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Originally Posted By Shagohod:
The Acog looks better without the killflash is what I meant, and the RCO A4 is said to be calibrated for the 20 inch barrel. Either way, will post a pic when it gets here. |
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So, for the last couple of weeks, I have been searching for a NOS front side sling swivel assembly for one of my A4 builds without much success, and eventually I decided to back order one through Brownell's. After about a week's wait they shipped it out to me, and suffice it to say - I was thoroughly pleased with the result - turned out to be a NOS (from @ Nov of 2013) Colt front side sling mount assembly. While @$47 apiece it was a little more expensive than I would like, but still it was worth it being a sealed new-in-wrap (old stock) item, so I called up Brownell's to see about putting another on back order only to find out that when I placed my last back order, they apparently went & ordered @ 30 of them at that time and thus, at the time I called them yesterday, they still had 28 of them left. To purchase, go to:
(www).brownells.com/shooting-accessories/slings-sling-swivels/tactical-sling-mounts/tactical-sling-mount-front-sku160000352-4521-10466.aspx 
These would be appropriate for a mid-to-late era M16A4 clone build as they are the type that are only able to be used with a .750 barrel profile, unlike the earlier ones which could be used with either an M16A1 or A2/A4 profile. Typically these mounts were used in conjunction with an M203 grenade launcher, but there are several photos circulating around which also show these side sling adapters in use on non-M203 equipped M16A4s as well. These side sling mounts also work well as a replacement to the BFG fixed loop sling mount typically used with BFG's NSN Vikers sling by providing a more narrow profile (vertically) than using the BFG sling mount, which can help when attempting to mount multiple rifles in a rack system such as that of an M12 rifle rack. Pics... Attached File Attached File For me, it's all the little details like these that can make the difference between an OK build, and a Great one. FlDiveCop71 
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Originally Posted By FlDiveCop71:
So, for the last couple of weeks, I have been searching for a NOS front side sling swivel assembly for one of my A4 builds without much success, and eventually I decided to back order one through Brownell's. After about a week's wait they shipped it out to me, and suffice it to say - I was thoroughly pleased with the result - turned out to be a NOS (from @ Nov of 2013) Colt front side sling mount assembly. While @$47 apiece it was a little more expensive than I would like, but still it was worth it being a sealed new old stock (in wrap) item, so I called up Brownell's to see about putting another on back order only to find out that when I placed my last back order, they apparently went & ordered @ 30 of them at that time and thus, at the time I called them yesterday, they still had 28 of them left.
These would be appropriate for a mid-to-late era M16A4 clone build as they are the type that are only able to be used with a .750 barrel profile, unlike the earlier ones which could be used with either an M16A1 or A2/A4 profile. Typically these mounts were used in conjunction with an M203 grenade launcher, but there are several photos circulating around which also show these side sling adapters in use on non-M203 equipped M16A4s as well. These side sling mounts also work well as a replacement to the BFG fixed loop sling mount typically used with BFG's NSN Vikers sling by providing a more narrow profile (vertically) than using the BFG sling mount, which can help when attempting to mount multiple rifles in a rack system such as that of an M12 rifle rack. Pics... https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/115687/IMAG0911-223089.JPGhttps://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/115687/IMAG0914-223090.JPG For me, it's all the little details like these that can make the difference between an OK build, and a Great one. FlDiveCop71 |
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Originally Posted By FlDiveCop71:
So, for the last couple of weeks, I have been searching for a NOS front side sling swivel assembly for one of my A4 builds without much success, and eventually I decided to back order one through Brownell's. After about a week's wait they shipped it out to me, and suffice it to say - I was thoroughly pleased with the result - turned out to be a NOS (from @ Nov of 2013) Colt front side sling mount assembly. While @$47 apiece it was a little more expensive than I would like, but still it was worth it being a sealed new old stock (in wrap) item, so I called up Brownell's to see about putting another on back order only to find out that when I placed my last back order, they apparently went & ordered @ 30 of them at that time and thus, at the time I called them yesterday, they still had 28 of them left.
