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4/12/2025 4:44:44 PM EDT
John is a local customer and friend who I've know for 20+ years.  My cell phone has been going off all afternoon with people telling me is being raided right now.  I hope it's not true, but it seems to be happening.   I'm hesitant to txt him, incase he doesn't have his phone.    I know John, I know how careful he is about following the law.  I hope he isn't getting jammed up!
I'm no good at telling people what they want to hear when I dont believe it myself :)
4/12/2025 4:52:18 PM EDT
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Hope not...he's a master craftsman!
4/12/2025 4:53:34 PM EDT
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4/12/2025 4:56:45 PM EDT
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Oof. Hoping it's a nothing-burger. The guy does stellar work.
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4/12/2025 4:58:05 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By gurn-blanston:
WTF indeed.  I hope it's minor.  Reprofiling 80 lowers and milling obscure front sight bases and slip rings shouldn't be an issue.
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Shouldn't be an issue. Michigan's commie governor and congress made it almost as bad as CA.  I texted him a hello, let's see when I hear back.
I'm no good at telling people what they want to hear when I dont believe it myself :)
4/12/2025 5:01:35 PM EDT
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ATF goons doing what they do best.. fucking with people.   I hope it works out for John.
The ongoing racial innuendos are not going unnoticed - Beware.
4/12/2025 5:06:42 PM EDT
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No matter who is in charge....feds gonna do fed things
4/12/2025 5:21:18 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By gurn-blanston:
WTF indeed.  I hope it's minor.  Reprofiling 80 lowers and milling obscure front sight bases and slip rings shouldn't be an issue.
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It shouldn't be, but they'll make it issue like they always do.
4/12/2025 5:27:47 PM EDT
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Maybe it is just a compliance inspection.
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4/12/2025 5:31:23 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By wreckless:
Maybe it is just a compliance inspection.
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He doesn't have an FFL.
I'm no good at telling people what they want to hear when I dont believe it myself :)
4/12/2025 6:05:25 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By bigbore:


He doesn't have an FFL.
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Then he's lying on his website cause it says he's a type 01 FFL Holder.    https://retroarmsworks.com/f-a-q
4/12/2025 6:17:24 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By NEW-N-IMPROVED:



Then he's lying on his website cause it says he's a type 01 FFL Holder.    https://retroarmsworks.com/f-a-q
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That's John Thomas. Not John Brace.
4/12/2025 6:18:02 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By NEW-N-IMPROVED:



Then he's lying on his website cause it says he's a type 01 FFL Holder.    https://retroarmsworks.com/f-a-q
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That's john thomas
I'm no good at telling people what they want to hear when I dont believe it myself :)
4/12/2025 6:18:46 PM EDT
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Yes, it's true. They raided his house on Tuesday .

Took his cnc machines, vehicles, dug up his backyard. His wife and kids were home. He was at work.
I'm no good at telling people what they want to hear when I dont believe it myself :)
4/12/2025 6:30:54 PM EDT
[#14]
Very unfortunate and disturbing.
4/12/2025 6:33:02 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By bigbore:
Yes, it's true. They raided his house on Tuesday .

Took his cnc machines, vehicles, dug up his backyard. His wife and kids were home. He was at work.
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That’s a shame.
4/12/2025 6:33:39 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By NEW-N-IMPROVED:



Then he's lying on his website cause it says he's a type 01 FFL Holder.    https://retroarmsworks.com/f-a-q
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Welcome to the forum.  Way to make an entrance.
4/12/2025 6:41:52 PM EDT
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Seizing a CNC machine ain't the easiest thing...That's dedication.
4/12/2025 6:42:15 PM EDT
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Wow, that’s really messed up. I wonder what the likely BS story behind this is.
4/12/2025 6:47:14 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By jos51700:
Seizing a CNC machine ain't the easiest thing...That's dedication.
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They probably damaged or destroyed the machine in the process. It's a tossup on whether it was negligence or intentional.
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4/12/2025 6:53:19 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By NEW-N-IMPROVED:

Then he's lying on his website cause it says he's a type 01 FFL Holder.    https://retroarmsworks.com/f-a-q
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You might want to do your research before you come in here accusing a well respected member of being a liar.  
The ongoing racial innuendos are not going unnoticed - Beware.
4/12/2025 6:59:43 PM EDT
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So if he is getting raided, does that mean that everyone he did work for in the past is next ? I didn't think reprofiling 80's was a crime ?
4/12/2025 7:02:05 PM EDT
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Maybe vickers snitched lol
4/12/2025 7:06:06 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By NEW-N-IMPROVED:



Then he's lying on his website cause it says he's a type 01 FFL Holder.    https://retroarmsworks.com/f-a-q
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We found one.

Not really New N Improved are we.
4/12/2025 7:13:08 PM EDT
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Wonder if they are using the Supreme Court's recent decision as a rational to say that 80% lowers are now firearms?
4/12/2025 7:15:14 PM EDT
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Tagged to see who was the rat(CI)
4/12/2025 7:38:23 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Retroenthusiast67:
So if he is getting raided, does that mean that everyone he did work for in the past is next ? I didn't think reprofiling 80's was a crime ?
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The odds of a retro-clone being used in a crime is just about 0%.  I bet they claim working on 80s (for pay) is gunsmithing.
4/12/2025 7:40:33 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By NEW-N-IMPROVED:



Then he's lying on his website cause it says he's a type 01 FFL Holder.    https://retroarmsworks.com/f-a-q
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Originally Posted By NEW-N-IMPROVED:
Originally Posted By bigbore:


He doesn't have an FFL.



