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10/28/2025 9:23:31 AM EDT
I'm in the process of acquiring parts for a c7 clone.  I was watching a Canadian military video about training on the rifle.  

I saw some rifles had big buttons and others had regular button a2 style forward assist.  I'm going to try and find and big button just more fun.  

But the sights I have a question on.  Its appears they used and a2 aperture on an a1 sight set up is that accurate?  Also the front sight appeared to have a round post not a square one.  

One more question on the sling what model sling would have been used by Canadian forces via 1985?  

Thanks.
10/28/2025 9:58:38 AM EDT
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I use A2 rear apertures on all but my retro stuff(6series).  The C7 is in the A2 family(7series) and was developed at the same time as the USMC was working on the A2(Canadians were at least read into the program if not directly involved in it), I would imagine they saw the benefit of the swap but I can't say for 100% certainty they did. @Augee @coldblue might could elaborate further.

From my internetz research(take that for what its worth) Diemaco adopted a two point nylon sling with polymer buckle slides made by RTI/accupro in 1984 and still issue it today.

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Note the detachable carry handle, this is a C7A1(most likely) or A2 and is different from a US carry handle because it still uses the A1 style drum("field sight").

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Link for legit surplus slings for those interested(not affiliated, for information purposes)

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I'm using Magpul two point basic slings as a stand in for now because theyre durable and very similar in appearance, I may just order 5 or 6 and pay the tariff/duties.


@Aimless @Zhukov @BushBoar please tack the archived C7 information thread.  I've IM'd most of the mods trying to get this tacked without success(or any reply for that matter).
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10/28/2025 10:49:17 AM EDT
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Thanks.  Great post.  I'm really digging building this early c7 clone.  

Any other details of parts that are different on a c7 verses an m16a2?  

Did I catch them all.  A2 rear sight apt.  Round front sight post.  I'm going to use a large button f/a.  Its period correct plus it's a bit different.  

I saw a few c7's in the video with large button f/a.  I'm going to buy that sling you posted.  Thanks.
10/28/2025 11:12:56 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By 57man:
Thanks.  Great post.  I'm really digging building this early c7 clone.  

Any other details of parts that are different on a c7 verses an m16a2?  

Did I catch them all.  A2 rear sight apt.  Round front sight post.  I'm going to use a large button f/a.  Its period correct plus it's a bit different.  

I saw a few c7's in the video with large button f/a.  I'm going to buy that sling you posted.  Thanks.
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I have a big button FA on my C7, if you're using a A2 lower you'll need a "D" button which is clearanced so it won't hit the lower when depressed.

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The biggest difference is the upper, but if you really want to clone with max autism applied you need a CS stock(good luck) and all the "D"(Diemaco) parts you can find to include the receivers(unobtanium).

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C7 used a different polymer for the furniture claiming it to be more durable, a "fat style" A2 grip not the current ones, and the RTI sling.
*NOT MY PIC, PULLED FROM THE ARCHIVED THREAD*
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If you want a good stand in for the CS LuthAR makes a A1 length stock w/A2 door, I have one on order.
Also, the C7 stuck with the 6 series trigger(Safe/Semi/Auto) and skipped the goofy Burst mechanism so if you have a FRT that would be "correct" to me.(might rustle some jimmies but whatever)
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10/28/2025 11:32:32 AM EDT
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Archived C7/C8 Reference thread

I've been trying to get this thread tacked without success, its the ultimate reference and what I've been using to assemble my clones.
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10/28/2025 11:16:13 PM EDT
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Thanks for the heads up on the big button "d" modified f/a.  Never even occurred to me.  

I'm using an a2 lower.  So that's not going to fly.  I guess I'll use a regular f/a.  

Also the luth short a2 shock that's clone correct?
10/29/2025 8:16:46 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By 57man:
Thanks for the heads up on the big button "d" modified f/a.  Never even occurred to me.  

I'm using an a2 lower.  So that's not going to fly.  I guess I'll use a regular f/a.  

Also the luth short a2 shock that's clone correct?
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Yes, its the same length/buttplate as a CS without the CS marking
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10/29/2025 11:28:14 PM EDT
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In the Canadian train videos I watched they had an a2 aperture on the a1 style sight assembly.  

Would you now anything about that?
10/30/2025 12:06:31 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By 57man:
Thanks for the heads up on the big button "d" modified f/a.  Never even occurred to me.  

I'm using an a2 lower.  So that's not going to fly.  I guess I'll use a regular f/a.  

