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Posted: 6/5/2026 8:45:28 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By JohnGA: On Reddit someone used East Valley Tactical. Not a cheap FRT job. Checked it out, thank you. But also, ouch  to my wallet.Found a reddit thread with several satisfied customers, though. I am trying to resist using Rare Breed . . . Is it the AR15 trigger or the H&K trigger from Rare Breed used in the East Valley Tactical conversion service? |
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Originally Posted By mak0: Cloak Industries has one coming soon Cloaks is by partisan Errr Triggered or whatever they are now. It’s a redesigned housing ( I made mine look that way by grinding it  . The main component is the metal trip (OOB Saftey dohickey) that has a differ t geometry. It’s actually AMMJ Detroit’s design they are working on it together.I’ve got 6 or 7 of those 3d printed. So I won’t be running out and buying one right away. I would buy ASDs version but I feel they are in the back burner to the ARHK which is understandable. Lots more revenue in the HK world for sure You don’t have to mill the gun any more. Mine looked ok for using a carbide dremel bit and a drill press with a piece of angle iron as my jig/fence I had clamped down with welding clamps lol.  Made my own selector work with a factory B&T 3 position one. 
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Originally Posted By HKH: I would buy ASDs version but I feel they are in the back burner to the ARHK which is understandable. Lots more revenue in the HK world for sure Yes/no. We have nearly final samples of the lowers and trip parts. They work great and look OEM (well, in my opinion, better cause fully machined instead of polymer), using all OEM B&T parts. However, we now have the unfortunate situation of B&T USA vs B&T AG. Compounding with the war in Iran has now made Switzerland not authorize any new export licenses to the US, so we are stuck waiting for either A: Them figuring out their legal stuff or B: B&T AG getting their new US importer up and running enough to get us the parts or C: The US to stop involving themselves with Iran so export licenses are re-opened. So I have no concrete ETA at this point... But once the parts are available, we'll be tooled up and ready to launch immediately. |
Yall wanna sell me a stripped lower? I’ll install all the parts myself. I’m the guy who bought a couple of each of what B&T USA had in stock. I’ve got 3 spare 3 position selectors lol among most everything else. If I don’t I can cannibalize what i don’t have off the GHM |
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Originally Posted By ASDesigns: Yes/no. We have nearly final samples of the lowers and trip parts. They work great and look OEM (well, in my opinion, better cause fully machined instead of polymer), using all OEM B&T parts. However, we now have the unfortunate situation of B&T USA vs B&T AG. Compounding with the war in Iran has now made Switzerland not authorize any new export licenses to the US, so we are stuck waiting for either A: Them figuring out their legal stuff or B: B&T AG getting their new US importer up and running enough to get us the parts or C: The US to stop involving themselves with Iran so export licenses are re-opened. So I have no concrete ETA at this point... But once the parts are available, we'll be tooled up and ready to launch immediately. Iran and US are supposed to sign a deal Friday. |
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Originally Posted By ASDesigns: Yes/no. We have nearly final samples of the lowers and trip parts. They work great and look OEM (well, in my opinion, better cause fully machined instead of polymer), using all OEM B&T parts. However, we now have the unfortunate situation of B&T USA vs B&T AG. Compounding with the war in Iran has now made Switzerland not authorize any new export licenses to the US, so we are stuck waiting for either A: Them figuring out their legal stuff or B: B&T AG getting their new US importer up and running enough to get us the parts or C: The US to stop involving themselves with Iran so export licenses are re-opened. So I have no concrete ETA at this point... But once the parts are available, we'll be tooled up and ready to launch immediately. I don't suppose that there has been any progress on B&T USA v. B&T AG? 
