AR Sponsor
|
Mag's been available from LWRC direct, and from LWRC dealers for a few months now. Receiver sets....don't know just yet, but they're coming. Had an email exchange with the sales department of LWRC, the receiver sets are already ready to be purchased separately. Stated to just order them through a dealer, didn't state a price or anything to me. |
|
Quoted:
Had an email exchange with the sales department of LWRC, the receiver sets are already ready to be purchased separately. Stated to just order them through a dealer, didn't state a price or anything to me. Quoted:
Mag's been available from LWRC direct, and from LWRC dealers for a few months now. Receiver sets....don't know just yet, but they're coming. Had an email exchange with the sales department of LWRC, the receiver sets are already ready to be purchased separately. Stated to just order them through a dealer, didn't state a price or anything to me. Interesting. Wonder if there would be any interest for other calibers like Grendel. |
|
Quoted:
Interesting. Wonder if there would be any interest for other calibers like Grendel. Quoted:
Quoted:
Mag's been available from LWRC direct, and from LWRC dealers for a few months now. Receiver sets....don't know just yet, but they're coming. Had an email exchange with the sales department of LWRC, the receiver sets are already ready to be purchased separately. Stated to just order them through a dealer, didn't state a price or anything to me. Interesting. Wonder if there would be any interest for other calibers like Grendel. You can build anything on it that can be built on a standard AR15. A Grendel would benefit as well in a similar manner as the 6.8, especially if you use one of ARP's superbolts, or a similar one, where you can get up to pressures more comparable to the 5.56 or 6.8. ETA, Just put your Grendel barrel on the upper. If I go that route, I'm not going to get rid of my ARP barrel, no way, no how. I will just buy an lower and an upper receiver, and move the ARP barrel and bolt to the new receiver. |
|
Quoted:
You can build anything on it that can be built on a standard AR15. A Grendel would benefit as well in a similar manner as the 6.8, especially if you use one of ARP's superbolts, or a similar one, where you can get up to pressures more comparable to the 5.56 or 6.8. ETA, Just put your Grendel barrel on the upper. If I go that route, I'm not going to get rid of my ARP barrel, no way, no how. I will just buy an lower and an upper receiver, and move the ARP barrel and bolt to the new receiver. Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Mag's been available from LWRC direct, and from LWRC dealers for a few months now. Receiver sets....don't know just yet, but they're coming. Had an email exchange with the sales department of LWRC, the receiver sets are already ready to be purchased separately. Stated to just order them through a dealer, didn't state a price or anything to me. Interesting. Wonder if there would be any interest for other calibers like Grendel. You can build anything on it that can be built on a standard AR15. A Grendel would benefit as well in a similar manner as the 6.8, especially if you use one of ARP's superbolts, or a similar one, where you can get up to pressures more comparable to the 5.56 or 6.8. ETA, Just put your Grendel barrel on the upper. If I go that route, I'm not going to get rid of my ARP barrel, no way, no how. I will just buy an lower and an upper receiver, and move the ARP barrel and bolt to the new receiver. I meant mags specifically. Unless Grendel works out of 6.8 mags??? |
|
Quoted: I want to know how 6.5G functions in 6.8 PMAGs. On a side note, the mag springs are pretty robust. 120 rounds loaded, and I wish there was a LULA for it. ![]() ETA: I had to look up some side by side shots of the two cartridges, and info on dimensions, and I think that 6.5 is going to be a problem in the 6.8 PMAG, just due to the larger case diameter, in much the same way that stuffing 6.8 into a 5.56 magazine doesn't work very well. HOWEVER...I do think that, if a magazine manufacturer wanted to, they could make a metal 6.5 magazine to fit the LWRC magwell dimensions that would work pretty nicely, and would allow the same longer COAL benefits that the 6.8 benefits from in the LWRC magwell. Start calling your favorite magazine manufacturers about it. |
|
Quoted:
I meant mags specifically. Unless Grendel works out of 6.8 mags??? Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Mag's been available from LWRC direct, and from LWRC dealers for a few months now. Receiver sets....don't know just yet, but they're coming. Had an email exchange with the sales department of LWRC, the receiver sets are already ready to be purchased separately. Stated to just order them through a dealer, didn't state a price or anything to me. Interesting. Wonder if there would be any interest for other calibers like Grendel. You can build anything on it that can be built on a standard AR15. A Grendel would benefit as well in a similar manner as the 6.8, especially if you use one of ARP's superbolts, or a similar one, where you can get up to pressures more comparable to the 5.56 or 6.8. ETA, Just put your Grendel barrel on the upper. If I go that route, I'm not going to get rid of my ARP barrel, no way, no how. I will just buy an lower and an upper receiver, and move the ARP barrel and bolt to the new receiver. I meant mags specifically. Unless Grendel works out of 6.8 mags??? Most Grendel mags and 6.8 mags are the same as far as the bodies. The followers are different. Some folks have had success feeding one from the other even with the followers. I would think there is a solution though, or will be. |
|
Quoted:
^^^ If, by special, you mean everyone that lives in a top right quadrant green state (admittedly old map). Unfortunately, I'm a "grandfather" behind enemy lines in CT given that I'm stuck with my current lowers / can't get a Six8. http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l154/mikecleonard/StateNFALawMap.png List is wrong; SBR's are still currently illegal in MI (may change soon) Silencers are legal here. |
|
I'm concerned about the rise of the warrior cop who isn't a peacekeeper who protects and serves but put his or her safety first over and above the citizens they interact with.
There is no offing reason to have a 6.8 unless you're trying to kill. Period. I find that unsettling especially given the highly excitable warrior cops track record of a lack trigger control. Shame on the police department that thinks they need the kind of weapons reserved for SOCOM. |
|
Quoted:
I'm concerned about the rise of the warrior cop who isn't a peacekeeper who protects and serves but put his or her safety first over and above the citizens they interact with. There is no offing reason to have a 6.8 unless you're trying to kill. Period. I find that unsettling especially given the highly excitable warrior cops track record of a lack trigger control. Shame on the police department that thinks they need the kind of weapons reserved for SOCOM. They can kill you with a 5.56, or a shotgun, or a handgun, and don't forget their .308 sniper rifles. I understand what you're saying, but you're using liberal logic here in blaming the weapon, or the caliber for the mindset of the officers, and more importantly, the mindset of the system they operate under. The real concern is the system. That is something that needs to be set back in scope to something at the very least, pre 9/11, and really further than that. Every business has a "corporate culture", and like any other business, law enforcement has one as well. Until they get back to understanding that they are no different than us, we will continue to have those issues. One way to get back to basics, is to cut federal funding to state and local forces, and to cut ties altogether. |
|
You can build anything on it that can be built on a standard AR15. A Grendel would benefit as well in a similar manner as the 6.8, especially if you use one of ARP's superbolts, or a similar one, where you can get up to pressures more comparable to the 5.56 or 6.8.
ETA, Just put your Grendel barrel on the upper. If I go that route, I'm not going to get rid of my ARP barrel, no way, no how. I will just buy an lower and an upper receiver, and move the ARP barrel and bolt to the new receiver Indeed, I plan on making an AR pistol, using the Six8 upper/lower and a Bison Armory 11.5'' 1:7 twist barrel. Will have a fun time loading the 200 grain subsonic rounds through that
|
|
Quoted:
Indeed, I plan on making an AR pistol, using the Six8 upper/lower and a Bison Armory 11.5'' 1:7 twist barrel. Will have a fun time loading the 200 grain subsonic rounds through that ![]() Quoted:
You can build anything on it that can be built on a standard AR15. A Grendel would benefit as well in a similar manner as the 6.8, especially if you use one of ARP's superbolts, or a similar one, where you can get up to pressures more comparable to the 5.56 or 6.8.