These would be appropriate for a mid-to-late era M16A4 clone build as they are the type that are only able to be used with a .750 barrel profile, unlike the earlier ones which could be used with either an M16A1 or A2/A4 profile. Typically these mounts were used in conjunction with an M203 grenade launcher, but there are several photos circulating around which also show these side sling adapters in use on non-M203 equipped M16A4s as well. These side sling mounts also work well as a replacement to the BFG fixed loop sling mount typically used with BFG's NSN Vikers sling by providing a more narrow profile (vertically) than using the BFG sling mount, which can help when attempting to mount multiple rifles in a rack system such as that of an M12 rifle rack. Pics... https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/115687/IMAG0911-223089.JPGhttps://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/115687/IMAG0914-223090.JPG For me, it's all the little details like these that can make the difference between an OK build, and a Great one. FlDiveCop71 |
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Originally Posted By grondike:
Stupid Avantlink isn't working for me, but if anyone else is looking, search for 160000352 on Brownells site. w-w-w.brownells.com/shooting-accessories/slings-sling-swivels/tactical-sling-mounts/tactical-sling-mount-front-sku160000352-4521-10466.aspx |
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My attempt at linking didn't work. Oh well. Pic thread.
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Thought I could like it with the NSN but I was fooling myself.
This thing needs an RCO 
A4-Ish by SoloDallas, on Flickr 
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Originally Posted By FlDiveCop71:
ETA: copy the link below & remove the dashes from the "w-w-w" & it will work... w-w-w.brownells.com/shooting-accessories/slings-sling-swivels/tactical-sling-mounts/tactical-sling-mount-front-sku160000352-4521-10466.aspx |
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Just got my A4 kit from Palmetto. Everything seems to be in great shape with a straight FSB. Also, the barrel is marked with the FN logo, which makes me happy. It is CHF, which I know isn't clone correct.
Just got my used M5 RAS in the mail, too. I have 3 full length rail panels. What other panels do I need to have with the Knights foregrip? Where should I get them? Thanks guys! Pics to come tonight. |
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Originally Posted By purevl2:
Just got my A4 kit from Palmetto. Everything seems to be in great shape with a straight FSB. Also, the barrel is marked with the FN logo, which makes me happy. It is CHF, which I know isn't clone correct. Just got my used M5 RAS in the mail, too. I have 3 full length rail panels. What other panels do I need to have with the Knights foregrip? Where should I get them? Thanks guys! Pics to come tonight. Re:panels and other accessories, eGay might be a place for you to check. Tons of used stuff in great condition (got most of my KAC gear there over the years). The other panels you want are the ones you need to complete coverage of your M5. I'll count the number of the ribs I have on mine to determine which is full length and which is (probably) 3/4th length - those might be the ones you still need to get. |
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Originally Posted By purevl2:
Just got my A4 kit from Palmetto. Everything seems to be in great shape with a straight FSB. Also, the barrel is marked with the FN logo, which makes me happy. It is CHF, which I know isn't clone correct. Just got my used M5 RAS in the mail, too. I have 3 full length rail panels. What other panels do I need to have with the Knights foregrip? Where should I get them? Thanks guys! Pics to come tonight. As for the M5 panels, here is what an entire standard M5 Mil-Pack contains... Attached File (Click on the pic to see a larger version.) Hope this helps you. FlDiveCop71
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Originally Posted By purevl2:
Nice! Thanks for the replies guys. Anyone have a pic of the relief cuts? The original purpose of the relief cut/profile was for clearance when mounting certain muzzle devices & suppressors on the A2 & A4. |
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Originally Posted By purevl2:
A2 stock that came with the Palmetto kit has a plastic door, but metal latch. Also, there's an oil stain by the sling loop. Shoujld I try to fix it by cleaning it, or adding more oil? 
M16A4 Fun Fact: Before being shipped out originally from the factory to their respective services, M16A4s were first completely soaked (sprayed down) with preservative oil... Attached File |
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Originally Posted By Shagohod:
My RAS and Acog came in yesterday, got around to putting them on today. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/452515/20170609-143539-226679.jpg Still got more to get but I'm ready to shoot it with the Acog.  |
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So, after looking back on all my various A4 cloning-related endeavors, I've come to the conclusion that I think it's just about time for me to take my M16A4 cloning efforts to ...an entirely whole new dimension.  (at least to me)
3 raw 80% receiver forgings should make for a good place to start...
