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8/25/2010 4:53:52 PM EDT
[Last Edit: kaos][Edited] [#1]







Originally Posted By Burn-z:




Does the S&W 5.45X39 flash hider/muzzle brake come off?  It will not move!  Do I need a special tool?  Sorry if this has been answered but I don't have time to go through 8 pages of threads.
You're in that big a hurry that you'll wait for somebody to take their time to type an answer, instead of reading '8 pages'?  
There are other things you need to know about working on your weapon, without damaging it by twisting the barrel in the upper, or twisting the gas block, or crushing the gas tube, or a dozen or so other things.

 
Fuck Obama
8/25/2010 5:38:28 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Burn-z][Edited] [#2]
Originally Posted By kaos:

Originally Posted By Burn-z:
Does the S&W 5.45X39 flash hider/muzzle brake come off?  It will not move!  Do I need a special tool?  Sorry if this has been answered but I don't have time to go through 8 pages of threads.
You're in that big a hurry that you'll wait for somebody to take their time to type an answer, instead of reading '8 pages'?  

There are other things you need to know about working on your weapon, without damaging it by twisting the barrel in the upper, or twisting the gas block, or crushing the gas tube, or a dozen or so other things.



 


Yeah I can hop on after work and I figured since there is an average of 2K-4K online it would be answered quick rather than lose my job reading posts.  Thanks for being helpful and answering my question.
8/25/2010 5:44:43 PM EDT
[#3]
Originally Posted By Derf:
Should come off with a 3/4" wrench or an armor's wrench.
probably torq'd on pretty tight from the factory.
get a buddy to hold it down while you turn.
or better yet, get a upper receiver clamp and put it in a vice.


Cool thanks!  I probably was not using enough force, afraid of bending the barrel.  

8/25/2010 5:52:41 PM EDT
[#4]



Originally Posted By Burn-z:



Originally Posted By Derf:

Should come off with a 3/4" wrench or an armor's wrench.

probably torq'd on pretty tight from the factory.

get a buddy to hold it down while you turn.

or better yet, get a upper receiver clamp and put it in a vice.




Cool thanks!  I probably was not using enough force, afraid of bending the barrel.  



Clamp the barrel in a vice between two blocks of wood, or you *might* twist the upper reciever if it's on that tight.



You might also twist the barrel locating pin in the upper.



Thats why I was a little about you being in such a hurry that you might only get part of an answer.



We don't know what you're doing, or your lavel of expertise.  If WE leave out a detail, you might break something and it's OUR fault.



Good luck.  





 
Fuck Obama
8/25/2010 7:43:08 PM EDT
[#5]
Originally Posted By Derf:
Should come off with a 3/4" wrench or an armor's wrench.
probably torq'd on pretty tight from the factory.
get a buddy to hold it down while you turn.
or better yet, get a upper receiver clamp and put it in a vice.


I would suggest that you get yourself something to clamp on the barrel between the front sight and the muzzle brake, then use the 3/4" wrench or armourers wrench.  I have seen damage occur when using the clamp device on the receiver.  The aligning pin in the barrel extension can cause severe damage to the forward end of the receiver if heavy torque is required for removal of the brake.  llc
8/25/2010 8:02:48 PM EDT
[#6]
Originally Posted By llc:
Originally Posted By Derf:
Should come off with a 3/4" wrench or an armor's wrench.
probably torq'd on pretty tight from the factory.
get a buddy to hold it down while you turn.
or better yet, get a upper receiver clamp and put it in a vice.


I would suggest that you get yourself something to clamp on the barrel between the front sight and the muzzle brake, then use the 3/4" wrench or armourers wrench.  I have seen damage occur when using the clamp device on the receiver.  The aligning pin in the barrel extension can cause severe damage to the forward end of the receiver if heavy torque is required for removal of the brake.  llc


Not only that....depending on how tight that flash hider is torqued on, you possibly risk loosening the barrel extension and REALLY farking things up.  Not very likely to happen, but why take the chance?

He needs to clamp the barrel in the vise with barrel blocks then remove using an armorer's wrench or 3/4" crows foot.  I always suggest that folks use the proper tools.
8/25/2010 9:16:26 PM EDT
[#7]
Originally Posted By molardog:
Originally Posted By llc:
Originally Posted By Derf:
Should come off with a 3/4" wrench or an armor's wrench.
probably torq'd on pretty tight from the factory.
get a buddy to hold it down while you turn.
or better yet, get a upper receiver clamp and put it in a vice.


I would suggest that you get yourself something to clamp on the barrel between the front sight and the muzzle brake, then use the 3/4" wrench or armourers wrench.  I have seen damage occur when using the clamp device on the receiver.  The aligning pin in the barrel extension can cause severe damage to the forward end of the receiver if heavy torque is required for removal of the brake.  llc


Not only that....depending on how tight that flash hider is torqued on, you possibly risk loosening the barrel extension and REALLY farking things up.  Not very likely to happen, but why take the chance?


He needs to clamp the barrel in the vise with barrel blocks then remove using an armorer's wrench or 3/4" crows foot.  I always suggest that folks use the proper tools.


Doing it correctly the first time usually prevents the "Oh F CK" and the need to do it a second time.........I certainly wish I had always practiced what I preach but education is sometimes pretty expensive.  Often the correct tool is not available but a little insight into the proper procedure will often let you improvise and use what you have.  llc

8/26/2010 7:25:22 AM EDT
[#8]
Thanks everyone for the tips.  But I went from being exciting about a new compensator to crapping my pants that broke my gun trying to get the muzzle brake off.  

I guess I will just have to go to the range ASAP and put a few hundred rounds through it to make sure it is running ok.  
12/8/2010 5:22:34 PM EDT
[#9]
FYI:






Originally Posted By 14point5:




Here is the quote from Chad of C Products:




Just
so everyone is aware, we have halted all 5.45 magazine shipments as we
are looking at making some changes to the magazine. I will update
everyone as we progress and we will make right anyone who has non
functioning magazines.



Chad
Quote found in this thread: LINK



I am guessing thew ones seen still for sale are what is left in stock of the GEN 1 version.



Even
though I am invested in the GEN 1 mags to the tune of about 40
magazines, I look forward to, and would buy more, if an improved GEN 2
5.45 AR magazine was released.





 

I really like AR-15s and 1911s. A lot... Veterans of Foreign Wars Lifetime Member, NRA Life Member too.

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