ETA, Just put your Grendel barrel on the upper. If I go that route, I'm not going to get rid of my ARP barrel, no way, no how. I will just buy an lower and an upper receiver, and move the ARP barrel and bolt to the new receiver Indeed, I plan on making an AR pistol, using the Six8 upper/lower and a Bison Armory 11.5'' 1:7 twist barrel. Will have a fun time loading the 200 grain subsonic rounds through that ![]() That right there my friend, is the only barrel I would be willing to take my ARP barrel off for. |
|
Quoted:
They can kill you with a 5.56, or a shotgun, or a handgun, and don't forget their .308 sniper rifles. I understand what you're saying, but you're using liberal logic here in blaming the weapon, or the caliber for the mindset of the officers, and more importantly, the mindset of the system they operate under. The real concern is the system. That is something that needs to be set back in scope to something at the very least, pre 9/11, and really further than that. Every business has a "corporate culture", and like any other business, law enforcement has one as well. Until they get back to understanding that they are no different than us, we will continue to have those issues. One way to get back to basics, is to cut federal funding to state and local forces, and to cut ties altogether. Quoted:
Quoted:
I'm concerned about the rise of the warrior cop who isn't a peacekeeper who protects and serves but put his or her safety first over and above the citizens they interact with. There is no offing reason to have a 6.8 unless you're trying to kill. Period. I find that unsettling especially given the highly excitable warrior cops track record of a lack trigger control. Shame on the police department that thinks they need the kind of weapons reserved for SOCOM. They can kill you with a 5.56, or a shotgun, or a handgun, and don't forget their .308 sniper rifles. I understand what you're saying, but you're using liberal logic here in blaming the weapon, or the caliber for the mindset of the officers, and more importantly, the mindset of the system they operate under. The real concern is the system. That is something that needs to be set back in scope to something at the very least, pre 9/11, and really further than that. Every business has a "corporate culture", and like any other business, law enforcement has one as well. Until they get back to understanding that they are no different than us, we will continue to have those issues. One way to get back to basics, is to cut federal funding to state and local forces, and to cut ties altogether. A ball point pen can kill when used to stab but what is more effective at killing, a ball point pen or a machete? My point is that the 6.8 was developed for SOCOM to provide better killing power than the 5.56. Period. While snipers may very well be armed the .308s, maybe even the $25K a pop M110 package, the entire police department isn't armed with semi or select fire .308s. Ay issue is this: do we really want or need any police department armed as though they are soldiers? No. No, we don't. We don't have justification. Even in the "war against terrorism" odds are far greater that the lethal force of these weapons will be turned on our own citizenry before turning on any miscreant terrorists. In so far as "liberal thinking," liberals determine truth by feeling, not fact. Fact is the 6.8 was developed to kill. Period. Fact is that we do not need a department of police armed with short-barreled 6.8 weapons designed for sweeping constrained areas with lethal force. Police are to be peacekeepers, not potential death squads all suited up for hard knock visits. |
|
Quoted:
You're a liberal and need to shut the fuck up. 6.8 is a better choice for police than for soldiers. He has a point, but the caliber isn't the issue. Either caliber will kill, though the 6.8 will be better , all things being equal. At police firearm use distances, it's going to suck really bad to get hit by either. The issue is the mindset of the police and the justice system overall. Right now, it is a real problem. Right now there is an US vs Them attitude. That attitude used to be confined to the ghetto, inner cities, where gangs were running wild, and anybody you met could be the guy that killed you the second you turned your back. The problem, is that that sort of mindset, being on edge, might be necessary for that environment, which really was in some cases, a war zone ( police action type, little war ), it isn't necessary out in Bumbugger Ga., but it has been adopted there very much to the Federal dollars and the Federal policing mindset, where protecting the ruling class from the working class is the goal , rather