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Posted: 9/20/2012 9:17:23 PM EDT
| Got a problem with the finish on your new Colt? Want to talk about the finish on some other guy's Colt? This is the place for it. |
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I almost purchased an LE6920 FDE MOE model, to my disappointment all the copies my LGS had were marred up, nicked and had imperfections in the finish, to the point that I just couldn't get myself to throw down for an FDE, even though I really love that color. I really want to find an FDE for another build I want to do. And I plan on finding a good copy.
Instead I picked up a LE6920MPGG-B OD GREEN, and it was flawless, and am super happy with it, however. I still want to find a FDE COLT that is in great condition, maybe I will just order one from COLT on the basis that I want a perfect copy. Here is a close up pic of my OD GREEN finish.  " />
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| Alright I give up.........Last week i was dead set i was gonna build a rifle...This week I have found some good deals and was gonna buy one...decided today on a COLT.......now after reading this tread not sure...actually Im not sure im ever gonna get a rifle cuz everytime I think I have it figured out what i decide on is either sold out or I read something I dont like and change my mind |
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Originally Posted By DasBulk:
Nothing wrong with mine. I wasn't aware there was a trend that necessitated a dedicated thread either. There wasn't....there were two or three threads concerning this issue all on the front page of AR discussions at the same time, and I guess someone pissed in one of the mod's cereal that day because they all disappeared and now this is here. |
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Originally Posted By BSMITH8315:
Alright I give up.........Last week i was dead set i was gonna build a rifle...This week I have found some good deals and was gonna buy one...decided today on a COLT.......now after reading this tread not sure...actually Im not sure im ever gonna get a rifle cuz everytime I think I have it figured out what i decide on is either sold out or I read something I dont like and change my mind I recently inspected a new Colt at my local Walmart. The finish was perfect and the store employee was looking at me in a weird way. I don't think he ever saw anyone try so hard to find a blemish. |
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Originally Posted By www-glock19-com:
got another 308 in rifle #2 http://i48.tinypic.com/whnwi8.jpg http://i50.tinypic.com/2jca9op.jpg http://i45.tinypic.com/2mxj0c8.jpg http://i50.tinypic.com/2sanlg3.jpg http://i49.tinypic.com/2ljhz6o.jpg http://i45.tinypic.com/2i9mqsn.jpg http://i50.tinypic.com/b5iq94.jpg Seems to be "safe rash" |
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Originally Posted By Scuds03:
I don't see what the big deal is. Rifles are going to get knicks and scrapes when you use them anyway. If not then the kind of shooting you are doing you only need a $700 rifle to do. It's the same thing when buying tools. You don't spend a ton of $$$ on Snap On for scratched up tools and when you do it goes back on the truck. |
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Originally Posted By www-glock19-com:
got another 308 in rifle #2 http://i48.tinypic.com/whnwi8.jpg http://i50.tinypic.com/2jca9op.jpg http://i45.tinypic.com/2mxj0c8.jpg http://i50.tinypic.com/2sanlg3.jpg http://i49.tinypic.com/2ljhz6o.jpg http://i45.tinypic.com/2i9mqsn.jpg http://i50.tinypic.com/b5iq94.jpg you do realize they test fire all guns extensively from the factory. Beware the rifle maker who gives you a pristine rifle with zero use, it means they didnt test fire it. Last I checked, guns were made to be used, not fondled and displayed in a museum. |
So you are saying God hates these endangered ducks?
No, I am just saying that if God liked ducks they wouldn't be endangered.
No, I am just saying that if God liked ducks they wouldn't be endangered.
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Originally Posted By Dace: Originally Posted By www-glock19-com: got another 308 in rifle #2 http://i48.tinypic.com/whnwi8.jpg http://i50.tinypic.com/2jca9op.jpg http://i45.tinypic.com/2mxj0c8.jpg http://i50.tinypic.com/2sanlg3.jpg http://i49.tinypic.com/2ljhz6o.jpg http://i45.tinypic.com/2i9mqsn.jpg http://i50.tinypic.com/b5iq94.jpg you do realize they test fire all guns extensively from the factory. Beware the rifle maker who gives you a pristine rifle with zero use, it means they didnt test fire it. Last I checked, guns were made to be used, not fondled and displayed in a museum. What's that got to do with a dinged up rail? |
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Originally Posted By Aimless:
Originally Posted By Dace:
Originally Posted By www-glock19-com:
got another 308 in rifle #2 http://i48.tinypic.com/whnwi8.jpg http://i50.tinypic.com/2jca9op.jpg http://i45.tinypic.com/2mxj0c8.jpg http://i50.tinypic.com/2sanlg3.jpg http://i49.tinypic.com/2ljhz6o.jpg http://i45.tinypic.com/2i9mqsn.jpg http://i50.tinypic.com/b5iq94.jpg you do realize they test fire all guns extensively from the factory. Beware the rifle maker who gives you a pristine rifle with zero use, it means they didnt test fire it. Last I checked, guns were made to be used, not fondled and displayed in a museum. What's that got to do with a dinged up rail? My question would be does the rail still do what it is supposed to do? Do the dings take away from performance at all? |
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Originally Posted By Aimless:
Originally Posted By Dace:
Originally Posted By www-glock19-com:
got another 308 in rifle #2 http://i48.tinypic.com/whnwi8.jpg http://i50.tinypic.com/2jca9op.jpg http://i45.tinypic.com/2mxj0c8.jpg http://i50.tinypic.com/2sanlg3.jpg http://i49.tinypic.com/2ljhz6o.jpg http://i45.tinypic.com/2i9mqsn.jpg http://i50.tinypic.com/b5iq94.jpg you do realize they test fire all guns extensively from the factory. Beware the rifle maker who gives you a pristine rifle with zero use, it means they didnt test fire it. Last I checked, guns were made to be used, not fondled and displayed in a museum. What's that got to do with a dinged up rail? You posted picture of the BCG as if it was a bad thing. Sorry, I dont see any issue with any of the pictures you posted. |
So you are saying God hates these endangered ducks?