Then he's lying on his website cause it says he's a type 01 FFL Holder.    https://retroarmsworks.com/f-a-q

FFS
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4/12/2025 7:48:21 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By brodband8:
Maybe vickers snitched lol
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I know he did do 80% receiver work for Larry.
I'm no good at telling people what they want to hear when I dont believe it myself :)
4/12/2025 7:51:00 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Retroenthusiast67:
So if he is getting raided, does that mean that everyone he did work for in the past is next ? I didn't think reprofiling 80's was a crime ?
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I would not be surprised if the ATF knocks on those doors.
I'm no good at telling people what they want to hear when I dont believe it myself :)
4/12/2025 8:45:54 PM EDT
[Last Edit: j3_][Edited] [#30]
Hope it turns out favorable for him.
4/12/2025 8:49:40 PM EDT
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This thread can only harm braceman
4/12/2025 9:10:28 PM EDT
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ATF you say? Was it ordered by Kash Patel or Dan Driscoll?
4/12/2025 9:28:34 PM EDT
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Dug up his back yard? WTF
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4/12/2025 9:40:47 PM EDT
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Wow, that sucks and hopefully not a big deal but based on what was said so far sounds like they were pretty serious.

Wishing the best for him
4/12/2025 9:44:33 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By bigbore:
Yes, it's true. They raided his house on Tuesday .

Took his cnc machines, vehicles, dug up his backyard. His wife and kids were home. He was at work.
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Damn.
"All welchers should be removed from the EE".-Aimless
4/12/2025 9:50:38 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Aimless:
Dug up his back yard? WTF
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Yeah I noticed that.... It's not a good sign
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4/12/2025 9:55:42 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By osprey21:


You might want to do your research before you come in here accusing a well respected member of being a liar.  
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Originally Posted By osprey21:
Originally Posted By NEW-N-IMPROVED:

Then he's lying on his website cause it says he's a type 01 FFL Holder.    https://retroarmsworks.com/f-a-q


You might want to do your research before you come in here accusing a well respected member of being a liar.  


First thing I thought as well. What a way to show your ass.
4/12/2025 10:04:40 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By HHollow:
This thread can only harm braceman
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Oh, please.  They threw flash bangs into his house with his wife and teen aged daughters while John was at work. Anything posted here is absolutely insignificant compared to whatever was on that warrant.  I'm sure they have every text and email John sent in the last couple years.  As well as every thread here showcasing his work.  My 3rd hand info from local police is he was building and selling machine guns without a license.  I don't believe that for a minute.  Maybe he was, I don't know.    Whatever the situation, it needs exposed.
I'm no good at telling people what they want to hear when I dont believe it myself :)
4/12/2025 10:14:08 PM EDT
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Hate seeing things like this.
4/12/2025 10:30:00 PM EDT
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Swatted?  I hear its popular lately.  Its very difficult to believe
John Brace would knowingly do anything illegal.
4/12/2025 10:30:55 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By bigbore:

 My 3rd hand info from local police is he was building and selling machine guns without a license.  I don't believe that for a minute.  Maybe he was, I don't know.    Whatever the situation, it needs exposed.
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ATF logic there; rollmarks from an MG must mean it is one (even if it’s not)
4/12/2025 10:40:26 PM EDT
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Lots of morons think that ARs are machineguns.
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4/12/2025 10:44:37 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By osprey21:


You might want to do your research before you come in here accusing a well respected member of being a liar.  
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It's pretty clear he didn't understand the difference between two very active people here. I've confused these two guys before, myself.

Originally Posted By nvcdl:

Wonder if they are using the Supreme Court's recent decision as a rational to say that 80% lowers are now firearms?
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Pretty sure the recent decision explicitly did not establish anything even remotely close to this.
4/12/2025 10:45:48 PM EDT
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In for this one. Hopefully the guys makes it through without being financially ruined.
4/12/2025 10:45:57 PM EDT
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And I'd like to point out that everything in this thread is conjecture and nothing is direct, yet.
4/12/2025 10:49:51 PM EDT
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44444 Ithat isIaaallll
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4/12/2025 10:59:06 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By osprey21:


You might want to do your research before you come in here accusing a well respected member of being a liar.  
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Originally Posted By osprey21:
Originally Posted By NEW-N-IMPROVED:

Then he's lying on his website cause it says he's a type 01 FFL Holder.    https://retroarmsworks.com/f-a-q


You might want to do your research before you come in here accusing a well respected member of being a liar.  

quite an entrance indeed

Hope braceman is doing well. He’s a legend here
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4/12/2025 10:59:37 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By brodband8:
Maybe vickers snitched lol
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Also lol
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"A people that values its privileges above its principles soon loses both"

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4/12/2025 11:56:23 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By NEW-N-IMPROVED:



Then he's lying on his website cause it says he's a type 01 FFL Holder.    https://retroarmsworks.com/f-a-q
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Originally Posted By NEW-N-IMPROVED:
Originally Posted By bigbore:


He doesn't have an FFL.



Then he's lying on his website cause it says he's a type 01 FFL Holder.    https://retroarmsworks.com/f-a-q


How about you get your facts straight before posting s**t.
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4/13/2025 12:31:00 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By brodband8:
Maybe vickers snitched lol
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Snickers the snitcher?  Will he receive stitches?

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