Also the luth short a2 shock that's clone correct?
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Wasn’t the D cut f/a done so it would work with the A2 receiver?
10/30/2025 1:22:31 PM EDT
[Last Edit: mech4matsnova][Edited] [#9]
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Originally Posted By 57man:
In the Canadian train videos I watched they had an a2 aperture on the a1 style sight assembly.  

Would you now anything about that?
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I can't find a source that specifies which aperture the C7 uses.  I have A2 apertures(0-2) in all my carry handles with the exception of my two 6 series(603/629) because I prefer them for practical shooting.

I know that all the A1/A2s with the detachable rear sight all use A1 type sight wheels with A2 like apertures, I've yet to see a true A2 aperture though, it looks like a standard A1 aperture with the "L" aperture opened to the 0-2 spec, I've not seen a actual 0-2 marked aperture on a C7 of any variant(see the 2nd pic below).

Also, the sight body is polymer on the A1/A2s.



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10/30/2025 1:30:28 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Dakota_Don:

Wasn’t the D cut f/a done so it would work with the A2 receiver?
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Yes, the full large round will only work with a A1 lower without the rear reinforcement.
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11/2/2025 10:18:31 AM EDT
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I believe at some point the Canucks used a unique forward assist.

Looks like the large round Colt one, but turned down to the same diameter as the current F/A, probably to clear A2 lowers.

There are pics in the untacked C7 Thread


11/11/2025 11:07:53 PM EDT
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For the life of me I can’t understand why the mods won’t tack the reference thread. This forum is lame with BHD and BD clones but here’s an interesting take on A2 variants and it’s invisible. I put a ton of time into it to help other members, and similar photo-based threads have been tacked in multiple sub forums.
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11/11/2025 11:14:01 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By C2Installs:
For the life of me I can’t u sees tabs why the mods won’t tack the reference thread. This forum is lame with BHD and BD clones but here’s an interesting take on A2 variants and it’s invisible. I put a ton of time into it to help other members, and similar photo-based threads have been tacked in multiple sub forums.
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I've messaged and tagged just about every tech and big mod I can think of with no reply.  Not happy about it either...
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11/19/2025 4:00:43 PM EDT
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12/9/2025 2:59:11 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Leg][Edited] [#15]
The majority of stocks (default) were A2 length. The shorter CS stock was A1 length and was available to those that needed or wanted a shorter length of pull. There was also a spacer available for those that needed a longer LOP.
12/9/2025 3:33:27 PM EDT
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12/9/2025 8:07:44 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By mech4matsnova:


I've messaged and tagged just about every tech and big mod I can think of with no reply.  Not happy about it either...
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Originally Posted By mech4matsnova:
Originally Posted By C2Installs:
For the life of me I can't u sees tabs why the mods won't tack the reference thread. This forum is lame with BHD and BD clones but here's an interesting take on A2 variants and it's invisible. I put a ton of time into it to help other members, and similar photo-based threads have been tacked in multiple sub forums.


I've messaged and tagged just about every tech and big mod I can think of with no reply.  Not happy about it either...
I don't think staff or mods can pull stuff out of the archive, but they certainly could have pinned it or set it to not archive.

@Stylz @NvrBrdWes - is there any chance that this thread can be resurrected and pinned in the A2 forum?

https://www.ar15.com/forums/AR-15/Canadian-Forces-C7-C8-Series-Reference-Thread-PLEASE-TACK-THIS-MODS-/127-785829/
12/9/2025 11:36:36 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By grondike:
I don't think staff or mods can pull stuff out of the archive, but they certainly could have pinned it or set it to not archive.

@Stylz @NvrBrdWes - is there any chance that this thread can be resurrected and pinned in the A2 forum?

https://www.ar15.com/forums/AR-15/Canadian-Forces-C7-C8-Series-Reference-Thread-PLEASE-TACK-THIS-MODS-/127-785829/
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I can petition GB. Bringing something out of Archive is beyond even admin
12/10/2025 6:44:58 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By NvrBrdWes:

I can petition GB. Bringing something out of Archive is beyond even admin
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Originally Posted By NvrBrdWes:
Originally Posted By grondike:
I don't think staff or mods can pull stuff out of the archive, but they certainly could have pinned it or set it to not archive.

@Stylz @NvrBrdWes - is there any chance that this thread can be resurrected and pinned in the A2 forum?

https://www.ar15.com/forums/AR-15/Canadian-Forces-C7-C8-Series-Reference-Thread-PLEASE-TACK-THIS-MODS-/127-785829/

I can petition GB. Bringing something out of Archive is beyond even admin
Thanks - we would greatly appreciate it!

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