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Originally Posted By FlDiveCop71:
So, after looking back on all my various A4 cloning-related endeavors, I've come to the conclusion that I think it's just about time for me to take my M16A4 cloning efforts to ...an entirely whole new dimension. (at least to me)
3 raw 80% receiver forgings should make for a good place to start...
https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/115687/IMAG0919-226805.JPG Throw away all those lowers with wrong or flashy logos and/or roll marks and start a-fresh. I just did that - feels better. I truly can't stand out of place logos or roll marks anymore. Better nothing (blank) in fact than wrong, for me. |
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Originally Posted By SoloDallas:
Throw away all those lowers with wrong or flashy logos and/or roll marks and start a-fresh. With these 3 eighty-percent receivers, I plan on making entirely new (& in the case of two of them - entirely accurate) A4 clone-builds. The 3rd receiver I intend to only include the "safe/semi/burst" markings on both sides and nothing else (no manufacturer, model, caliber, or even serial info) so as to be a true "Ghost Gun" such as the saying goes, because ...2nd Amendment reasons... and clonage be damned. 
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Originally Posted By FlDiveCop71:
I don't know. There are times/builds that I've done where even though some of the details weren't perfect or even accurate, I still wouldn't go back & redo or change them because the overall build itself worked out really well (receiver parts fit together perfectly with each other, or the build shot/functioned/performed exceptionally well). Take my dedicated .22lr A4 build for instance... Sure the DPMS lower, the long rifle caliber, & even the CMMG nitrated barrel isn't really correct for an A4 clone - the blem upper receiver though, being milled with the long axis slightly off center & thus incapable of being used for 5.56 caliber (because a 5.56 carrier would impact against the extension tube & rear receiver ring), works perfectly in conjunction with a .22lr bolt & barrel assembly while locking up perfectly with the DPMS lower & the entire thing (though technically not A4-clone-perfect) still shoots like a dream, while having about as close an acceptable A4 appearance as practical, so I have no problem with the labeling or markings not being spot-on. It still makes for an outstanding A4 trainer rifle. With these 3 eighty-percent receivers, I plan on making entirely new (& in the case of two of them - entirely accurate) A4 clone-builds. The 3rd receiver I intend to only include the "safe/semi/burst" markings on both sides and nothing else (no manufacturer, model, caliber, or even serial info) so as to be a true "Ghost Gun" such as the saying goes, because ...2nd Amendment reasons... and clonage be damned. Some of my most favorite guns were never perfect - some used or even abused. So it's not that that I am looking for (perfection, it being new etc.) It's just me - over time some more modern logos (Spikes Lowers, to make you an example) completely disgusted me when used for classic lowers. Mistake was mine to begin with (you can see safety switch pictograms for example, in both my former A2 and A4 'clones'). After a while, those logos and/or roll marks is all I tended to look at and bothered the hell out of me - that's why I was telling you. Now I really care about those - while for example, I wouldn't still care too much about color, color match, type of barrel and even some functional details. Carry on and enjoy your builds! |
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Originally Posted By SoloDallas:
I hear you - and understand you! Some of my most favorite guns were never perfect - some used or even abused. So it's not that that I am looking for (perfection, it being new etc.) It's just me - over time some more modern logos (Spikes Lowers, to make you an example) completely disgusted me when used for classic lowers. Mistake was mine to begin with (you can see safety switch pictograms for example, in both my former A2 and A4 'clones'). After a while, those logos and/or roll marks is all I tended to look at and bothered the hell out of me - that's why I was telling you. Now I really care about those - while for example, I wouldn't still care too much about color, color match, type of barrel and even some functional details. Carry on and enjoy your builds! I have some 80% lowers and plan to send them out for appropriate clone markings and finish them one of these days, but the LRB will do for now. Here's a not very good pic of my A4 lower. 
