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Originally Posted By DocApocalypse: US DOS Mobile Security Deployments team member using Colt 727 5.56 carbine with Carbine Length M203 Heat shield, Iraq, 2004. That was quoted from the website. Isn't it actually an XM4? https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/271112/GkVbUt5XwAAs97v_jpg-3470500.JPG Cool pic. The 727 was a commercial offering designed by Colt in parallel to the XM4 program. Obviously there's many similarities. The 727 is sometimes referred to as the Abu Dhabi carbine because the UAE bought a bunch of them, but they were also COTS purchased by DOD as well, and obviously DS as shown in your pic. |
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Originally Posted By DocApocalypse: US DOS Mobile Security Deployments team member using Colt 727 5.56 carbine with Carbine Length M203 Heat shield, Iraq, 2004. That was quoted from the website. Isn't it actually an XM4? https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/271112/GkVbUt5XwAAs97v_jpg-3470500.JPG The 1st batch of M4s shipped w/ fixed carry handle uppers. Just like the Navy's M16A3 came w/ fixed carry handles & later, Picatinny rails instead. |
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I wish this were a better photo. "Alexandria Police Department SWAT, Lousiana, USA, 1996 period. You might notice the use of M203 grenade launchers on Colt Model 727 rifles, this was more or less common in 1990s SWATs, with M203s used for launching 40mm tear gas grenades." Attached File I didn't take the time to look back through the entire thread. I may have posted this pic previously (looks familiar) but the caption that came with this version of it is very different from the caption when I posted it the first time IIRC. "US Navy serviceman using Colt 727 carbine with full-length M16 stock, 1996 period. Also note the use of early ACOG optic." Attached File |
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I'd be grinnin' too if I had me a XM177. "XM-177 carbine with custom magazine used by US trooper in Vietnam, 1970s period." Attached File |
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Airmen from US 506th Expeditionary Security Forces Squadron armed with Colt Model 653 carbine, Iraq, 2003 period. Attached File |
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Originally Posted By DocApocalypse: US troops using Chicom AK chest rigs during the GWOT. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/271112/GlTansEW0AAO_zz_png-3482188.JPG These are OGA cats. 18Z50 |
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Originally Posted By Combat_Diver: Came in to me today. Early production M4A1 as series started at W300001 in late 94'. Been thru Anniston (05) as marked on other side. Still in SOF https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/32677/IMG_9774_jpeg-3457016.JPG Forgive my ignorance, but what is the FDE (rubber?) ring between the delta ring and the receiver? |
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Originally Posted By PAESAN: Forgive my ignorance, but what is the FDE (rubber?) ring between the delta ring and the receiver? Not to answer for C_D, but after spending a few years as an armorer  I'm going to guess it's part of a dummy cord rig for either the optic or laser. The cord in the pic is just 550 cord (paracord), but I've seen dummy cords made out of metal lockwire, 550 cord, multiple zip ties, you name it. I saw it a lot more on infantry regiment guns than on SF guns, though.
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Originally Posted By Blanco_Diablo: Not to answer for C_D, but after spending a few years as an armorer I'm going to guess it's part of a dummy cord rig for either the optic or laser. The cord in the pic is just 550 cord (paracord), but I've seen dummy cords made out of metal lockwire, 550 cord, multiple zip ties, you name it. I saw it a lot more on infantry regiment guns than on SF guns, though.Thanks for the explanation. |
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Originally Posted By DocApocalypse: I wish this were a better photo. "Alexandria Police Department SWAT, Lousiana, USA, 1996 period. You might notice the use of M203 grenade launchers on Colt Model 727 rifles, this was more or less common in 1990s SWATs, with M203s used for launching 40mm tear gas grenades." https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/271112/Gkvo7zGWYAApOQN_jpg-3475448.JPG I didn't take the time to look back through the entire thread. I may have posted this pic previously (looks familiar) but the caption that came with this version of it is very different from the caption when I posted it the first time IIRC. "US Navy serviceman using Colt 727 carbine with full-length M16 stock, 1996 period. Also note the use of early ACOG optic." https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/271112/Gkvm5syW8AEhfqU_jpg-3475444.JPG I built this after seeing the gun in the lower pic. I love full-stocked carbines. Attached File |
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Originally Posted By PAESAN: Forgive my ignorance, but what is the FDE (rubber?) ring between the delta ring and the receiver? 550 cord, guy wanted (support kid) wanted his sling point there. ie run sling thru 550 cord. |
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Originally Posted By DocApocalypse: US troops using Chicom AK chest rigs during the GWOT. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/271112/GlTansEW0AAO_zz_png-3482188.JPG Great pic from the early GWOT. Same body armor i had for my first deployment. Felt like a turtle shell and hot! Also pistol holster is a really crappy early nylon Blackhawk. Luckily changed to the Safariland in 2003. Modded DCU is still one of my favorites. |
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Originally Posted By Blanco_Diablo: Ahh got ya. Haven't seen that before, my bad! No worries, We're all here to learn. He'll learn that 550 cord melts when hot as he'll have to scrub it off! |
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Originally Posted By Combat_Diver: No worries, We're all here to learn. He'll learn that 550 cord melts when hot as he'll have to scrub it off! Originally Posted By Combat_Diver: Originally Posted By Blanco_Diablo: Ahh got ya. Haven't seen that before, my bad! No worries, We're all here to learn. He'll learn that 550 cord melts when hot as he'll have to scrub it off! I used to loop my silent sling there, too. I learned down the road that I could crank on the sling and VFG enough to loosen my bottom rail. I stopped looping it there.
