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1/3/2025 11:58:18 PM EDT
[Last Edit: RRPlainsman][Edited]
Hi all!

Im looking at building a 12.5” barreled pistol in 5.56/.223 and see there arent manybthat length readily available.  What do you know of and what would you recommend?

(Please refrain from other barrel lengths as I have others and am specifically looking for 12.5”.)

Thank you!
1/4/2025 12:23:14 AM EDT
[#1]
I built one last year…. Close anyway…

.223 Wylde 12.3 inch Hanson profile Ballistic Advantage.

It has been perfect. I have a dot on it so I haven’t shot at 100 for groups but zeroing groups were great.
1/4/2025 12:23:29 AM EDT
[#2]
Criterion Core, hands down. Great accuracy, gassed appropriately, and velocity in the 2950-3005 fps range with M193
1/4/2025 12:38:11 AM EDT
[#3]
I have a KAK 12.5” mid length that I have really started to like. I don’t have a ton of rounds through it yet but it’s functioned great and shoots soft and accurate.
-"The truth does not require your belief in it to function."
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1/4/2025 12:56:41 AM EDT
[#4]
I used a BRT 12.5 barrel with their ext. gas.  It works out better than carbine and better than middy.

It is CHF 12.5 ext chrome lined.
1/4/2025 9:22:32 AM EDT
[#5]
I have a G$ CHF/CL, Criterion hybrid CL, and a SOLGW V2 CHF in 12.5, all are carbine length gas.

All 3 shoot really well. The Criterion hybrid is the heaviest of the 3, the SOLGW V2 is the best balanced with a chunk of weight around the chamber area. I’d go with whichever one I could get the best deal on.
“Necessary? Is it necessary for me to drink my own urine? No, but I do it anyway because it’s sterile and I like the taste.” -Patches O’Houlihan

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1/4/2025 11:34:15 AM EDT
[#6]
What do you know of and what would you recommend?
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How much $$$ you wanna spend
1/21/2025 10:36:43 PM EDT
[#7]
No more than necessary!
1/22/2025 1:59:27 AM EDT
[#8]
I had a 12.5 inch A.R. 15 performance barrel with mid length gas that was very accurate and shot most loads 100 feet slower than my 16 inch barrels.
It ran great with my suppressor, but without the suppressor The BCG needed to be kept well lubricated.

I now have a B.A.12.3 inch carbine gas barrel. It is slower which I don’t like but has a little more gas, which I prefer.
1/22/2025 2:07:17 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Stowe][Edited] [#9]
For the money -
Here
I have one. It balances beautifully with an mcmr handguard. Even with a can.
2/12/2025 10:02:44 PM EDT
[#10]
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Originally Posted By Stowe:
For the money -
Here
I have one. It balances beautifully with an mcmr handguard. Even with a can.
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Wow!  Had I seen those at that price when I was shopping for a 12.5” I would have jumped on it.

I went with a Ballistic Advantage carbine gas barrel.  Not many rounds through it yet, but it works just fine and seems to be gassed well. Works well suppressed or not.
2/14/2025 5:29:03 PM EDT
[#11]
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Originally Posted By Stowe:
For the money -
Here
I have one. It balances beautifully with an mcmr handguard. Even with a can.
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I don’t really need a 4th 12.5” but at that price…..
“Necessary? Is it necessary for me to drink my own urine? No, but I do it anyway because it’s sterile and I like the taste.” -Patches O’Houlihan

2023/24 Arfcom FPL Champion
2/17/2025 12:30:57 PM EDT
[#12]
My 12.5 turned out to be the rig that I grab the most. It's the perfect size and weight for me to serve as a general purpose setup.

Having run a bunch of different barrels, including many of the brands listed already, I wanted a hard use barrel that would maintain accuracy for long strings of fire. I went with a Criterion Hybrid profile barrel.
2/17/2025 9:03:08 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Luny421:

I don’t really need a 4th 12.5” but at that price…..
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I dont have a lot of rounds through it, but im liking it and for the money... Its a great value.
2/23/2025 5:31:55 PM EDT
[#14]
I ended up ordering a Gunner barrel from Faxin this week as they had 20% off.  I like the heavy profile the Gunner offers.