No, I am just saying that if God liked ducks they wouldn't be endangered.
No, I am just saying that if God liked ducks they wouldn't be endangered.
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Originally Posted By Scuds03:
Originally Posted By Aimless:
Originally Posted By Dace:
Originally Posted By www-glock19-com:
got another 308 in rifle #2 http://i48.tinypic.com/whnwi8.jpg http://i50.tinypic.com/2jca9op.jpg http://i45.tinypic.com/2mxj0c8.jpg http://i50.tinypic.com/2sanlg3.jpg http://i49.tinypic.com/2ljhz6o.jpg http://i45.tinypic.com/2i9mqsn.jpg http://i50.tinypic.com/b5iq94.jpg you do realize they test fire all guns extensively from the factory. Beware the rifle maker who gives you a pristine rifle with zero use, it means they didnt test fire it. Last I checked, guns were made to be used, not fondled and displayed in a museum. What's that got to do with a dinged up rail? My question would be does the rail still do what it is supposed to do? Do the dings take away from performance at all? Of course it still works. But some people are more concerned about having a pretty rifle to take pictures of. Hence this thread... I dont see any issue with some small cosmetic flaws that would appear the first time the rifle is used in any class or any hard range day. |
So you are saying God hates these endangered ducks?
No, I am just saying that if God liked ducks they wouldn't be endangered.
No, I am just saying that if God liked ducks they wouldn't be endangered.
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Originally Posted By Scuds03: Nope doesn't effect performance in any way however , This is a brand new rifle that we are supposed to sell , it is up to the future owner of the rifle if it will be a safe queen collectors item or a tool Originally Posted By Aimless: Originally Posted By Dace: Originally Posted By www-glock19-com: got another 308 in rifle #2 http://i48.tinypic.com/whnwi8.jpg http://i50.tinypic.com/2jca9op.jpg http://i45.tinypic.com/2mxj0c8.jpg http://i50.tinypic.com/2sanlg3.jpg http://i49.tinypic.com/2ljhz6o.jpg http://i45.tinypic.com/2i9mqsn.jpg http://i50.tinypic.com/b5iq94.jpg you do realize they test fire all guns extensively from the factory. Beware the rifle maker who gives you a pristine rifle with zero use, it means they didnt test fire it. Last I checked, guns were made to be used, not fondled and displayed in a museum. What's that got to do with a dinged up rail? My question would be does the rail still do what it is supposed to do? Do the dings take away from performance at all? would you buy a new pickup with a dinged up bed and accept the answer meh, it'll get dinged up anyway when ya haul something or go off road I only posted these because it was multiple damage on the same rifle virtually every Colt we get has tool marks and parts that have obviously been whacked together , so just one or 2 marks would not even be noteworthy every other manufacturer can some how build and ship firearms without significant damage except for Colt |
Originally Posted By broken_reticle:
To me $300 is pretty damn cheap for sodomy insurance.
To me $300 is pretty damn cheap for sodomy insurance.
