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2/20/2021 12:13:05 PM EDT
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These are my favorite barrels. I have been using one in competition for a few years now, never had any issues. That rifle is pretty beat up at this point. Its a 16" non-chf with a 15" mcmr around it. Been run with a few different suppressors too. Running the fde bcg too.
2/20/2021 12:54:56 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By samuse:


Most? Maybe, but not all.

I had one that was pretty wild with most ammo.

I did my best to copy a Mon evaluation and I think I did pretty good. IIRC it was around 8MOA with M193 about 5 with MK262, about 3 with ADI 69, and about 2 with 55gr SBK and that load only.
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Yeah it that particular case is really bad, I would go as far as to say something was wrong with that barrel.

3 MOA with M193 is what I would except.
2/20/2021 11:03:12 PM EDT
[#3]
Molon thread
Independent forever
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2/21/2021 4:00:57 AM EDT
[#4]
Where did you find ammo?
2/21/2021 4:59:35 AM EDT
[#5]
He's back!! Woop woop!!!
2/21/2021 5:15:56 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By borderpatrol:
I think I can speak for the entire AR15.com community when I say, YOU WERE MISSED!

Welcome home.
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This. Welcome back
2/21/2021 8:48:55 PM EDT
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ever wonder why bcm never makes a viedo of all there stuff being mfg in there factory ?????????? because they dont manf. anything i bet !!!!!!!!!!!!!! there just the middle person in the chain i bet........
2/21/2021 8:54:21 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By BCOWANWHEELS:
ever wonder why bcm never makes a viedo of all there stuff being mfg in there factory ?????????? because they dont manf. anything i bet !!!!!!!!!!!!!! there just the middle person in the chain i bet........
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COLT DOESN’T MAKE ANYTHING EITHER AND I HEARD THEY WERE PRETTY GOOD!!
2/22/2021 11:35:34 PM EDT
[#9]
Great.  I have a BCM 18" SS KMR complete upper that won't shoot that well so I'm basically stoked as F right now!
2/22/2021 11:42:58 PM EDT
[#10]
I’m no fan of BCM chrome lined barrels but I’ve had a few of their stainless ones too, and holy shit...  They were awesome.  

My last one was a 1/7.7” KD4 and it LOVED 77gr SMKs
2/25/2021 9:44:01 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Molon:


Funny you should ask.  I've been waiting for months for Criterion to have a 16" CORE barrel in stock so that I can do an accuracy evaluation of one.  Their website says "ON BACK ORDER, ETA APRIL/MAY 2021".


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Originally Posted By Molon:
Originally Posted By Jonny1904:

@Molon, any chance that you might have a Criterion Core to test at all?



Funny you should ask.  I've been waiting for months for Criterion to have a 16" CORE barrel in stock so that I can do an accuracy evaluation of one.  Their website says "ON BACK ORDER, ETA APRIL/MAY 2021".


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Looking forward to seeing those results whenever it happens. Good to see you back, Molon!!
Perico y Tuga por vida. Siempre te voy amar.
2/25/2021 10:31:51 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By BCOWANWHEELS:
ever wonder why bcm never makes a viedo of all there stuff being mfg in there factory ?????????? because they dont manf. anything i bet !!!!!!!!!!!!!! there just the middle person in the chain i bet........
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This is common knowledge that they don’t hide.
2/25/2021 10:33:43 PM EDT
[#13]
MOLON-

Thanks and good shooting!
2/25/2021 10:36:06 PM EDT
[#14]
Thanks. Nice to see you back.
I survived the cockpocalypse of 11/21/2012.
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2/26/2021 12:16:40 AM EDT
[#15]
Great post OP...!

I have this barrel in a spare AR I recently rattle canned.

Handy rifle and very capable.

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2/26/2021 10:59:14 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Glock9mm1990:

Most of those complaints are because they use shit ammo and wonder why their accuracy is meh. Or they just can’t shoot for shit and blame the rifle.
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That is not true.

Not to sidetrack the subject of the thread, but I have a 14.5" BFH Pencil that shoots really well, and the BCM I ordered after that was a 12.5" standard (both non-FF, FSB).

It was not acceptably accurate. No matter how much I did my part, it did not even group well at 50m. I confirmed this with another skilled shooter before I sold it off.

The complaints are definitely founded.
2/28/2021 7:27:58 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By HighpowerRifleBrony:

This was a quick look. We're due another 20 rounds.

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Exactly!

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3/1/2021 7:58:00 AM EDT
[#18]
Thanks for the write up!  I always enjoy your evaluations.

Great to see you back!
3/3/2021 2:46:48 AM EDT
[#19]
To be honest, I’m surprised that the barrel shot that well.
Perico y Tuga por vida. Siempre te voy amar.
3/3/2021 7:43:39 PM EDT
[#20]
I have a 14.5 elw bf from 7 years ago and am able to shoot 1 moa with 77g federal match.
3/3/2021 10:25:58 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Optimal:
I have a 14.5 elw bf from 7 years ago and am able to shoot 1 moa with 77g federal match.
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3-shot groups? Just kidding.
Perico y Tuga por vida. Siempre te voy amar.
3/4/2021 12:53:40 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By urbankaos04:


3-shot groups? Just kidding.
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Was able to accomplish this with Winchester 193 as well a few times
3/4/2021 2:09:25 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Optimal:

Was able to accomplish this with Winchester 193 as well a few times.
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Originally Posted By Optimal:
Originally Posted By urbankaos04:

3-shot groups? Just kidding.

