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2/25/2025 2:47:53 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Eyekahn:
700m is not an issue for this rig.

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Nice.   Where in NC has a range that goes that far?
2/25/2025 3:23:14 PM EDT
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2/25/2025 3:43:14 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Eyekahn:

700m is not an issue for this rig.

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Nice, Clay!
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2/25/2025 3:54:13 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Mcgiggles:

Nice.   Where in NC has a range that goes that far?
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Coleman’s Creek has one mile.

Frontline Defense and Woody’s both have 1,000, but members have to qualify first.

Camp Butner has 1,000 yards. North State Shooting Club runs matches there. There are usually open practices the Friday before a match.

I’m not familiar with the range in the picture, but I would like to know more.
2/25/2025 4:47:39 PM EDT
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2/25/2025 7:41:35 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Mcgiggles:

Nice.   Where in NC has a range that goes that far?
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It's actually got targets out to 1641m.
2/26/2025 12:12:27 PM EDT
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2/28/2025 9:53:45 AM EDT
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Got bored and took another picture. I think I might work on finishing my Grendel now that this build is basically done.

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Soon...
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Why is the sky blue?
What makes the green grass grow?
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3/4/2025 2:53:56 PM EDT
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Congrats on your new silencer! How are you liking it?
Why is the sky blue?
What makes the green grass grow?
3/4/2025 4:13:52 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By 11boomboom:

Congrats on your new silencer! How are you liking it?
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Originally Posted By 11boomboom:

Congrats on your new silencer! How are you liking it?


Thanks man. It's nice. Sounds like a 22lr on the 18" barrel.

Shooting prone over a snowy stump I wasn't really shooting groups but it was a good training session. 2 feet of snow and snowshoes makes for interesting positions.
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3/4/2025 5:57:45 PM EDT
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Noice!!!!! Love the wrap! Attached File


Game on!
3/4/2025 7:34:24 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By slowkota1:
I think my scope puts this in the SPR category for the time being. It'll go in the recce thread once I put a LPVO on it.
I haven't shot it yet, been waiting on the can which got approved today.

Main parts...
15.1" Lilja RECCE barrel
DD RIS III rail
Otter Creek Labs OCM5
Arken SH4 4-16x50mm
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@slowkota1

How do you like that Lilja barrel? What commerical loads does it like best? What sort of accuracy are you achieving? What distances have you shot out to?

I have always wanted a Lilja barrel, but always talked myself out if it. Lol.


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3/4/2025 7:45:52 PM EDT
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3/6/2025 2:07:32 PM EDT
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Stick

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3/6/2025 7:21:47 PM EDT
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.....I'll be in my bunk.....
3/6/2025 9:36:22 PM EDT
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Nice setup and solid groups!
3/7/2025 12:29:12 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By DV8EDD:


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That one really feels….. right.   I’m not sure how to put it into words, but the feel in the hands as well as on target is something special.
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3/7/2025 12:01:28 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By bzugger:


Nice setup and solid groups!
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Thanks!

I got this 18" KAC LPR Mod 2 upper from a trade in August of 2020 and have been recording groups since then using the SubMOA app on my phone. Mostly load workups and zero confirmations and just curiosity with some factory ammo.
13 different projectiles, 6 different powders, probably 3 different primers (CCI450, 41, and a few with 400, but I didn't keep track), and mixed range pickup brass (maybe once fired, maybe five times fired, i dunno).
Most of the 77gr SMK's are MidwayUSA and Powder Valley Factory Seconds!

Since 8-2020, I have recorded 859 shots in 169 groups with an average group size of 1.037moa. Average group is 5 rounds for reference.

I figure if I've shot 6x times as many rounds in matches and just general shooting, I'm over 6k rounds through it, 7x would be nearing 7k rounds. When I go out for practice I usually shoot a couple 5 round groups then around 5-10 confirming dope at distance and then 30-40 rounds practicing, sometimes more but hardly ever less. At matches I shoot 100-200 rounds depending on the match. So, I don't think 6x or even 7x is unrealistic, it may be even more.

I did a 5-round group last night, one last time before a match this Saturday and 5 shots were .9, which is certainly within it's capability still. Then I shot 50 more rounds practicing.



I know I know, everybody on the internet is a snipertyper PHD ballistician litz wannabe. Data is data though and this LPR will flat out shoot the 77gr SMK's, for an ar15 it's pretty great.
3/7/2025 6:53:20 PM EDT
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3/7/2025 7:46:57 PM EDT
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Shew, that camo is fantastic!
Game on!
3/10/2025 11:01:43 AM EDT
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Stripped the paint off this weekend. Back to black, at least for a little while.

18" KAC LPR Mod 2

3/11/2025 7:12:17 AM EDT
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Waiting on a few small parts, mostly a taller ROF for the acro
3/11/2025 4:08:52 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Wormydog1987:
Stripped the paint off this weekend. Back to black, at least for a little while.