I also ordered a bolt from them headspaced to the barrel.
2/27/2025 11:30:47 AM EDT
[#15]
No problems with my 12.5 or 10.5 Faxon barrels
3/2/2025 5:28:41 PM EDT
[#16]
I see finding a handguard online for a 12.5” barrel isnt straight forward.

I am going to use an A2 birdcage, so will a 12.8” handguard end up being too long?

If I go with a shorter handguard, will an 11” or 11.5” be appropriate?

Thanks!
3/2/2025 10:00:33 PM EDT
[#17]
I used that Centurion Lightweight 12.5" for my wife's build. It is definitely a very nice barrel that balances well

3/4/2025 12:15:56 PM EDT
[#18]
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Originally Posted By RRPlainsman:
I see finding a handguard online for a 12.5” barrel isnt straight forward.

I am going to use an A2 birdcage, so will a 12.8” handguard end up being too long?

If I go with a shorter handguard, will an 11” or 11.5” be appropriate?

Thanks!
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Here some examples for reference.

12.5” Criterion hybrid barrel and 11.5” MI combat rail
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12.5” SOLGW CHF barrel and 12” Q Honey Badger handguard
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12.5” Geissele CHF barrel and 11.5” CMT DRT handguard
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“Necessary? Is it necessary for me to drink my own urine? No, but I do it anyway because it’s sterile and I like the taste.” -Patches O’Houlihan

2023/24 Arfcom FPL Champion
3/4/2025 12:21:52 PM EDT
[#19]
The honey badger rail is actually like 11.8 at its longest spot.
3/4/2025 12:29:46 PM EDT
[#20]
Originally Posted By RRPlainsman:
Hi all!

Im looking at building a 12.5" barreled pistol in 5.56/.223 and see there arent manybthat length readily available.  What do you know of and what would you recommend?

(Please refrain from other barrel lengths as I have others and am specifically looking for 12.5".)

Thank you!
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A GL/SSC clone build with a Daniel Defense GL/SSC handguard and Daniel Defense 12.5" barrel is a great option. Original GL/SSC handguards are difficult to find, so most clone builders use a chopped M4A1 handguard. Here's my 12.5" GL/SSC build, it's an SBR, but you could build one with a pistol brace instead of a stock:


3/7/2025 8:29:17 PM EDT
[#21]
Another vote for KAK. My 12.5" 5.56 shoots awesome. It's a KAK upper receiver, barrel and bolt. Everything else is my favorite parts from various manufactures.
5/23/2025 5:54:24 PM EDT
[#22]
KAK has a 12.5 mid upper on sale https://kakindustry.com/memorial-sale-upper-1-5-56-12-5-mid-1-7-with-knt/

I don't have a can , probably will have one eventually. Anybody have good luck with one of these unsuppressed?
5/23/2025 7:46:47 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Joedirt199][Edited] [#23]
I did a cut down BCM 14.5 midlength gas. Has a YHM Turbo3 and a reduced port gas block. Shoots so smooth and light.
5/26/2025 7:14:05 AM EDT
[#24]
Just buy a complete 12.5in super duty mod1 upper.
5/26/2025 5:03:32 PM EDT
[#25]
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Originally Posted By FloridaMan11b:
Just buy a complete 12.5in super duty mod1 upper.
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Hard to argue with this advice.  Complete uppers currently on sale at Midway.  Geissele also has a couple of big sales every year and sometimes sells blemished uppers for a nice discount.

BCM also has a nice selection of 12.5" uppers for under $800.

And if you've got the budget an LMT Specwar upper is pretty damn nice.   And with LMT you can switch out barrel and convert your upper to 300 BO, longer barrel etc, which is a nice option.  But no one has ever said LMT is a cheap  option.
5/26/2025 5:12:39 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By polishkebasa:
KAK has a 12.5 mid upper on sale https://kakindustry.com/memorial-sale-upper-1-5-56-12-5-mid-1-7-with-knt/

I don't have a can , probably will have one eventually. Anybody have good luck with one of these unsuppressed?
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I have the KAK barrel and it has worked well unsuppressed and suppressed.
-"The truth does not require your belief in it to function."
-Genuine science is about gathering evidence and testing the veracity of theories, not cheerleading for a particular ideology.

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