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Originally Posted By MBUZICHOMA:
Not educated on the types. What makes the 188/76 so desired that people fake it? With the availability of pulled projectiles, its only certain that some people have faked them. (One guy sells pulled PZ bullets necked down to .30cal and calls them RAUFOUS) By this time the Russians had improved most of their small arms adding the letter "M" for modernized, such as B32M API. The difference between the two can be seen, where the core is smaller on the modern and has incendiary mix in back of projectile. They believe that the mix in the back will ignite fuel tanks better that way. The tracers where modernized as well going from T46 to T46M, the modern one lacks the tracer capsule. The Syrian tracer is also unknown to me, thinking that may be a X39 projectile in a 54R case. Czechs did roll their own. This should have happened around 1974ish. |
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Originally Posted By wolfganggross:
With the availability of pulled projectiles, its only certain that some people have faked them. (One guy sells pulled PZ bullets necked down to .30cal and calls them RAUFOUS) By this time the Russians had improved most of their small arms adding the letter "M" for modernized, such as B32M API. The difference between the two can be seen, where the core is smaller on the modern and has incendiary mix in back of projectile. They believe that the mix in the back will ignite fuel tanks better that way. The tracers where modernized as well going from T46 to T46M, the modern one lacks the tracer capsule. The Syrian tracer is also unknown to me, thinking that may be a X39 projectile in a 54R case. Czechs did roll their own. This should have happened around 1974ish. Originally Posted By wolfganggross:
Originally Posted By MBUZICHOMA:
Not educated on the types. What makes the 188/76 so desired that people fake it? With the availability of pulled projectiles, its only certain that some people have faked them. (One guy sells pulled PZ bullets necked down to .30cal and calls them RAUFOUS) By this time the Russians had improved most of their small arms adding the letter "M" for modernized, such as B32M API. The difference between the two can be seen, where the core is smaller on the modern and has incendiary mix in back of projectile. They believe that the mix in the back will ignite fuel tanks better that way. The tracers where modernized as well going from T46 to T46M, the modern one lacks the tracer capsule. The Syrian tracer is also unknown to me, thinking that may be a X39 projectile in a 54R case. Czechs did roll their own. This should have happened around 1974ish. So they are API. Armor piercing incindeary |
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Originally Posted By Wipeout:
What are the rounds on the top left, and what is the deal with the one that looks bulged? Those are spotter/ observation rounds. They explode on contact and show you your impact area. (During WW2, when the Hague convention went out the window, Russians were shooting these at the Germans Commanders heads. The Germans used the B Patrone spotter against the Russians. Nasty little buggers) Conversely, a tracer shows you your trajectory. The bulged PZ round sort of detonated when I was cutting it. Was able to glue it back together. (It took a 1in chip out of my grinder and needed new panties afterwards!) Not sure if Argentine Spotters (7.65x54) where loaded "officially", that's the one on the far left. Yes, all projectiles are legit, its whether or not if its in the correct case, like the 188/76's. |
Well so much for the 30 Carbine Devastator being your only Kaboom huh? 
I can't believe you were able to section ANY of those spotter rounds without detonation! I love your cutaway's and appreciate your efforts sir! 
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