than plain law enforcement. They have accepted not only money in a lot of the US now, but also the militarized tactics of oppression, suppression, and invasive raids. The courts have allowed it, and new ( rulings )on laws have not only made it ok, but the "right" thing to do. Military weapons are an extension of that, and to some degree, give some cops the big head and they begin to adopt the persona of a soldier rather than one of a traditional officer. The change is strange to witness. My town, very small, never had much money to do anything. The police force has always been more of the Andy Griffith type, Mayberry RFD if you will. Interaction with people, sitting around and talking to people in town, with the cops being like family and welcome anywhere, and always with a smile. Last year, they received funds from the Feds in excess of normal, they used those funds to buy new weapons, AR15s for the first time, and instead of the old used second hand patrol cars, they bought big black SUVS, with blacked out windows, rims the whole nine yards. They changed, ( all but one cop ) and we only have 5 cops. They no longer get out an walk the sidewalks, talk to people and smile like they did. Now, they cruise in those trucks ( looks more like Secret Service than cops ), and basically intimidate people. They have been harassing law abiding citizens that disagree with the mayor, and many other things. They won't even look at you, these same guys that used to be all smiles. Right now, there are complaints galore from citizens, sexual harassment charges against two of them, as well as abuse on those same two. The text messages were presented last week in the counsel meeting, and evidence of the intimidation has as well. I should mention, it is voter intimidation. In short order, they became the protection force for the ruling class, and the enemy of the citizen, complete with threats of arson on a home, and blaming it on a particular teen that was accused of arson before. That is on tape, and is actually on facebook. I don't know what's happening, but it isn't just here. It is nationwide and spreading. They are starting to believe, and to act like their powers are unlimited, and that they will be not held accountable for stepping over the line in order to rid the streets of their enemy. Those two officers, and the chief are about to be out of a job, and the mayor as well. The culture is becoming corrupt. There are still many good officers out there, but like here, the one good guy, was nearly forced out by the bad ones, and would have been, had these tapes not come to light. I don't have an answer for it all, or why, but it is happening. My county on the other hand, has a good number of good cops, and only a handful of bad ones, and that's gonna happen no matter what the job is. The county about 20 miles from me went through a similar thing about 10 years ago, but it has been cleaned up with a new Sheriff and a resetting of the roster. |
|
Quoted:
Fact is the 6.8 was developed to kill. Period. Actually it was developed to provide rapid incapacitation with minimum number of rounds fired. In a law enforcement environment with rapid access to emergency medical services that actually tends to be a higher probability of survival than when a larger number of shots are made on target. If they shoot someone 15 times and leave them to bleed out for an hour, it's not going to matter what ammo they shoot. |
|
Quoted:
Feel free to rejoin the discussion after you grow up, act your age, and are able to interact with your fellow vets. Quoted:
Quoted:
You're a liberal and need to shut the fuck up. 6.8 is a better choice for police than for soldiers. Feel free to rejoin the discussion after you grow up, act your age, and are able to interact with your fellow vets. How about you start another thread about the militarization of police. We need to quit sidetracking this thread |
|
That right there my friend, is the only barrel I would be willing to take my ARP barrel off for. This is the first I've seen of the Bison barrel. I like the 6.8 and enjoy shooting mine but I haven't been too involved with all the minutiae of chamber spec and twist rates. Anyway, isn't this 1x7 twist barrel counter intuitive to what we've been told regarding the 6.8? I was under the impression that only slower twists were safe with high velocity loads and even the original 1x10 twist was unsafe in some cases. I see the Bison website says the subsonic barrel is compatible with high performance loads as well. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
|
Quoted:
This is the first I've seen of the Bison barrel. I like the 6.8 and enjoy shooting mine but I haven't been too involved with all the minutiae of chamber spec and twist rates. Anyway, isn't this 1x7 twist barrel counter intuitive to what we've been told regarding the 6.8? I was under the impression that only slower twists were safe with high velocity loads and even the original 1x10 twist was unsafe in some cases. I see the Bison website says the subsonic barrel is compatible with high performance loads as well. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Quoted:
That right there my friend, is the only barrel I would be willing to take my ARP barrel off for. This is the first I've seen of the Bison barrel. I like the 6.8 and enjoy shooting mine but I haven't been too involved with all the minutiae of chamber spec and twist rates. Anyway, isn't this 1x7 twist barrel counter intuitive to what we've been told regarding the 6.8? I was under the impression that only slower twists were safe with high velocity loads and even the original 1x10 twist was unsafe in some cases. I see the Bison website says the subsonic barrel is compatible with high performance loads as well. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile There were two problems with the earlier barrels. The chamber Remington submitted to SAAMI being wrong, not the same as the original drawing, and the barrels they used were straight from the .270 shelf, and had the wrong land/groove ratio. The when the Spec II came out ( which was the original design, mostly ), they addressed the other portion by using barrels that had the right land/groove ratio, and those were found in the 1/11 twist. What Bison has done, is they have created a barrel with the right chamber, and the right land/groove ratio ( think surface contact, too much friction in the old 1/9.5 and 1/10 barrels), but with a fast twist to stabilize heavy bullets. |
|
Quoted:
There were two problems with the earlier barrels. The chamber Remington submitted to SAAMI being wrong, not the same as the original drawing, and the barrels they used were straight from the .270 shelf, and had the wrong land/groove ratio. The when the Spec II came out ( which was the original design, mostly ), they addressed the other portion by using barrels that had the right land/groove ratio, and those were found in the 1/11 twist. What Bison has done, is they have created a barrel with the right chamber, and the right land/groove ratio ( think surface contact, too much friction in the old 1/9.5 and 1/10 barrels), but with a fast twist to stabilize heavy bullets. Quoted:
Quoted:
That right there my friend, is the only barrel I would be willing to take my ARP barrel off for. This is the first I've seen of the Bison barrel. I like the 6.8 and enjoy shooting mine but I haven't been too involved with all the minutiae of chamber spec and twist rates. Anyway, isn't this 1x7 twist barrel counter intuitive to what we've been told regarding the 6.8? I was under the impression that only slower twists were safe with high velocity loads and even the original 1x10 twist was unsafe in some cases. I see the Bison website says the subsonic barrel is compatible with high performance loads as well. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile There were two problems with the earlier barrels. The chamber Remington submitted to SAAMI being wrong, not the same as the original drawing, and the barrels they used were straight from the .270 shelf, and had the wrong land/groove ratio. The when the Spec II came out ( which was the original design, mostly ), they addressed the other portion by using barrels that had the right land/groove ratio, and those were found in the 1/11 twist. What Bison has done, is they have created a barrel with the right chamber, and the right land/groove ratio ( think surface contact, too much friction in the old 1/9.5 and 1/10 barrels), but with a fast twist to stabilize heavy bullets. Interesting. So basically much of the info about twist rates is all wrong and the pressure problems are all based on surface contact rather than twist? I hate to think how many people bought barrels based on flawed opinions that were being touted as facts. |
|
Quoted:
Interesting. So basically much of the info about twist rates is all wrong and the pressure problems are all based on surface contact rather than twist? I hate to think how many people bought barrels based on flawed opinions that were being touted as facts. Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