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Originally Posted By Combat_Diver: No worries, We're all here to learn. He'll learn that 550 cord melts when hot as he'll have to scrub it off! Yeah really haha! I would see 550 looped around there for dummy cords and around the inside of the rail, lying against the barrel and always thought "well, he'll learn!"
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Early concept model of XM203 grenade launcher, seen fitted to XM177 5.56 Carbine. Attached File |
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Originally Posted By DocApocalypse: Early concept model of XM203 grenade launcher, seen fitted to XM177 5.56 Carbine. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/271112/IMG_20250322_135910_jpg-3497355.JPG That's cool. Is that also one of those early constant curve 30 round magazines? |
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Lessee....vertical foregrip on XM177E1 or E2...AK mag pouch...what's not to love? CSM “Bullet” Bobby Pruett Project Delta Recon CCC RT New York 1-0 Special Mission Force Recon Plt Leader Attached File |
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IDF Special Forces soldier in Lebanon, 1984. Attached File A Canadian JTF-2 operative accompanying Prime Minister Jean Chretien on a visit to Kabul, Afghanistan, 2003. Attached File An operative of the Canadian special forces unit "JTF-2" on the island of Haiti. 2000s. Attached File A county sheriff's officer stands guard outside a Florida nuclear power plant Nov. 2, 2001, amid heightened security following the 9/11 attacks. Attached File |
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Apart from Marines, which are main users of M933 Models in the Ukrainian military, the Colt M933 "Commando" 5.56 Carbine was also spotted used during training on the newly formed 151st Reconnaissance Strike Battalion Attached File |
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I know this pic has been posted before, many times in many forums, but you rarely see it with the description. US Navy SEAL armed with XM-4 5.56 Carbine during demonstration, 1993 period. Attached File |
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Originally Posted By DocApocalypse: I know this pic has been posted before, many times in many forums, but you rarely see it with the description. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/271112/GoCn3SPWsAAfz2__jpg-3511500.JPG Originally Posted By DocApocalypse: I know this pic has been posted before, many times in many forums, but you rarely see it with the description. US Navy SEAL armed with XM-4 5.56 Carbine during demonstration, 1993 period. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/271112/GoCn3SPWsAAfz2__jpg-3511500.JPG What is projecting off the front mounting ring of the M203? And where are the M203 sights? |
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Originally Posted By backbencher: What is projecting off the front mounting ring of the M203? And where are the M203 sights? Originally Posted By backbencher: Originally Posted By DocApocalypse: I know this pic has been posted before, many times in many forums, but you rarely see it with the description. US Navy SEAL armed with XM-4 5.56 Carbine during demonstration, 1993 period. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/271112/GoCn3SPWsAAfz2__jpg-3511500.JPG What is projecting off the front mounting ring of the M203? And where are the M203 sights? Unless I’m mistaken, that’s a 12” barrel M203 off a M16, before they went to a 9” barrel? Then again I could be completely wrong. |
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Originally Posted By backbencher: What is projecting off the front mounting ring of the M203? And where are the M203 sights? More then likely a uncut safety wire for the mount. Has quad sight for carrying handle somewhere in LBE, IDK? Trigger guard for 203 pushed too far up. |
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Originally Posted By Blanco_Diablo: Rifle barrel mounting ring for the 203. They're just using it on a M4 barrel. Probably before the QD carbine mount came out. https://i.ibb.co/F4XJdVkv/b8t916iwzvca1.jpg Originally Posted By Blanco_Diablo: Originally Posted By backbencher: What is projecting off the front mounting ring of the M203? And where are the M203 sights? Rifle barrel mounting ring for the 203. They're just using it on a M4 barrel. Probably before the QD carbine mount came out. https://i.ibb.co/F4XJdVkv/b8t916iwzvca1.jpg My apologies. |