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Originally Posted By Malum-Prohibitum: I don't suppose that there has been any progress on B&T USA v. B&T AG? Yeah Karl got his trademark back. B&T USA isn’t long for this world I’m afraid. I’ve got 2 of their cans. But at least my APC10 and GHM SD are Swiss made. |
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Originally Posted By HKH: Yeah Karl got his trademark back. B&T USA isn’t long for this world I’m afraid. I’ve got 2 of their cans. But at least my APC10 and GHM SD are Swiss made. That is great that he got his trademark back imo. In the interview I saw he seemed more open to warranty support for b&t USA products if he could retain the TM. But I may misunderstand. |
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Originally Posted By Malum-Prohibitum: So we are waiting for them to open a new US subsidiary later this year? https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/b-t-ag-regains-control-of-the-brand-in-the-us-44829187 I guess so. I don't really know know why that should hold up development (if we know he got the trademark back, it is a safe bet they will be selling products in the US)...I am just glad it seems to be moving in the right direction. |
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Originally Posted By BKenton: I guess so. I don't really know know why that should hold up development (if we know he got the trademark back, it is a safe bet they will be selling products in the US)...I am just glad it seems to be moving in the right direction. Not a development limitation, it's a parts limitation. We decided early on that people would strongly prefer an OEM style and OEM equivalent lower, so we designed ours to use all the OEM parts. Unfortunately, that means it ONLY uses OEM parts... which can't be obtained currently 
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Originally Posted By ASDesigns: Not a development limitation, it's a parts limitation. We decided early on that people would strongly prefer an OEM style and OEM equivalent lower, so we designed ours to use all the OEM parts. Unfortunately, that means it ONLY uses OEM parts... which can't be obtained currently Ah, understood. I really could not care too much less, I expected to have to put a SPC9 lower on it... Hopefully they will be available for you soon, it's at least good news. |
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Originally Posted By HKH: I’ve got the parts Sell me the Ghm lower and let me be your ambassador lol. I don’t want to have to buy a partisan one but my RB pack with the 3d printed “dongle” trip thing is no longer working. Not sure why. My only option is now the Cloak industries one. Any way to use a spc9 lower with ar15 fcg and make it works that way? |
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I have a gmh9 with a Lingle lower to take scorpion mags and AR safety/trigger. I still have the oem(sig 320) lower but I prefer not to use that one. I spoke with a guy at East Valley and he said the Lingle can be used but if someone makes something that doesn't involve sending out and machining I'd use the oem. Unfortunately I think it might be too much involved and money to frt my gmh9 especially with the aftermarket lower. I think my ap5p might be a better option if I want to frt one of my PCCs. |
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Originally Posted By BKenton: Any way to use a spc9 lower with ar15 fcg and make it works that way? A 9MM B&T spc/apc/ghm gen 2 are all the same lower (FCG is ar like but not quite the same-I think. I do know the Hammer pin is longer due to plastic receiver dimensions.)  This SD9 is a go fast one. I milled it myself (not bad I thought) - and used Marvin’s 3d printed safety and dongle for the RB pack. It doesn’t work any more for some reason. I did source factory 3 position B&T APC mg safety that I modified to work with the frt pack. So that’s nice. I bought 3 or four more so I could have spares. My APC Pro 10 was sent to EVT for the full treatment and it came back with a bitchin factory correct METAL selector. This thing fucks  (Suppressor is in K mode, the other half is in the safe.) |
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Originally Posted By HKH: A 9MM B&T spc/apc/ghm gen 2 are all the same lower (FCG is ar like but not quite the same-I think. I do know the Hammer pin is longer due to plastic receiver dimensions.) https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/99571/IMG_2378-3773894.jpg This SD9 is a go fast one. I milled it myself (not bad I thought) - and used Marvin’s 3d printed safety and dongle for the RB pack. It doesn’t work any more for some reason. I did source factory 3 position B&T APC mg safety that I modified to work with the frt pack. So that’s nice. I bought 3 or four more so I could have spares. My APC Pro 10 was sent to EVT for the full treatment and it came back with a bitchin factory correct METAL selector. This thing fuckshttps://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/99571/IMG_5094-3792425.jpg (Suppressor is in K mode, the other half is in the safe.) Hopefully others will step in and prevent EVT from price-gaping the rest of us...because I need B&T FRT in my lyfe man. Yeah, the SPC takes AR FCGs so I thought it might be a little simpler to do. |
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