That right there my friend, is the only barrel I would be willing to take my ARP barrel off for. This is the first I've seen of the Bison barrel. I like the 6.8 and enjoy shooting mine but I haven't been too involved with all the minutiae of chamber spec and twist rates. Anyway, isn't this 1x7 twist barrel counter intuitive to what we've been told regarding the 6.8? I was under the impression that only slower twists were safe with high velocity loads and even the original 1x10 twist was unsafe in some cases. I see the Bison website says the subsonic barrel is compatible with high performance loads as well. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile There were two problems with the earlier barrels. The chamber Remington submitted to SAAMI being wrong, not the same as the original drawing, and the barrels they used were straight from the .270 shelf, and had the wrong land/groove ratio. The when the Spec II came out ( which was the original design, mostly ), they addressed the other portion by using barrels that had the right land/groove ratio, and those were found in the 1/11 twist. What Bison has done, is they have created a barrel with the right chamber, and the right land/groove ratio ( think surface contact, too much friction in the old 1/9.5 and 1/10 barrels), but with a fast twist to stabilize heavy bullets. Interesting. So basically much of the info about twist rates is all wrong and the pressure problems are all based on surface contact rather than twist? I hate to think how many people bought barrels based on flawed opinions that were being touted as facts. Not exactly. The vast majority of the barrels available with the right land/groove ratio were 1/11-1/12, with virtually no 1/10 barrels that were correct. There was so much confusion trying to guide a new buyer into the correct spec setup, that it was easier to standardize on the 1/11, and since all of the 1/11 barrels were spec II and had the right ratio, it was less confusing to the buyer, therefore, buyers were told to look for a 1/11 barrel. That made it simple. The 1/11 barrels also stabilized the lighter .277 bullets better, and allowed a bigger range of bullets to be used. There really should have never been any confusion over the chambers, since it's the same exact scenario as 5.56/223. |
|
Quoted:
Feel free to rejoin the discussion after you grow up, act your age, and are able to interact with your fellow vets. Quoted:
Quoted:
You're a liberal and need to shut the fuck up. 6.8 is a better choice for police than for soldiers. Feel free to rejoin the discussion after you grow up, act your age, and are able to interact with your fellow vets.
|
|
On to other topics...
Quoted:
You can build anything on it that can be built on a standard AR15. A Grendel would benefit as well in a similar manner as the 6.8, especially if you use one of ARP's superbolts, or a similar one, where you can get up to pressures more comparable to the 5.56 or 6.8. ETA, Just put your Grendel barrel on the upper. If I go that route, I'm not going to get rid of my ARP barrel, no way, no how. I will just buy an lower and an upper receiver, and move the ARP barrel and bolt to the new receiver. Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Mag's been available from LWRC direct, and from LWRC dealers for a few months now. Receiver sets....don't know just yet, but they're coming. Had an email exchange with the sales department of LWRC, the receiver sets are already ready to be purchased separately. Stated to just order them through a dealer, didn't state a price or anything to me. Interesting. Wonder if there would be any interest for other calibers like Grendel. You can build anything on it that can be built on a standard AR15. A Grendel would benefit as well in a similar manner as the 6.8, especially if you use one of ARP's superbolts, or a similar one, where you can get up to pressures more comparable to the 5.56 or 6.8. ETA, Just put your Grendel barrel on the upper. If I go that route, I'm not going to get rid of my ARP barrel, no way, no how. I will just buy an lower and an upper receiver, and move the ARP barrel and bolt to the new receiver. So, forgive me for not being as "up" on the Six8 platform as others, though I believe I've asked this question before in regards to it: Is the Six8 receiver set then capable of using a standard 5.56MM bolt and barrel? I know everyone's excited about 6.8SPC becoming a bigger player, but I'm wondering if these receivers wouldn't also be an opportunity to use and furthermore develop more 80-90gr. rounds in 5.56MM that have previously been too long for magazine loading in traditional platforms. ~Augee |
|
Augee,
Good thoughts on using the new Six8 specs to further develop the 5.56 cartridge. Along those lines it might be nice to see a dedicated 5.56 mag that's built of thicker heavier material. Think of the durability of a steel magazine with enhanced feed lips built for the larger mag well... Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