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Originally Posted By backbencher: I literally asked what was projecting off the front mounting ring, not what the ring was. Combat Diver answered the question. Originally Posted By backbencher: Originally Posted By Blanco_Diablo: Originally Posted By backbencher: What is projecting off the front mounting ring of the M203? And where are the M203 sights? Rifle barrel mounting ring for the 203. They're just using it on a M4 barrel. Probably before the QD carbine mount came out. https://i.ibb.co/F4XJdVkv/b8t916iwzvca1.jpg I literally asked what was projecting off the front mounting ring, not what the ring was. Combat Diver answered the question. Blanco is correct, it's not safety wire. The older front brackets have a tongue, or tail, that points forward to index into the front hand guard cap. https://onyxarms.com/index.php/product/m203-barrel-mount-with-tail/  |
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Originally Posted By backbencher: I literally asked what was projecting off the front mounting ring, not what the ring was. Combat Diver answered the question. Lol and I literally answered and posted a pic of what you're asking about rifle mounting rings are made that way to index off the inside of the front handguard ring under the handguard.
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Originally Posted By Blanco_Diablo: Lol and I literally answered and posted a pic of what you're asking about rifle mounting rings are made that way to index off the inside of the front handguard ring under the handguard.Originally Posted By Blanco_Diablo: Originally Posted By backbencher: I literally asked what was projecting off the front mounting ring, not what the ring was. Combat Diver answered the question. Lol and I literally answered and posted a pic of what you're asking about rifle mounting rings are made that way to index off the inside of the front handguard ring under the handguard.I stand corrected. |
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Belize Defense Force trooper armed with a Colt M4A1 rifle, he is dressed in Russian EMR camouflage pattern. A small Caribbean nation of Belize adopted EMR as standard camouflage pattern in 2011. Attached File |
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Google AI can't be wrong (?) The SR-25K carbine was primarily used by US special operations forces, particularly those within the US Special Operations Command (SOCOM). It's worth noting that the SR-25 is also used by various other militaries and law enforcement agencies around the world, including the Navy SEALS and other special forces in the US. 1994 limited-production Knights Armament SR-25K carbine, 7.62 NATO Attached File |
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US serviceman from 101st in iraq with some weird 723 derivative. Russian PMC on his right. 25th ID with early leupold cqt   Scott Fales, USAF PJ in Somalia with some a2 carbine  Combat Controller Dan Schilling and his sideways mounted handguards on a 723 (i think for attaching accessories)  Early Sopmod configurations with both An-Peq2 (IR light) and An-Peq5 (Visible light) mounted, not uncommon at the time. Custom homemade cut helmet on the 2nd pic.  
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Originally Posted By DocApocalypse: Some pictures of XM320 40mm UBGL during the testing phase in the 2000s period. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/271112/Gow2LIcWMAAtcnJ_jpg-3519102.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/271112/Gow2LNvWAAAvucs_jpg-3519103.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/271112/Gow2LIhWQAAtcW6_jpg-3519105.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/271112/Gow2LNoXAAA33qo_jpg-3519106.JPG This Is One of the earliest Army advertising pictures, i think it's and Ag-c mounted on something like a 727 carbine. I dig the retro look.  |
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Originally Posted By DocApocalypse: I know this pic has been posted before, many times in many forums, but you rarely see it with the description. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/271112/GoCn3SPWsAAfz2__jpg-3511500.JPG That was not the official photo description. National archives offical description was: Naval Amphibious Base. A member of Navy Sea-Air-Land (SEAL) Team 5, sights in on a target with his M-4 carbine during a press demonstration. The rifle is equipped with an M-203 grenade launcher. https://nara.getarchive.net/media/naval-amphibious-base-a-member-of-navy-sea-air-land-seal-team-5-sights-in-on-f28311 |
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Originally Posted By DocApocalypse: Belize Defense Force trooper armed with a Colt M4A1 rifle, he is dressed in Russian EMR camouflage pattern. A small Caribbean nation of Belize adopted EMR as standard camouflage pattern in 2011. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/271112/GoMylTTWAAA_XsU_jpg-3513160.JPG mighty fine trigger discipline he's got there |
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