated optics come with their own mounts, anything else would be unit or individual purchase.  So basically anything goes.

Just choose your optic, if it’s a general issue(as in big army or similar) or socom issue it will have its own designated mount; if not pick what you like.
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Originally Posted By ChemTrailZ:
Originally Posted By ELittlefield:

Is there one mount that is first among equals in terms of widespread use, or more of a short list of acceptable solutions?



Mount for what? AFAIK all of the “su” designated optics come with their own mounts, anything else would be unit or individual purchase.  So basically anything goes.

Just choose your optic, if it’s a general issue(as in big army or similar) or socom issue it will have its own designated mount; if not pick what you like.

Thanks.
7/13/2025 1:56:13 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Combat_Diver][Edited] [#27]
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De Oppresso Liber
Iraq: 91,03,04,05,06,08,09,15,16,22,23,24&25'
Afghanistan: 09,10,11,14,17,18,19,20&21'
7/14/2025 5:07:36 PM EDT
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7/14/2025 8:42:18 PM EDT
[#29]
Block II prototype is finally functional, barrel came in a few hours ago. 10/07 date code so just outside of being clone correct, but considering the rail and charging handle aren't either it's acceptable to me (and it does fit in with the time frame for the rail, so it kinda counts). Still missing a Colt bcg and the accessories, but I can get used to the irons in the meantime. Incredibly well balanced, the handguard is incredibly light weight. Only weighs around half a pound. I'll get a proper clone lower probably after the first, don't feel like paying for a form 1 if they're gonna be free in five months. Next on the list is the bcg and then an SU-237. Also got the Shurer build coming along, hope to have both uppers complete by the Clone Rifles shoot in October.





2007 Colt gov profile 14.5" barrel
2004 Colt Cardinal forge upper, 75th RR surplus
Original Crane tested A.R.M.S. #40L tan anodized prototype, circa late 2004-early 2005
AFSOC issued A.R.M.S. #50M-CV tan anodized, 2007-2009 time frame
PRI Gasbuster military latch charging handle
CQD front sling mount
TangoDown BGV-MK46, modified to fit the S.I.R. lower rail panel

Lower isn't correct, it's just the only SBR lower I've got since the upper isn't pinned

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7/18/2025 11:39:06 PM EDT
[#30]
Where are y’all sourcing your legit su230s?  Tried the usually suspects(eBay, gunbroker, tacawap) and no luck, so is the market dry or am I looking in the wrong places?
7/22/2025 5:55:37 PM EDT
[#31]
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Big bro and little bro. I have a Surefire 4 prong on the way, and need to find some irons and maybe a Tango Down vertical grip.
7/25/2025 1:18:52 PM EDT
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7/26/2025 12:44:40 PM EDT
[#33]
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De Oppresso Liber
Iraq: 91,03,04,05,06,08,09,15,16,22,23,24&25'
Afghanistan: 09,10,11,14,17,18,19,20&21'
7/26/2025 7:07:45 PM EDT
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What goes on the tall ass pic rail over the muzzles?
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7/26/2025 9:18:08 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By SecretSquirell:

What goes on the tall ass pic rail over the muzzles?
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Big ass light is off set so gunner can see down barrels.
De Oppresso Liber
Iraq: 91,03,04,05,06,08,09,15,16,22,23,24&25'
Afghanistan: 09,10,11,14,17,18,19,20&21'
7/26/2025 9:23:01 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Combat_Diver:

Big ass light is off set so gunner can see down barrels.
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Originally Posted By Combat_Diver:
Originally Posted By SecretSquirell:

What goes on the tall ass pic rail over the muzzles?

Big ass light is off set so gunner can see down barrels.