Was able to accomplish this with Winchester 193 as well a few times.
30% of the time it works 100% of the time.
3/5/2021 12:32:26 AM EDT
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Being able to shoot 1 moa with 2 moa ammo is pretty good. Maybe I am mistaken but is bcm barrels presicion . Im confused..
3/5/2021 12:55:48 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By borderpatrol:
I think I can speak for the entire AR15.com community when I say, YOU WERE MISSED!

Welcome home.
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This.
Fundamentally the marksman aims at himself.
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5/21/2021 5:32:40 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By MONGO45:


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Nice job on the rattle can!
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9/30/2021 9:46:30 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By samuse:


The only reason they’re average is because some shoot really good, and some suck.  

I’ve had enough of both that I pretty much stick with Colt barrels anymore.  Whatever they do, they always shoot.  
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Originally Posted By samuse:
Originally Posted By Donster_125:
Interesting.

Really casts doubt on the classic “average” accuracy claims generally associated with BCM.



The only reason they’re average is because some shoot really good, and some suck.  

I’ve had enough of both that I pretty much stick with Colt barrels anymore.  Whatever they do, they always shoot.  


This is why I steer away from ELW Barrels. It feels like a flip of a coin if you get one that sucks. Then you're SOL.
11/27/2021 12:21:40 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By urbankaos04:


Looking forward to seeing those results whenever it happens. Good to see you back, Molon!!
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Originally Posted By urbankaos04:
Originally Posted By Molon:
Originally Posted By Jonny1904:

@Molon, any chance that you might have a Criterion Core to test at all?



Funny you should ask.  I've been waiting for months for Criterion to have a 16" CORE barrel in stock so that I can do an accuracy evaluation of one.  Their website says "ON BACK ORDER, ETA APRIL/MAY 2021".


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Looking forward to seeing those results whenever it happens. Good to see you back, Molon!!


https://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=3&f=118&t=767754&tl=Criterion-CORE-Barrel-Accuracy-Evaluation


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1/11/2022 6:15:56 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Optimal:
Was able to accomplish this with Winchester 193 as well a few times
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https://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=2515258&tl=Return-of-the-M193-Clones

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1/12/2022 9:38:03 AM EDT
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Nice write up..
1/22/2022 2:51:14 PM EDT
[#31]
Borescope image from the ELW . . .



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5/11/2022 10:32:16 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Optimal:
Nice write up..
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Muchas gracias.

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5/11/2022 11:56:34 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Molon:
Borescope image from the ELW . . .

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/28568/bcm_elw_borescope_001-2247926.jpg

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That looks verrrrry nice.
Change is the only constant. - Heractilus
5/11/2022 10:18:03 PM EDT
[Last Edit: MONGO45][Edited] [#34]
Love seeing testing on stuff I own and like.
Shoot, Move, and Communicate
6/26/2022 6:57:02 PM EDT
[#35]


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6/27/2022 1:06:43 PM EDT
[#36]
One of my favorite rifles
8/31/2022 4:39:50 PM EDT
[#37]


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8/31/2022 5:00:34 PM EDT
[#38]
Thank you for sharing.

What do you use for a backing behind you target ? , those are very uniform looking bullet holes.
*Hold on to your AR-15s. Their magic must be very powerful, or they wouldn’t want them.*
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10/21/2022 6:02:39 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By bfoosh06:
What do you use for a backing behind you target ? , those are very uniform looking bullet holes.
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Depends on whether I'm at a public range or private range.  Those targets were on a styrofoam insulation board.

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In God We Trust. Everyone else must post data.
10/22/2022 10:47:45 AM EDT
[#40]
Thank You
*Hold on to your AR-15s. Their magic must be very powerful, or they wouldn’t want them.*
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12/11/2022 2:07:55 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By bfoosh06:
Thank You
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Dad nada.  


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1/13/2023 12:14:17 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By bfoosh06:
What do you use for a backing behind you target ? , those are very uniform looking bullet holes.
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I just realized that you were probably talking about the target with the M855A1 group.




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1/14/2023 6:03:12 PM EDT
[#43]
Two of my AR rifles have 14.5 inch P/W barrels, and they are more accurate than the 16 inchers I have. Not by much but the difference is noticeable, one is light weight and one is standard.
3/29/2023 4:23:52 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By glocktalk:
One of my favorite rifles
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Indeed.  

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In God We Trust. Everyone else must post data.
6/10/2023 3:48:13 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Molon:
Borescope image from the ELW . . .

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/28568/bcm_elw_borescope_001-2247926.jpg

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Is this ELW barrel cold hammer forged or their standard button cut barrel?

Edit: Need to sharpen up my reading comprehension skills. Original post states cold hammer forged in the second sentence.
2/3/2024 2:15:19 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Jmac1994:


Is this ELW barrel cold hammer forged or their standard button cut barrel?

Edit: Need to sharpen up my reading comprehension skills. Original post states cold hammer forged in the second sentence.
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Originally Posted By Jmac1994:
Originally Posted By Molon:
Borescope image from the ELW . . .

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/28568/bcm_elw_borescope_001-2247926.jpg

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Is this ELW barrel cold hammer forged or their standard button cut barrel?

Edit: Need to sharpen up my reading comprehension skills. Original post states cold hammer forged in the second sentence.

LOL.

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