|
Quoted:
Is the Six8 receiver set then capable of using a standard 5.56MM bolt and barrel? I know everyone's excited about 6.8SPC becoming a bigger player, but I'm wondering if these receivers wouldn't also be an opportunity to use and furthermore develop more 80-90gr. rounds in 5.56MM that have previously been too long for magazine loading in traditional platforms. ~Augee Looking at the OAL I am thinking no. Unless they come up with a metal mag I think the pmags are still a bit shy for the long bullets. I was thinking the exact same thing about the heavy bullets. How about a 22-6.8 with a 75gr amax http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_121/624548_.html&page=1&sr=0 |
|
Quoted:
Feel free to rejoin the discussion after you grow up, act your age, and are able to interact with your fellow vets. Quoted:
Quoted:
You're a liberal and need to shut the fuck up. 6.8 is a better choice for police than for soldiers. Feel free to rejoin the discussion after you grow up, act your age, and are able to interact with your fellow vets. You should probably stick to not talking, makes you sound smarter. |
|
Quoted:
Augee, Good thoughts on using the new Six8 specs to further develop the 5.56 cartridge. Along those lines it might be nice to see a dedicated 5.56 mag that's built of thicker heavier material. Think of the durability of a steel magazine with enhanced feed lips built for the larger mag well... Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile I like the way you guys think. Although, we're too late in the evolution of the AR magwell to make that kind of change. I think Six8 could open a lot of doors, but I don''t think it will. This receiver setup could also revolutionize 7.62x39 as well, given the chance. Still won't happen. |
|
Quoted:
I like the way you guys think. Although, we're too late in the evolution of the AR magwell to make that kind of change. I think Six8 could open a lot of doors, but I don''t think it will. This receiver setup could also revolutionize 7.62x39 as well, given the chance. Still won't happen. Quoted:
Quoted:
Augee, Good thoughts on using the new Six8 specs to further develop the 5.56 cartridge. Along those lines it might be nice to see a dedicated 5.56 mag that's built of thicker heavier material. Think of the durability of a steel magazine with enhanced feed lips built for the larger mag well... Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile I like the way you guys think. Although, we're too late in the evolution of the AR magwell to make that kind of change. I think Six8 could open a lot of doors, but I don''t think it will. This receiver setup could also revolutionize 7.62x39 as well, given the chance. Still won't happen. I'm not saying we'll see a mass exodus away from the legacy magwell but I think there'd be a market in some circles for a "heavy duty" 5.56 magazine. And, as mentioned, wildcatters would likely be happy to have a platform for their 6.5 Hagar, etc. |
|
Quoted:
Meh, pay it no mind. Just go to our LWRC pic thread and gaze at how much the owners love our M6s, REPRs, and Six8s. Quoted:
Quoted:
WOW this escalated quickly!! Adam -LWRCi There is even a lot of love of the LWRC rifles in this thread, namely the awesome Six8 platform.
|
|
Quoted:
Meh, pay it no mind. Just go to our LWRC pic thread and gaze at how much the owners love our M6s, REPRs, and Six8s. Quoted:
Quoted:
WOW this escalated quickly!! Adam -LWRCi Shoot I check it daily. We feel the love. Just wait for Shot Show. We have some amazing stuff coming out!!!! |
|
Quoted:
Shoot I check it daily. We feel the love. Just wait for Shot Show. We have some amazing stuff coming out!!!! Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
WOW this escalated quickly!! Adam -LWRCi Shoot I check it daily. We feel the love. Just wait for Shot Show. We have some amazing stuff coming out!!!! And announcements too, I'll bet |
|
Quoted:
WOW this escalated quickly!! Adam -LWRCi Quoted:
WOW this escalated quickly!! Adam -LWRCi So I emailed around and have been told only the upper receiver is for sale separately. So it looks like no builds with his lower unless you buy a gun from you guys. Here is the reply I got from a dealer after the first two said no We emailed our rep for information and pricing on the lower & upper and this is the response we got back from LWRC:
I was just informed today that we no longer sell the Six8 lowers separately at all. We do sell the new Six8 uppers, however this is proprietary to the Six8 platform so without a Six8 lower it is not very useful. The M6A2 556 is not a proprietary platform. I would not recommend building the new Six8 versus buying it complete to avoid confusion with our old “6.8” platform. |