18" KAC LPR Mod 2

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How the hell did you get such a clean strip?!
3/11/2025 5:47:24 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By india13c:


How the hell did you get such a clean strip?!
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Originally Posted By india13c:
Originally Posted By Wormydog1987:
Stripped the paint off this weekend. Back to black, at least for a little while.

18" KAC LPR Mod 2

https://i.imgur.com/KIzkUep_d.webp?maxwidth=1300&fidelity=grand


How the hell did you get such a clean strip?!


No kidding. I actually love how most stripped guns look because they just look worn.
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3/11/2025 7:13:17 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By india13c:


How the hell did you get such a clean strip?!
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Citri strip will get it that clean if you lay it on thick enough and let it sit for a few hours.
3/11/2025 7:21:54 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Three0h8:
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Waiting on a few small parts, mostly a taller ROF for the acro
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Yes!

I just ordered an H59 MK5 for mine! This thing is a monster and deserves more glass.
3/12/2025 1:56:05 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Eyekahn:



Yes!

I just ordered an H59 MK5 for mine! This thing is a monster and deserves more glass.
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I strongly considered the MK5 with H59, but really liked the Mil-XT in my NX8 so I wanted the same in the ATACR.

Few more small parts showed up today and had some time to throw them on there. Ordered a variety of 69gr-77gr ammo to see what the Douglas likes.

3/12/2025 4:57:31 PM EDT
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Ignorant question, does the 18 inch barrel and rifle length gas really make that big of a difference over a 16 inch mid length barrel?
3/12/2025 6:11:10 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Forlorn-Hope:
Ignorant question, does the 18 inch barrel and rifle length gas really make that big of a difference over a 16 inch mid length barrel?
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I personally don’t notice, but I rarely extend 5.56 past 600 meters. So, the velocity difference doesn’t change my drops all that substantially. Granted, my experience is comparing barrels from different mfgs, but both considered high quality.

My Rainier 18” Match compared to my 16” Noveske is just about equal, if you’re asking about accuracy, recoil impulse, parts wear, etc. I prefer the 16” for the sake of maneuvering and OAL, because the suppressor makes it musket length.
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3/12/2025 7:05:39 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Three0h8:


I strongly considered the MK5 with H59, but really liked the Mil-XT in my NX8 so I wanted the same in the ATACR.

Few more small parts showed up today and had some time to throw them on there. Ordered a variety of 69gr-77gr ammo to see what the Douglas likes.

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My HCS Douglas absolutely hammers AAC 77gr OTM. 2650fps. I stopped reloading match 5.56 now.

We are about to have nearly identical rifles. I've got an M600 with an mlok pressure pad On the way.
3/12/2025 7:41:45 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By EverForward:


I personally don’t notice, but I rarely extend 5.56 past 600 meters. So, the velocity difference doesn’t change my drops all that substantially. Granted, my experience is comparing barrels from different mfgs, but both considered high quality.

My Rainier 18” Match compared to my 16” Noveske is just about equal, if you’re asking about accuracy, recoil impulse, parts wear, etc. I prefer the 16” for the sake of maneuvering and OAL, because the suppressor makes it musket length.
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Two questions:

What year/model noveske 16"?

What loads have you found it likes?

I'm building one up with a stainless 16" Noveske and I'll be going through the process soon of picking a load to stock.
3/12/2025 7:45:29 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Forlorn-Hope:
Ignorant question, does the 18 inch barrel and rifle length gas really make that big of a difference over a 16 inch mid length barrel?
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Isn't it really only a 50-75ish FPS gain? bullet weight dependent. I don't see it being that significant really, depending on what you're trying to do.
3/12/2025 8:00:49 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By CJ47:

Isn't it really only a 50-75ish FPS gain? bullet weight dependent. I don't see it being that significant really, depending on what you're trying to do.
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That's what I thought but I wasn't sure if I was missing greater context since I have have no experience with the 18inch rifle length gas setups.

Thanks for the replies both of you, I appreciate it.
3/12/2025 10:03:12 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Andi-in-BKK:


Two questions:

What year/model noveske 16"?

What loads have you found it likes?

I'm building one up with a stainless 16" Noveske and I'll be going through the process soon of picking a load to stock.
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It's a newer 16", the LW profile Recon. I'd guess it was made in the last 2 years or so, but I don't really follow "drops" so it may not even be that old.

The barrel really seems to be a big fan of the AAC 77 gr OTM. It's a 1:7, so that makes sense I suppose. AAC can be hit or miss, but I've been right at about 1 MOA with it, and if I were a better shooter, I'm sure I could shrink it down to about 0.8 MOA for a 10 round group. I've had decent groups with 62 gr junk that was sitting around, doesn't seem to like any lighter stuff. Take that with a grain of salt, because most if it was M193 or like, and that ammo isn't exactly precise. I'm waiting for a buddy of mine to drop off some Black Hills 77 gr SMKs. I'll let you know if something jumps out.

