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5/21/2026 2:28:26 AM EDT
What is the smallest buis, giving the most clearance for an optic/acog?
Seems like the kac micro or the arms 40l?
And yes, buis is not needed, and yes, you can put it in front of the optic.
But having the acog too far back makes it harder to work the charge handle anyhow.
5/21/2026 5:57:54 AM EDT
[Last Edit: JoeDevola][Edited] [#1]
Matech is good, got one on a rifle w/ LPVO.

Best I have is a Diamondhead, folds very flat, sits perfectly under a PA 2.5x ACSS, which has t mount far back due to short eye relief.

Perfect setup.
5/21/2026 6:41:29 AM EDT
[#2]
MI combat folding has a very low profile.
5/21/2026 7:13:33 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 11b4v][Edited] [#3]
Look at Griffin Armament Mk2 BUIS.  

Mk2 BUIS
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5/21/2026 7:15:06 AM EDT
[Last Edit: scottrh2][Edited] [#4]
Originally Posted By HBPredhunter:
What is the smallest buis, giving the most clearance for an optic/acog?
Seems like the kac micro or the arms 40l?
And yes, buis is not needed, and yes, you can put it in front of the optic.
But having the acog too far back makes it harder to work the charge handle anyhow.
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Grab and pinch the handle from the side, no need in rooting up under the optic to pull the CH.
KAC micro is super small as is the Magpul Pro.
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5/21/2026 7:48:51 AM EDT
[Last Edit: ScoutH57][Edited] [#5]
The newest Magpul MBUS 3s are pretty slimmed down and the price is right.

I have one under a Ta31


ETA: I forgot my Ta31 is on an ADM mount. It’s probably slightly higher than a TA51 mount
5/21/2026 8:15:08 AM EDT
[#6]
Have you looked at the kram? It alows a little more flexibility with buis and eye relief
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5/21/2026 9:57:51 AM EDT
[#7]
MI combat sights
KAC 300
5/21/2026 10:15:12 AM EDT
[#8]
Bobro Lowriders are ridiculously low profile but not terribly robust. Perfect BUIS for a scoped rifle.

Looks like they stopped making them.
5/21/2026 10:21:27 AM EDT
[Last Edit: PistoleroJesse][Edited] [#9]
Griffin made some Fail Safe sights back in the day. My son and I like them for his light weight build with a PA 5x. I don't think they make them any more @Green0?

5/21/2026 3:20:38 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Green0][Edited] [#10]
A guy didn't like them and told us that at Shot show maybe 10 years ago.  I don't think they infringed any IP, because his patent pertained to use of M16-A2 sight parts in specific bases that accepted M16 sight components, but we decided to stop selling them and went a different direction with the product into the current M2 sights that fold.  They have a smaller footprint than the original fail safe sights.
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5/22/2026 1:44:41 PM EDT
[Last Edit: RMC51][Edited] [#11]
Take a look at a GDI R-com B-model mount for a ACOG. It will be high enough for a Mbus 2
https://gdiusa.co/scope-mounts#trijicon

And a BCM® Asymmetric MK2 Charging Handle - Large Latch
https://bravocompanyusa.com/bcm-asymmetric-mk2-charging-handle-large-latch-5-56mm-223/

Seems to work well for a right hander, the lever is large enough you can brush right along the ACOG and catch the CH
5/22/2026 2:28:39 PM EDT
[#12]
Knights 300m rear
5/23/2026 3:01:24 PM EDT
[#13]
The MBUS Pro is very flat, but the 3's have slimmed down a lot as well.
5/23/2026 4:03:39 PM EDT
[#14]
Kram 9.0 plus a cheap kac usmc sight. Pairs with a matech well too, but the kac is smaller under the kram mount. Can't recommend the kram enough tho. Really brings the acog back for a proper sight picture.
5/26/2026 11:17:37 PM EDT
[#15]
GG&G MAD is pretty flat.

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5/27/2026 1:10:40 PM EDT
[#16]
Magpul pro, KAC Micros, Griffin Armament are all good options. The MBUS gen3s I think are designed to be slimmer but not quite as slim as the pros.
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5/27/2026 1:44:01 PM EDT
[#17]
40L
5/27/2026 1:55:01 PM EDT
[#18]
Midwest Industries combat sights are the lowest profile I've used. When flipped down, they only stick up above the rail about 1/4" or so. Excellent sights!
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6/12/2026 12:21:00 PM EDT
[#19]
I use Hahn Precision for those same reasons.

https://hahn-precision.com/ar-15-buis-rear/

6/15/2026 6:52:38 AM EDT
[#20]
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Originally Posted By 11b4v:
Look at Griffin Armament Mk2 BUIS.  

Mk2 BUIS
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I’m a big fan of these personally.
6/16/2026 8:31:25 PM EDT
[#21]
I’m an MBUS Pro guy, myself.
6/17/2026 12:44:47 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Frens][Edited] [#22]
Almost any Buis will fit under an Acog.
The Matech will fit just fine and it’s one of the bulkiest buis out there


That being said, kac for me
6/17/2026 1:31:07 PM EDT
[#23]
Bobro has the Lowrider Backup Iron Sights too which are very low profile
6/17/2026 2:25:35 PM EDT
[Last Edit: GalloRosso][Edited] [#24]
My go to for a low pro rear BUIS was always the KAC 300, but the last rifles we got at work had MBUS Pros and I really liked them.

I tried out the Scalarworks rear recently, and while I like their mounts, didn't care for the rear sight. I think they could have done a better job with the adjustment knob and then made the sight base  a little flatter.



6/21/2026 2:55:25 PM EDT
[#25]
KAC Micro works for me.  The Matech was too tall, with a KRAM + Browe.
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