Ah. The Hellfighter? I was given 2 of them in Afghanistan, off the books. When we were leaving I tossed them in the back of the conex. I then get told we're leaving them, so I had to dig my way through a nearly full can to get them out.
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7/27/2025 12:05:42 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By SecretSquirell:

Ah. The Hellfighter? I was given 2 of them in Afghanistan, off the books. When we were leaving I tossed them in the back of the conex. I then get told we're leaving them, so I had to dig my way through a nearly full can to get them out.
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Surefire made the Hellfighter and IBeam the IMax IIRC.  Both BIG!
De Oppresso Liber
Iraq: 91,03,04,05,06,08,09,15,16,22,23,24&25'
Afghanistan: 09,10,11,14,17,18,19,20&21'
8/3/2025 9:17:12 PM EDT
[#38]
scored a great deal on a salty RIS II FSP, that actually cleaned up better than expected, but the m203 hardware is toast; so was going to throw it on one of my otherwise stock 6920s.  Not going for a clone here, but figured this would be the best place to ask, would there be any reason to reach out to DD for replacement here, or should I just toss the rail on there as is?  Already got a new barrel nut and screws, and DD said they could send out a complete hardware set for the m203 hangers, just not sure if I should spring for it.
8/4/2025 1:11:46 AM EDT
[#39]
I mean, are you gonna mount a 203?
8/8/2025 1:15:42 AM EDT
[#40]
Posted my upper in the EE... Its time to let her go.
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EE listing
8/10/2025 11:21:34 PM EDT
[#41]
For usasoc only, was the fde NT4 issued as part of the sopmod, or only black? (prior to adoption of surefire RC)
8/15/2025 8:42:02 AM EDT
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Next to desk
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Iraq: 91,03,04,05,06,08,09,15,16,22,23,24&25'
Afghanistan: 09,10,11,14,17,18,19,20&21'
8/17/2025 9:39:22 AM EDT
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Morning guys, brand new to the site here and my more seasoned ar15.com vet of a friend sent me this forum because i'm in the process of building my first ever clone which is a block ll. More so remodeling a rifle i already own to be as clone correct as I can make it. (before you ask no i don't have a correct lower receiver because my shithole state CT sucks eggs and i can't get one.) But anyways any help on where i can dig to search for goodies for all the rest of the rifle would be greatly appreciated or just warn me and try to steer me away from a rabbit hole that i'll never get out of.
8/17/2025 10:00:30 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By 7dirtydan7:
Morning guys, brand new to the site here and my more seasoned ar15.com vet of a friend sent me this forum because i'm in the process of building my first ever clone which is a block ll. More so remodeling a rifle i already own to be as clone correct as I can make it. (before you ask no i don't have a correct lower receiver because my shithole state CT sucks eggs and i can't get one.) But anyways any help on where i can dig to search for goodies for all the rest of the rifle would be greatly appreciated or just warn me and try to steer me away from a rabbit hole that i'll never get out of.
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Welcome to the rabbit hole.
De Oppresso Liber
Iraq: 91,03,04,05,06,08,09,15,16,22,23,24&25'
Afghanistan: 09,10,11,14,17,18,19,20&21'
8/17/2025 11:33:00 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 7dirtydan7][Edited] [#45]
I have a cage code keyhole upper that is my base for my block ll upper, anyone have info on the time frame these were in service? I found some web pages for other forge markings but not a whole lot of info on the one i have.
8/17/2025 12:12:24 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By 7dirtydan7:
I have a cage code keyhole upper that is my base for my block ll upper, anyone have info on the time frame these were in service? I found some web pages for other forge markings but not a whole lot of info on the one i have.
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I didn't start seeing spare cage coded uppers showing up in supply until after 2018.
De Oppresso Liber
Iraq: 91,03,04,05,06,08,09,15,16,22,23,24&25'
Afghanistan: 09,10,11,14,17,18,19,20&21'
8/17/2025 12:22:34 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 7dirtydan7][Edited] [#47]
Ok, i found a bunch of info on all the other markings besides what i have until now
8/17/2025 12:27:59 PM EDT
[#48]
Figured with a change over to other systems and urgi’s that it would be easier to find a ris ll
8/17/2025 1:40:05 PM EDT
[#49]
Is the cage code dot matrix or stamped? I have both. I believe the stamped cage code are appropriate for the URGI when they started rolling them out. Think CD would have more info.
8/17/2025 4:24:26 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By RTrover:
Is the cage code dot matrix or stamped? I have both. I believe the stamped cage code are appropriate for the URGI when they started rolling them out. Think CD would have more info.
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Dot matrix came it first, then stamped, then back to dot, all were available prior to urgi so any and all

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