I'll chrono next time I go out and see how fast it cooks.

"Bad men need nothing more to compass their ends, than that good men should look on and do nothing" - John Stuart Mill
3/13/2025 9:12:40 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By EverForward:


It's a newer 16", the LW profile Recon. I'd guess it was made in the last 2 years or so, but I don't really follow "drops" so it may not even be that old.

The barrel really seems to be a big fan of the AAC 77 gr OTM. It's a 1:7, so that makes sense I suppose. AAC can be hit or miss, but I've been right at about 1 MOA with it, and if I were a better shooter, I'm sure I could shrink it down to about 0.8 MOA for a 10 round group. I've had decent groups with 62 gr junk that was sitting around, doesn't seem to like any lighter stuff. Take that with a grain of salt, because most if it was M193 or like, and that ammo isn't exactly precise. I'm waiting for a buddy of mine to drop off some Black Hills 77 gr SMKs. I'll let you know if something jumps out.

I'll chrono next time I go out and see how fast it cooks.

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Nice! That's what I like to hear.

I'm going to grab a few hundred rounds of AAC 77gr OTM and SMKs, and I kinda want to try out some of the heavier Shellshock loads from Badlands or BlackArc. They have 85gr and 80.5gr match bullets moving north of 2700fps from an 18" Douglas. I'll probably pick up some 77gr GMM also and run all of them for groups at 100 and 300 and see what it likes.

I don't get back until June though so it's a long wait. But I'll post my results.
3/13/2025 3:44:32 PM EDT
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18" Geissele phassed array SPR barrel
Geissele Receivers
G gas block, REBCG, ACH
Leupold MK5HD 3.6-18 in G MK5 mount
G SSA-E X trigger
YHM Resonator K until I decide on a better can (It bounces between this and my 11.5")
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3/13/2025 4:11:40 PM EDT
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Stick
3/13/2025 8:15:16 PM EDT
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Perhaps my favorite AR out of my collection...



3/14/2025 10:52:59 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By spyderboy03:
18" Geissele phassed array SPR barrel
Geissele Receivers
G gas block, REBCG, ACH
Leupold MK5HD 3.6-18 in G MK5 mount
G SSA-E X trigger
YHM Resonator K until I decide on a better can (It bounces between this and my 11.5")
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I'm curious how that Geissele SPR barrel shoots. I like the idea of it.
3/14/2025 11:12:55 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Andi-in-BKK:


I'm curious how that Geissele SPR barrel shoots. I like the idea of it.
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Hoping to get to the range soon. My buddy was getting around 3/4" 5-round groups with Mk262 when he was zeroing it. Geissele was getting around that with IMI and AAC as well. Hopefully they will tighten up and speed up around the 100-150 round count. I found another thread online that is recent and that guy was getting 1/2-3/4 MOA groups right off the bat with multiple ammo types. He also shot a 10-shot 1.09 MOA group with AAC 77gr.
3/15/2025 1:39:14 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By spyderboy03:
Hoping to get to the range soon. My buddy was getting around 3/4" 5-round groups with Mk262 when he was zeroing it. Geissele was getting around that with IMI and AAC as well. Hopefully they will tighten up and speed up around the 100-150 round count. I found another thread online that is recent and that guy was getting 1/2-3/4 MOA groups right off the bat with multiple ammo types. He also shot a 10-shot 1.09 MOA group with AAC 77gr.
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That’s pretty solid.

I wonder how that gas system handles hotter loads like the shellshock cased stuff. Seems like it would handle it better but I’d like to see real world testing on it.
3/15/2025 9:29:46 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Andi-in-BKK:


That's pretty solid.

I wonder how that gas system handles hotter loads like the shellshock cased stuff. Seems like it would handle it better but I'd like to see real world testing on it.
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Got out yesterday. I had several 5 round 3/4"-1" groups. Recoil impulse is very nice. Zero gas to face with a super 42/H2 setup with a YHM Resonator K on the end and 3:30 ejection. That was with my load of 69gr RMR over 23.4gr shooter's world tactical rifle as well as Bone Frog 77gr ammo, both of which are 5.56 pressure, but obviously not as hot as shellshock. Shot some Hornady match, but that stuff is .223 and pretty slow
3/15/2025 10:00:02 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By spyderboy03:
Got out yesterday. I had several 5 round 3/4"-1" groups. Recoil impulse is very nice. Zero gas to face with a super 42/H2 setup with a YHM Resonator K on the end and 3:30 ejection. That was with my load of 69gr RMR over 23.4gr shooter's world tactical rifle as well as Bone Frog 77gr ammo, both of which are 5.56 pressure, but obviously not as hot as shellshock. Shot some Hornady match, but that stuff is .223 and pretty slow
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That's good to know. Does it take a special gas block or could you use an adjustable if you wanted to?

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