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Originally Posted By Scuds03:
Originally Posted By Aimless:
Originally Posted By Dace:
Originally Posted By www-glock19-com:
got another 308 in rifle #2 http://i48.tinypic.com/whnwi8.jpg http://i50.tinypic.com/2jca9op.jpg http://i45.tinypic.com/2mxj0c8.jpg http://i50.tinypic.com/2sanlg3.jpg http://i49.tinypic.com/2ljhz6o.jpg http://i45.tinypic.com/2i9mqsn.jpg http://i50.tinypic.com/b5iq94.jpg you do realize they test fire all guns extensively from the factory. Beware the rifle maker who gives you a pristine rifle with zero use, it means they didnt test fire it. Last I checked, guns were made to be used, not fondled and displayed in a museum. What's that got to do with a dinged up rail? My question would be does the rail still do what it is supposed to do? Do the dings take away from performance at all? When you buy a new car or a new motorcycle and it has dings on the fenders and scratches in the paint do you just say, "no problem, does not affect performance."? |
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Originally Posted By www-glock19-com:
Originally Posted By Scuds03:
Nope doesn't effect performance in any way however , This is a brand new rifle that we are supposed to sell , it is up to the future owner of the rifle if it will be a safe queen collectors item or a tool
Originally Posted By Aimless:
Originally Posted By Dace:
Originally Posted By www-glock19-com:
got another 308 in rifle #2 http://i48.tinypic.com/whnwi8.jpg http://i50.tinypic.com/2jca9op.jpg http://i45.tinypic.com/2mxj0c8.jpg http://i50.tinypic.com/2sanlg3.jpg http://i49.tinypic.com/2ljhz6o.jpg http://i45.tinypic.com/2i9mqsn.jpg http://i50.tinypic.com/b5iq94.jpg you do realize they test fire all guns extensively from the factory. Beware the rifle maker who gives you a pristine rifle with zero use, it means they didnt test fire it. Last I checked, guns were made to be used, not fondled and displayed in a museum. What's that got to do with a dinged up rail? My question would be does the rail still do what it is supposed to do? Do the dings take away from performance at all? would you buy a new pickup with a dinged up bed and accept the answer meh, it'll get dinged up anyway when ya haul something or go off road I only posted these because it was multiple damage on the same rifle virtually every Colt we get has tool marks and parts that have obviously been whacked together , so just one or 2 marks would not even be noteworthy every other manufacturer can some how build and ship firearms without significant damage except for Colt If you know Colts notoriously come with tool marks and "every other manufacturer can some how build and ship firearms without significant damage except for Colt", why don't you just not buy from Colt and buy from every other manufacturer instead? |
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When you buy a new car or a new motorcycle and it has dings on the fenders and scratches in the paint do you just say, "no problem, does not affect performance."? Depends. If say truck manufacturer A makes really pretty looking trucks but they break down all the time and truck manufactuer B trucks perform better without breaking down but tend to come with minor cosmetic flaws, I'd spend my money based on what is important to me. Do I care more about staring at my truck in the parking lot? Or do I care about going out and having fun with it and using it for what it was made to do? It all boils down to if you know Colt doesn't make pretty rifles and all you care about is cosmetics, don't give them your money. |
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Let's not turn this thread into the usual "fit and finish"/"guns are tools" pissing match.
Let the people who care about their finishes concentrate all of their complaining in this one thread, and not get it locked due to arguments. That way, they have their place to hang out and talk about how egregious Colt's fit and finish are, and the rest of us simply know to avoid the thread, and/or have someplace to go for a laugh once in a while, and perhaps it will quelch the neverending series of "oh my god, Becky, look at her butt those scratches," threads. ~Augee |
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Originally Posted By Augee:
Let's not turn this thread into the usual "fit and finish"/"guns are tools" pissing match. Let the people who care about their finishes concentrate all of their complaining in this one thread, and not get it locked due to arguments. That way, they have their place to hang out and talk about how egregious Colt's fit and finish are, and the rest of us simply know to avoid the thread, and/or have someplace to go for a laugh once in a while, and perhaps it will quelch the neverending series of "oh my god, Becky, look at her butt those scratches," threads. ~Augee As usual, you are right. 