|
Quoted: Shoot I check it daily. We feel the love. Just wait for Shot Show. We have some amazing stuff coming out!!!! Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: WOW this escalated quickly!! Adam -LWRCi Shoot I check it daily. We feel the love. Just wait for Shot Show. We have some amazing stuff coming out!!!! |
|
Quoted:
So I emailed around and have been told only the upper receiver is for sale separately. So it looks like no builds with his lower unless you buy a gun from you guys. Here is the reply I got from a dealer after the first two said no Quoted:
Quoted:
WOW this escalated quickly!! Adam -LWRCi So I emailed around and have been told only the upper receiver is for sale separately. So it looks like no builds with his lower unless you buy a gun from you guys. Here is the reply I got from a dealer after the first two said no We emailed our rep for information and pricing on the lower & upper and this is the response we got back from LWRC:
I was just informed today that we no longer sell the Six8 lowers separately at all. We do sell the new Six8 uppers, however this is proprietary to the Six8 platform so without a Six8 lower it is not very useful. The M6A2 556 is not a proprietary platform. I would not recommend building the new Six8 versus buying it complete to avoid confusion with our old “6.8” platform. So after how ever many months they now say no lower receivers? |
|
Quoted: So after how ever many months they now say no lower receivers? Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: WOW this escalated quickly!! Adam -LWRCi So I emailed around and have been told only the upper receiver is for sale separately. So it looks like no builds with his lower unless you buy a gun from you guys. Here is the reply I got from a dealer after the first two said no We emailed our rep for information and pricing on the lower & upper and this is the response we got back from LWRC: I was just informed today that we no longer sell the Six8 lowers separately at all. We do sell the new Six8 uppers, however this is proprietary to the Six8 platform so without a Six8 lower it is not very useful. The M6A2 556 is not a proprietary platform. I would not recommend building the new Six8 versus buying it complete to avoid confusion with our old "6.8” platform. So after how ever many months they now say no lower receivers? |
|
Quoted:
Yeah, I'm going to wait to hear the story from Adam, not a dealer. Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
WOW this escalated quickly!! Adam -LWRCi So I emailed around and have been told only the upper receiver is for sale separately. So it looks like no builds with his lower unless you buy a gun from you guys. Here is the reply I got from a dealer after the first two said no We emailed our rep for information and pricing on the lower & upper and this is the response we got back from LWRC:
I was just informed today that we no longer sell the Six8 lowers separately at all. We do sell the new Six8 uppers, however this is proprietary to the Six8 platform so without a Six8 lower it is not very useful. The M6A2 556 is not a proprietary platform. I would not recommend building the new Six8 versus buying it complete to avoid confusion with our old "6.8” platform. So after how ever many months they now say no lower receivers? I would like to hear it to and have another email in with Logan of LWRC. I dont think they would make this up as I contacted them specifically about those receivers. I am pretty frustrated about not being able to get a answer. My timeline went something like this. See this thread Email Rainier and a dealer off of Snipershide both which say they cant get them Email LWRC and ask about receivers. Am told that they are available but all pricing/order info has to go through a dealer. Tell them I have emailed several. LWRC assures me New Frontier Armory can help me. Email New Frontier and they check with LWRC and give me the response I emailed Logan back. This is so silly. All I wanted was some pricing for the damn things |
|
Since we don't do direct sales we can only give out MSRP. For a sales price you need to contact a dealer like the ones your listed. They would than inturn contact us for their cost. Once that happens they can quote you a price that they want to sell ir for. Right now we are working on pricing for complete receiver sets. Once we have this we will get the information to our dealers. Sorry for the headache and miscomms. They will be available I just don't have an ETA. This is a new and exciting platform and to see where it can go is awesome. Bare with us and you all will be rewarded.
Adam- |
AR Sponsor


