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7/31/2022 7:04:24 AM EDT
Am I correct in thinking that these are basically the same thing?

Tsh77769
7/31/2022 7:53:05 AM EDT
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No.  The jakl variant uses an AK style recoil system.
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7/31/2022 8:29:16 AM EDT
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Jakl is long stroke piston

Brn-180 is short stroke piston
7/31/2022 12:40:04 PM EDT
[#3]
I know the BRN is made by PWS, is the Jakl made in house by PSA or subcontracted/licensed?
7/31/2022 12:46:17 PM EDT
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Jakl is long stroke piston
Brn-180 is short stroke piston
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7/31/2022 7:06:15 PM EDT
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Here is my Jakl upper disassembled


8/2/2022 6:16:39 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By JackassWithARedPatch:
I know the BRN is made by PWS, is the Jakl made in house by PSA or subcontracted/licensed?
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Jakl is made in house by PSA.
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8/3/2022 1:07:55 PM EDT
[#7]
I look at them as filling similar roles but different ways of achieving the same outcome.

I have a BRN-180 and just picked up a JAKL. If the JAKL performs as expected it will take over the trunk gun job.

JAKL fresh out of the box in comparison.

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And the JAKL an hour later. Now to get some free time to go shoot it.
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11/5/2022 8:22:16 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By yakrat101:
I look at them as filling similar roles but different ways of achieving the same outcome.

I have a BRN-180 and just picked up a JAKL. If the JAKL performs as expected it will take over the trunk gun job.

JAKL fresh out of the box in comparison.

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And the JAKL an hour later. Now to get some free time to go shoot it.
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So how are they compared to each other? I've read the Jakl is heavier, how is the balance? Recoil similar?
11/6/2022 2:27:35 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By yamahawarrior89:


So how are they compared to each other? I've read the Jakl is heavier, how is the balance? Recoil similar?
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I have both. The JAKL is considerably heavier but i think it balances better. Recoil is very pleasant on both though, especially suppressed. Neither gassed me out at all suppressed. I think the action is a little smoother on the BRN but they're both gonna be way nicer than an off the rack AR.

I haven't done any accuracy testing but not sure that's what you buy a 10.5 for regardless.

I dunno your budget or needs or uses but I can say in my case I'm very happy with both. If someone forced me to choose one it'd be the BRN just because I have more time behind it.




11/6/2022 4:21:51 PM EDT
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^^^  Agreed.  Both are really cool firearms, and it's a toss-up over which one I take out shooting the most.  I'd say that the BRN has just a LITTLE more snap in the recoil department.  But if I absolutely had to choose, I think shooting the JAKL is just a bit more fun to me for some reason.
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11/6/2022 4:39:11 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Karter14171:

I have both. The JAKL is considerably heavier but i think it balances better. Recoil is very pleasant on both though, especially suppressed. Neither gassed me out at all suppressed. I think the action is a little smoother on the BRN but they're both gonna be way nicer than an off the rack AR.

I haven't done any accuracy testing but not sure that's what you buy a 10.5 for regardless.

I dunno your budget or needs or uses but I can say in my case I'm very happy with both. If someone forced me to choose one it'd be the BRN just because I have more time behind it.




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Originally Posted By Karter14171:
Originally Posted By yamahawarrior89:


So how are they compared to each other? I've read the Jakl is heavier, how is the balance? Recoil similar?

I have both. The JAKL is considerably heavier but i think it balances better. Recoil is very pleasant on both though, especially suppressed. Neither gassed me out at all suppressed. I think the action is a little smoother on the BRN but they're both gonna be way nicer than an off the rack AR.

I haven't done any accuracy testing but not sure that's what you buy a 10.5 for regardless.

I dunno your budget or needs or uses but I can say in my case I'm very happy with both. If someone forced me to choose one it'd be the BRN just because I have more time behind it.







I appreciate the response. I don't have a 300 blackout and I was looking at getting one of these. Obviously will have to wait for the 300 Jakl but I'm hoping it'll come with a shorter barrel. A 6-8" barrel and fde is my wishlist
11/6/2022 11:07:50 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By yamahawarrior89:



I appreciate the response. I don't have a 300 blackout and I was looking at getting one of these. Obviously will have to wait for the 300 Jakl but I'm hoping it'll come with a shorter barrel. A 6-8" barrel and fde is my wishlist
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I think you'll be happy with it for sure. Very cool system
11/7/2022 1:13:07 AM EDT
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For me the most critical difference is the charging handle. Minus the short stroke gas piston, the only true 180 feature they kept was the absolute worst one. That god awful charging handle and ejection port assembly.

I’ll be getting a JAKL. If Brownell’s had used a left side charger it would be the upper to get. Instead they made a super model with a lazy eye and buck teeth.

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