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Originally Posted By FlDiveCop71:
So, for the last couple of weeks, I have been searching for a NOS front side sling swivel assembly for one of my A4 builds without much success, and eventually I decided to back order one through Brownell's. After about a week's wait they shipped it out to me, and suffice it to say - I was thoroughly pleased with the result - turned out to be a NOS (from @ Nov of 2013) Colt front side sling mount assembly. While @$47 apiece it was a little more expensive than I would like, but still it was worth it being a sealed new-in-wrap (old stock) item, so I called up Brownell's to see about putting another on back order only to find out that when I placed my last back order, they apparently went & ordered @ 30 of them at that time and thus, at the time I called them yesterday, they still had 28 of them left. To purchase, go to: (www).brownells.com/shooting-accessories/slings-sling-swivels/tactical-sling-mounts/tactical-sling-mount-front-sku160000352-4521-10466.aspx
These would be appropriate for a mid-to-late era M16A4 clone build as they are the type that are only able to be used with a .750 barrel profile, unlike the earlier ones which could be used with either an M16A1 or A2/A4 profile. Typically these mounts were used in conjunction with an M203 grenade launcher, but there are several photos circulating around which also show these side sling adapters in use on non-M203 equipped M16A4s as well. These side sling mounts also work well as a replacement to the BFG fixed loop sling mount typically used with BFG's NSN Vikers sling by providing a more narrow profile (vertically) than using the BFG sling mount, which can help when attempting to mount multiple rifles in a rack system such as that of an M12 rifle rack. Pics... Attached File For me, it's all the little details like these that can make the difference between an OK build, and a Great one. FlDiveCop71 Also, what's the closest thing to the Colt Ambi Safety you can get to be correct as a clone? |
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Originally Posted By purevl2:
How involved is the install on these? (Side Sling Adapters) Also, what's the closest thing to the Colt Ambi Safety you can get to be correct as a clone? Not sure what you're asking in regards to the ambi selector. If you mean replacing the colt ambi selector with another brand of ambi selector, then go with an FN one (though these are somewhat difficult to obtain as individual parts). If you mean repacing the Colt ambi with a non-ambi selector then there are a couple of options: Type 1 Safety Selector - Is a non-ambidextrous selector with a lever/paw on the left side that extends only to the edge of the selector base, with a "Tick" or divot mark on the right side to indicate the mode of operation. These safeties can vary in color from light gray to midnight black (earlier ones being more grey - later ones more black). DPMS, White Oak Armory, & CMT (among other brands) make these types of safeties. Type 2 Safety Selector - Is like above except the lever/paw extends to the center of the safeties' base rather than only to the edge of it, and they tend to be more black in color (the more recently manufactured they are). Colt tends to make these. PSA offers these, though occasionally they have the type ones instead. These are the Semi-auto versions, the military full-auto versions are similar (have the same outward appearance) Attached File Type 3 & 4 Safety selectors - Like the type 1 & 2 except they are reversed-design (non-ambidextrous but designed for left-hand use) and otherwise following the same type 1 & 2 features. These are generally rare safeties. Most I have seen are full auto type rather than semi-auto ones. Specialized Armament used to offer these. don't know if they still do or not. Hope this helps you FlDiveCop71 |
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Originally Posted By purevl2:
Also, what's the closest thing to the Colt Ambi Safety you can get to be correct as a clone? Colt Attached File In this next image you may be able to make out the CAGE code 13629 marked on the small lever. I hadn't noticed but the threading is messed up on the bolt. There's a flat spot. Maybe it's meant to be like that but the other one I have is installed on my M4A1 clone. Attached File The next ones are Specialized Armament Warehouse (left) and PSA (right) Attached File My impressions: - the Colt one I have installed is super gritty - the SAW one was also gritty when I used it - PSA is super smooth - short lever only option on Colt isn't my preference - all have at least 1MM of space between the side of the lower and the side of the selector - Colt was $40 from the vendor whose name shall not be mentioned - SAW was of course more than the Colt because SAW - PSA was $9.95 on sale Wish I could get more of the PSA versions but they never seem to have them in stock. I'd put the PSA in one of my A4 clones but the ambi selectors make the rifle not fit in an M12 weapons rack. On a side note, PSA Classic LPKs used to include a Type 2 'S' marked selector like Dive Cop shows above. Unfortunately the last (2) I've gotten have had the Type 1 and appear of inferior quality. Sucks 'cause the PSA Classic LPKs seemed to be of really good quality. |
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BCM 20" Upper Assembly replaced with an Aero Precision upper (Because that laser etched BCM logo will not come off) Colt Lower ATPIAL-C OKC Bayonet KAC M5 RAS Trijicon TA31RCOA4 ACOG USGI 3 Point Sling Side by side with its Chinese Polytech AK counterpart. 
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Oh cool! A Clone thread Nice to meet people weird like me!
