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Are you cutting the nose off?

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123gr SST BC is really .462 G1 for Grendel.

129gr SST is .495 G1 in one of the papers I have from Litz.

Expansion threshold for the SSTs is 1800fps.

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What would be more informative for you?  Calibrated gel tests, or endless videos of hogs being slayed, because I can link the latter.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7BrBx7_2ltg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-PBcjCopfU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AvaD6efRNIc

He's been using 90gr TNT a lot lately, with very positive results.  If you look at some of the recovered bullets, they were mushroomed like a soft point.

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Another excellent write up, @Eagle_19r.

Off topic, but are there any concerns shooting with the Omega and the 12.5" upper?

I've been thinking of picking up a 12.5" 6.5 and using it with my Omega, but I cant find what the Sico's recommended minimum barrel length requirement is for the Grendel and Omega.

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The 6.5mm SSTs expand consistently down to 1800fps when we did calibrated gel testing on them.  We did 10-shot samples, and consulted with Hornady on their results as well.  They do testing on gel out to 400yds to maintain real-world RPM, which has an effect on behavior in the tissue.

http://shootersnotes.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/Vol-2-Excerpt-300x326.jpg

The 123gr A-MAX expands down to ~1600fps, but isn't meant to be a controlled expansion bullet.

At Grendel speeds, it works very well as a hunting bullet on broadside shots on deer.  Its performance on hogs has been good, but not as good as the 123gr SST.

Same for the ELD-M, which is basically an A-MAX with the new tip just to streamline production.  Grendel never needed the new tips, but 123gr ELD-M got them anyway.

Some newer projectiles with lower expansion threshold are:

129gr Nosler Accubond Long Range-1300fps
110gr Lehigh Defense Controlled Chaos-1500fps

I think the Barnes 127gr LRX is supposed to expand down to 1600fps.  It's quite long, and more ideal when fired from a 6.5-08 class of cartridge, but has been used successfully in 6.5 Grendel to hunt Oryx from a JP complete rifle.

Several hunters with 6.5 Grendel SBRs or pistols are using the 129gr ABLR, with DRT or quick kill results as that bullet is extremely soft, but stays bonded.  It works as advertised, and necropsy has shown immediate and rapid expansion on hogs, with full opening within an inch of penetration, then massive cavitation of the vitals, usually with exits on broadside shots.

I have also been using modified Hornady GMXs cut down to 94gr in 6.5 Grendel.  From an 18", it does 2750-2800fps, expands really well and retains 99% weight.

http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j422/LRRPF52/65%20Grendel%20Reloading/20170322_092509_zpsls2xkk1g.jpg

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I'll bump this thread too, as I found the 12.5 Federal Fusion ballistic info incredibly helpful!

That load is my deer hunting load as well as my future HD load out of my 12.5 Grendel SBR.

Btw, I've found Federal Fusion to be very precise out of my Ballistic Advantage barrel. Call it a fluke if you will but I have a 4 shot .431 inch group at 100 yards, with several other groups between .8 and 1.2 inch groups. I'm very pleased.

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Thank you so much for this data.  I am disappointed to see the Ballistic Advantage barrels perform so poorly in the accuracy department.  They proudly boast sub-MOA accuracy for every barrel they make, and I have yet to own a single BA barrel capable of demonstrating this.  My LaRue barrels group .5 MOA or better on an almost comically consistent basis.  You certainly have some match ammo amongst your testing choices.

Unfortunately it looks like you are having the same disappointing results.  Any thoughts?

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Look towards the bottom of page one.  I'm shooting a B.A. Hanson barrel and it shoots great.  I get results like that from both American Gunner and SST.  I haven't been able to try anything else yet, however a buddy said he ordered some ELDm and Fusion I'm going to get to try too.

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I don't understand your comment.  You said your barrel shoots great and then you also said "I get results like that" from two types of ammo.  Results like what?

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You were talking about Ballistic Advantage barrels performing like crap.  The pic. I have is of results I get in my ballistic advantage barrel with American Gunner Ammo.  I also get similar results using Hornady SST.  I'll be testing some ELD-M and fusion too as my buddy just located some locally.

Results like sub-moa and not crappy.  I'm just saying Ballistic Advantage barrels aren't all crap.

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Wondering why OP got 2142fps avg with Wolf steel case from the 12.5" when David Fortier's mv avg over Oehler 35P was 2431fps from his 12.5".

2142fps seems like something is wrong, even with Wolf using under-sized projectiles.

For example, I'm getting 2683fps with the 90gr TNT from my 12" suppressed, with 9 shots recorded.

100gr should be in the 2400-2500fps region from a 12.5", nowhere near 2100fps.

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Wondering why OP got 2142fps avg with Wolf steel case from the 12.5" when David Fortier's mv avg over Oehler 35P was 2431fps from his 12.5".

2142fps seems like something is wrong, even with Wolf using under-sized projectiles.

For example, I'm getting 2683fps with the 90gr TNT from my 12" suppressed, with 9 shots recorded.

100gr should be in the 2400-2500fps region from a 12.5", nowhere near 2100fps.

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Wondering why OP got 2142fps avg with Wolf steel case from the 12.5" when David Fortier's mv avg over Oehler 35P was 2431fps from his 12.5".

2142fps seems like something is wrong, even with Wolf using under-sized projectiles.

For example, I'm getting 2683fps with the 90gr TNT from my 12" suppressed, with 9 shots recorded.

100gr should be in the 2400-2500fps region from a 12.5", nowhere near 2100fps.