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My brand new 6920. Came with some dings here and there, and the upper has few rough spots
Look at the marking. Only half of the letter "O" in HARDFORT is stamped on the gun. I wonder how can this happen. FYI, I love this gun and don't really mind the rough finish. http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/5175/3hwj.jpg |
| Seriously?!... Start painting your nails if that kind of prissiness is necessary. A Colt is a rifle meant for business, not for posturing. Not pretty enough for ya... Buy some other brand. A little wear on a new rifle tells me it has been tested and was intended to take a beating. Flawless sample=untested collectible meant for the posers. YMMV |
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Originally Posted By ShrubmasterM4A3:
Seriously?!... Start painting your nails if that kind of prissiness is necessary. A Colt is a rifle meant for business, not for posturing. Not pretty enough for ya... Buy some other brand. A little wear on a new rifle tells me it has been tested and was intended to take a beating. Flawless sample=untested collectible meant for the posers. YMMV Seriously?!... Start opening your eyes and read my entire post before replying with your worthless contribution. You might notice the part when I say "FYI, I love this gun and don't really mind the rough finish". |
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Originally Posted By ShrubmasterM4A3: Seriously?!... Start painting your nails if that kind of prissiness is necessary. A Colt is a rifle meant for business, not for posturing. Not pretty enough for ya... Buy some other brand. A little wear on a new rifle tells me it has been tested and was intended to take a beating. Flawless sample=untested collectible meant for the posers. YMMV I have found that most of the guys that pay their hard earned money for a scuffed up rifle, it gives them a gratified feeling of being like an operator. A test fired rifle is one thing, but unless they are playing operator with the rifle there is no need to send out a scuffed up NIB rifle. If I pay money for a new rifle I prefer it look reasonably new when I get it out of the box. Function still supercedes but who buys a brand new car with a keyed door or hood and says "it's new it still functions great" and pays new price. If you are an operator I bet it doesn't matter. Not sure all that are posting they are fine with scuffs as long as it functions are operators. Maybe I am mistaken though, LOL. At any rate I passed on last colt I saw at Walmart and built from scratch. Part of the reason was small nics. YMMV
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Originally Posted By kevin1:
Originally Posted By ShrubmasterM4A3:
Seriously?!... Start painting your nails if that kind of prissiness is necessary. A Colt is a rifle meant for business, not for posturing. Not pretty enough for ya... Buy some other brand. A little wear on a new rifle tells me it has been tested and was intended to take a beating. Flawless sample=untested collectible meant for the posers. YMMV Seriously?!... Start opening your eyes and read my entire post before replying with your worthless contribution. You might notice the part when I say "FYI, I love this gun and don't really mind the rough finish". First... my post was not meant to be a personal jab at any one poster. Rather, I meant to say that some guys make a bigger deal out of fit/finish than necessary. The rifle is a tool designed to be used in environments where nicks and finish wear occur almost immediately. The comparison to buying a new car/truck is invalid. A better comparison would be like buying a new fishing lure. Does it matter if theres a small scratch on a new bass lure? No. The reason is because it will get scratched the first time you use it anyway and has no bearing on how well it works. As for the implication of folks wanting to be operators... Define "operator". I dont jump out of helicopters into combat zones. I am an LEO and my rifle does get banged around going in and out of my car, knocked around on walls while slung and Im handling other tasks, and it comes in contact wih gravel when prone firing on the range. I understand wanting things that look nice but when I see a guy with a pristine looking rifle I feel confident assuming that he doesnt run that rifle for its intended purpose. Its like buying a huge truck with a 6" lift, a set of super swampers and a full on assortment of off road goodies then never taking it off of the paved roads. Pure posturing for the sake of looking cool IMHO. |
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Originally Posted By ShrubmasterM4A3:
Originally Posted By kevin1:
Originally Posted By ShrubmasterM4A3:
Seriously?!... Start painting your nails if that kind of prissiness is necessary. A Colt is a rifle meant for business, not for posturing. Not pretty enough for ya... Buy some other brand. A little wear on a new rifle tells me it has been tested and was intended to take a beating. Flawless sample=untested collectible meant for the posers. YMMV Seriously?!... Start opening your eyes and read my entire post before replying with your worthless contribution. You might notice the part when I say "FYI, I love this gun and don't really mind the rough finish". First... my post was not meant to be a personal jab at any one poster. Rather, I meant to say that some guys make a bigger deal out of fit/finish than necessary. The rifle is a tool designed to be used in environments where nicks and finish wear occur almost immediately. The comparison to buying a new car/truck is invalid. A better comparison would be like buying a new fishing lure. Does it matter if theres a small scratch on a new bass lure? No. The reason is because it will get scratched the first time you use it anyway and has no bearing on how well it works. As for the implication of folks wanting to be operators... Define "operator". I dont jump out of helicopters into combat zones. I am an LEO and my rifle does get banged around going in and out of my car, knocked around on walls while slung and Im handling other tasks, and it comes in contact wih gravel when prone firing on the range. I understand wanting things that look nice but when I see a guy with a pristine looking rifle I feel confident assuming that he doesnt run that rifle for its intended purpose. Its like buying a huge truck with a 6" lift, a set of super swampers and a full on assortment of off road goodies then never taking it off of the paved roads. Pure posturing for the sake of looking cool IMHO. Small misunderstanding as I thought you were targeting my specific post. Sorry for my rough reply. |
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Originally Posted By arjohnson:
I have a NIB 6920 FDE and the fit and finish are flawless. <a href="http://smg.photobucket.com/user/arjohnson/media/106_1306.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v441/arjohnson/106_1306.jpg</a> <a href="http://smg.photobucket.com/user/arjohnson/media/106_1303.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v441/arjohnson/106_1303.jpg</a> <a href="http://smg.photobucket.com/user/arjohnson/media/106_1301.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v441/arjohnson/106_1301.jpg</a> This isn't the FDE model. Maybe the MPG-OD model? I'm under the impression the finish is usually better on non black Colts. http://www.coltsmfg.com/Catalog/ColtRifles/ColtLE6920Series.aspx |
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