BCM 20" Upper Assembly replaced with an Aero Precision upper (Because that laser etched BCM logo will not come off) Colt Lower ATPIAL-C OKC Bayonet KAC M5 RAS Trijicon TA31RCOA4 ACOG USGI 3 Point Sling Side by side with its Chinese Polytech AK counterpart. http://i.imgur.com/W01pBTh.jpg |
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How it started out... over nine years ago (It was all soo much simpler then):
Originally Posted By FlDiveCop71: This is the base for my M16A4 Clone Build. It's nothing special right now - just a Bushmaster XM15E2S with a 1 in 7" twist gov profile barrel. Attached File Attached File I look forward to building her up though... FlDiveCop71
What I had thought & planned at the time... Originally Posted By FlDiveCop71: My plans include adding (or changing) the following items on my A4 Build: ITT AN/PVS-14D I'm sure it will be at least a year before I get it anywhere near being complete, and by then I'm sure there will be something else out there to be had, but oh well...That's life. I do what I can...
Edited for progress... Just over nine years later, it's still not quite finished; though now, I think the end is actually within sight. Only one or two minor details (rack numbers, ect.) and one huge obstacle (the PVS-14D) remain, though I'm hoping to hurdle the -14 by this X-mas... Father's Day came early for me this year, cause Daddy needed a new ...PEQ-2... 
Attached File The other side stuffs... Attached File One of the nicer early TA31RCO-A4 details... Attached File Daddy is once again... one happy ass FlDiveCop71.
Attached File Details that may or may not be apparent in the above photos (contents): M16A4 Technical Maintenance Manual (2008) M16A4 Operator's Manual (2010) USMC Annual Rifle Training Data Book (2012) TA31RCO-A4 Manual (2007) AN/PEQ-2A/B Manual (2005) AN/PEQ-2A/B laminated Quick Reference Users Data Card Target Designator Pattern Generators for AN/PEQ-2A User's manuals / Instructions / care & maintenance data sheets for (inside the Rifle Training Databook): Eagle Industries Tas-1 Sling & Stock Pouch Surefire M951 & Filter Assembly KAC M5 Rail Adapter System (RAS) Matech Rear Sight Assembly Other Items: 1st contract run OKC3S Bayonet & Sheath Complete Laser Borelight System LBS-300C (PEMM-1), w/case & accessories Case for AN/PEQ-2A (Mil-Pak, complete) w/accessories Case for TA31RCO-A4 ACOG (Mil-Pak, Complete) w/accessories (Scopecoat, CH mount, lenspen, ect.) Case for KAC M5 RAS (Mil-pak, complete) contains unused cover panels. So close to getting this one all done I think... FlDiveCop71
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Originally Posted By FlDiveCop71:
How it started out... over nine years ago (It was all soo much simpler then): Originally Posted By FlDiveCop71: This is the base for my M16A4 Clone Build. It's nothing special right now - just a Bushmaster XM15E2S with a 1 in 7" twist gov profile barrel. http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u235/FLDiveCop71/MYA4START1b.jpg http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u235/FLDiveCop71/BarrelMark1.jpg I look forward to building her up though... FlDiveCop71
What I had thought & planned at the time... Originally Posted By FlDiveCop71: My plans include adding (or changing) the following items on my A4 Build: ITT AN/PVS-14D I'm sure it will be at least a year before I get it anywhere near being complete, and by then I'm sure there will be something else out there to be had, but oh well...That's life. I do what I can...
Edited for progress... Just over nine years later, it's still not quite finished; though now, I think the end is actually within sight. Only one or two minor details (rack numbers, ect.) and one huge obstacle (the PVS-14D) remain, though I'm hoping to hurdle the -14 by this X-mas... Father's Day came early for me this year, cause Daddy needed a new ...PEQ-2...
https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/115687/IMAG0950b-229268.JPG The other side stuffs... https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/115687/IMAG0962-229269.JPG One of the nicer early TA31RCO-A4 details... https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/115687/IMAG0977-229272.JPG Daddy is once again... one happy ass FlDiveCop71.
https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/115687/IMAG0979-229273.JPG Details that may or may not be apparent in the above photos (contents): M16A4 Technical Maintenance Manual (2008) M16A4 Operator's Manual (2010) USMC Annual Rifle Training Data Book (2012) TA31RCO-A4 Manual (2007) AN/PEQ-2A/B Manual (2005) AN/PEQ-2A/B laminated Quick Reference Users Data Card Target Designator Pattern Generators for AN/PEQ-2A User's manuals / Instructions / care & maintenance data sheets for (inside the Rifle Training Databook): Eagle Industries Tas-1 Sling & Stock Pouch Surefire M951 & Filter Assembly KAC M5 Rail Adapter System (RAS) Matech Rear Sight Assembly Other Items: 1st contract run OKC3S Bayonet & Sheath Complete Laser Borelight System LBS-300C (PEMM-1), w/case & accessories Case for AN/PEQ-2A (Mil-Pak, complete) w/accessories Case for TA31RCO-A4 ACOG (Mil-Pak, Complete) w/accessories (Scopecoat, CH mount, lenspen, ect.) Case for KAC M5 RAS (Mil-pak, complete) contains unused cover panels. So close to getting this one all done I think... FlDiveCop71 
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Originally Posted By Combat_Diver:
Put it all in a M1950 weapons case!
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Question: many of us (including me) put the PEQ (2 or later) on the sides as opposed to on top.
Why is that done? Better visibility? I have done it myself years ago with my first A4 clone (which happened to be a neutered Colt in Shitaly). The reason why I had done it - having seen it on some actual pictures - was because in reality I could detach it more quickly when I didn't want to have it installed. (older A4 clone with PEQ shown) 
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Originally Posted By SoloDallas:
Question: many of us (including me) put the PEQ (2 or later) on the sides as opposed to on top. Why is that done? Better visibility? I have done it myself years ago with my first A4 clone (which happened to be a neutered Colt in Shitaly). The reason why I had done it - having seen it on some actual pictures - was because in reality I could detach it more quickly when I didn't want to have it installed. (older A4 clone with PEQ shown) https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2806/13776449985_4d8ab6cdb9_h.jpg Hoorah by SoloDallas, on Flickr FlDiveCop71
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Originally Posted By SoloDallas:
Question: many of us (including me) put the PEQ (2 or later) on the sides as opposed to on top. Why is that done? Better visibility? I have done it myself years ago with my first A4 clone (which happened to be a neutered Colt in Shitaly). The reason why I had done it - having seen it on some actual pictures - was because in reality I could detach it more quickly when I didn't want to have it installed. (older A4 clone with PEQ shown) https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2806/13776449985_4d8ab6cdb9_h.jpg Hoorah by SoloDallas, on Flickr Most guys also liked their lights on the starboard side so it wouldn't hit them if their hands were doing something else. |
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Originally Posted By 03RN:
We always put them on the top. I think it had more to do with that's how we did it with the A2 barrel mounts that attached through the holes in the handguard. A lot of guys had them on top so they'd fit in an M12 Rifle rack better too, but that's also how a lot of the PEQ-2s ended up with busted off lens cap retainer buttons & adjuster knob covers. (From the locking bars repeatedly knocking into them.) Most guys also liked their lights on the starboard side so it wouldn't hit them if their hands were doing something else. It's also a lot easier to hit the tail cap switch when using a vertical grip if the light mounted on the right hand side. Only time I mount them on the port side (as pictured earlier) is if I'm using a remote switch & something more valuable is mounted on the right side. FlDiveCop71
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Originally Posted By C6H12O6:
I don't know about the FN ones that FL Dive Cop mentions above, but here are some I have.... Colt https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/123535/IMG-4932-227546.JPG In this next image you may be able to make out the CAGE code 13629 marked on the small lever. I hadn't noticed but the threading is messed up on the bolt. There's a flat spot. Maybe it's meant to be like that but the other one I have is installed on my M4A1 clone. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/123535/IMG-4933-227547.JPG The next ones are Specialized Armament Warehouse (left) and PSA (right) https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/123535/IMG-4934-227548.JPG My impressions: - the Colt one I have installed is super gritty - the SAW one was also gritty when I used it - PSA is super smooth - short lever only option on Colt isn't my preference - all have at least 1MM of space between the side of the lower and the side of the selector - Colt was $40 from the vendor whose name shall not be mentioned - SAW was of course more than the Colt because SAW - PSA was $9.95 on sale Wish I could get more of the PSA versions but they never seem to have them in stock. I'd put the PSA in one of my A4 clones but the ambi selectors make the rifle not fit in an M12 weapons rack. On a side note, PSA Classic LPKs used to include a Type 2 'S' marked selector like Dive Cop shows above. Unfortunately the last (2) I've gotten have had the Type 1 and appear of inferior quality. Sucks 'cause the PSA Classic LPKs seemed to be of really good quality. I suspect they're FN, based on their proximity to FN. |
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