Warning

 

Close
Confirm Action

Are you sure you wish to do this?

Cancel Confirm
AR15.COM
AR Sponsor
Previous Page
/ 4
Next Page
11/24/2009 7:29:15 PM EDT
[#1]
Anyone have any word when the new Carbine length URX is comming out?  The new version has built in QD swivel sockets and is slightly longer on the front end to fully cover the gas tube.  Wes?
11/24/2009 10:11:47 PM EDT
[#2]
Quoted:

"...new carbine URX's...?" I assume you mean for the M4 length, I would not wait becuase the few cosmetic changes that we (KAC) are considering for the M4 length URX are only "on paper" at this point. The M4 URX as Wes has so well illustrated above is all that you will see for a long time. But the good news here is that we have them on-the-shelf and ready to ship.
Also ready to go are the mid and rifle lengths.

By the way, what Wes and Paul have done with their timing thing illustrated above is how I have done all my personals as well. It just looks and feels better as well as being bed-rock solid.


11/24/2009 11:03:10 PM EDT
[#3]
11/25/2009 5:07:18 PM EDT
[#4]
Quoted:
Has anyone installed a URX only to take it off due to disatisfaction?
I have a URX II sitting next to a 6933 right now.
I've had DD Lites, an Omega, KAC RAS, and a VLTOR VIS.

Why on earth is this so wide?

Would like to know before I drop $200 on just installing this biznitch.

ETA pic thread:
http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h74/MishelleLeQuebec/latest044.jpg


I have a couple and find it to be the least cumbersome of all brands you have mentioned which I have used all.  I have the rifle length around a CLE douglas and its my lightest and most versatile setup.  Never had it snag or bind on anything.  YMMV as most people's do.
11/25/2009 7:15:53 PM EDT
[#5]
Does anyone have an exact measurement on the width of these rails ?
11/26/2009 7:18:07 AM EDT
[#6]
I just measured this one and its little bigger than 2.125" WITHOUT panels (2.5" with KAC Panels)

For a frame of reference, the DD Omega with SCAR panels is roughly the size of the URX II without.

http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h74/MishelleLeQuebec/urxfront.jpg

Anyone have a reason why this is a good design? this width is somehow superior?

11/26/2009 7:29:39 AM EDT
[#7]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Has anyone installed a URX only to take it off due to disatisfaction?
I have a URX II sitting next to a 6933 right now.
I've had DD Lites, an Omega, KAC RAS, and a VLTOR VIS.

Why on earth is this so wide?

Would like to know before I drop $200 on just installing this biznitch.

ETA pic thread:
http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h74/MishelleLeQuebec/latest044.jpg


I have a couple and find it to be the least cumbersome of all brands you have mentioned which I have used all.  I have the rifle length around a CLE douglas and its my lightest and most versatile setup.  Never had it snag or bind on anything.  YMMV as most people's do.


I dont know how versatile a handguard is when:
1. The amount of installing gunsmiths is limited
2. "They are tough*" for gunsmiths themselves to install
3. There is no user-level dis&ass

I dont doubt the ability of you or your set up, but those are some negatives in terms of versatility. Its not like I would be able to swap it out on another upper in a matter of minutes, though I'm sure someone here will prove me wrong.
11/26/2009 12:44:12 PM EDT
[#8]
I need a carbine URX and a rifle length urx right now, anyone have them in stock?
11/26/2009 3:17:21 PM EDT
[#9]


7.5" S/S NOVESKE HIDING INSIDE A CARBINE LENGTH URX.

GOOD SHOOTING,

WES
11/26/2009 8:30:15 PM EDT
[#10]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Has anyone installed a URX only to take it off due to disatisfaction?
I have a URX II sitting next to a 6933 right now.
I've had DD Lites, an Omega, KAC RAS, and a VLTOR VIS.

Why on earth is this so wide?

Would like to know before I drop $200 on just installing this biznitch.

ETA pic thread:
http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h74/MishelleLeQuebec/latest044.jpg


I have a couple and find it to be the least cumbersome of all brands you have mentioned which I have used all.  I have the rifle length around a CLE douglas and its my lightest and most versatile setup.  Never had it snag or bind on anything.  YMMV as most people's do.


I dont know how versatile a handguard is when:
1. The amount of installing gunsmiths is limited
2. "They are tough*" for gunsmiths themselves to install
3. There is no user-level dis&ass

I dont doubt the ability of you or your set up, but those are some negatives in terms of versatility. Its not like I would be able to swap it out on another upper in a matter of minutes, though I'm sure someone here will prove me wrong.


There are other ways to define versatile...
11/27/2009 6:07:24 AM EDT
[#11]
Quoted:
I need a carbine URX and a rifle length urx right now, anyone have them in stock?


We (KMC) are offering our Dealer and Distributors a "Bakers Dozen" (12 plus one free) special discounted/volumne price on M4 URX's that includes a free wrench if they order two sets of the Baker Dozen (26 total rail sets).
Obviously I can not quote what their selling prices may be to you, but they should be low enough to make your socks roll up and down if they are pasing on our record discount on to retail their customers.
11/27/2009 9:04:27 AM EDT
[#12]
11/27/2009 9:21:24 AM EDT
[#13]
Quoted:
Quoted:
I need a carbine URX and a rifle length urx right now, anyone have them in stock?


We (KMC) are offering our Dealer and Distributors a "Bakers Dozen" (12 plus one free) special discounted/volumne price on M4 URX's that includes a free wrench if they order two sets of the Baker Dozen (26 total rail sets).
Obviously I can not quote what their selling prices may be to you, but they should be low enough to make your socks roll up and down if they are pasing on our record discount on to retail their customers.


Thanks coldblue.

Is Lawmens & Shooters going to be included in this?  Would Knights ever consider "pre-matching" their upper receivers to the URX's for "NO GAP"?  I know it's tedious by trial & error to hand check multiple receivers and URX's, but you folks should be able to time/dial them in for consistency with your uppers?  Just a thought.  





11/28/2009 11:28:49 AM EDT
[#14]
Quoted:
I just measured this one and its little bigger than 2.125" WITHOUT panels (2.5" with KAC Panels)

For a frame of reference, the DD Omega with SCAR panels is roughly the size of the URX II without.

http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h74/MishelleLeQuebec/urxfront.jpg

Anyone have a reason why this is a good design? this width is somehow superior?



Sorry, guess I should have explained.  I have NEVER worried about .125 of an inch of width on anything, barrel or rail.  I also have never worried about a 1/16 of a pound on a rifle.  

When I said versatile, I meant 1. Capable of doing many things competently. 2. Having varied uses or serving many functions, .i.e, I like the fact that the front sight is integrated, has integrated sling mounts, a removable lower rail.  Those options make the price point worth it to me than to buy another rail and have to add those on and make it bulkier.

Everyone can have their own opinion as I am not tryng to force mine upon anyone, just trying to add my own experience with the rail itself.  And about needing to get it sent off to be installed and not being able to put it on another rifle, well I have never had that problem as when I build something, I build it the way I wanna keep it. IIf the barrel wears out after a couple of years, chances are that I am gonna be sending it off anyways to get put on.   Again, YMMV.
11/28/2009 11:30:12 AM EDT
[#15]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Has anyone installed a URX only to take it off due to disatisfaction?
I have a URX II sitting next to a 6933 right now.
I've had DD Lites, an Omega, KAC RAS, and a VLTOR VIS.

Why on earth is this so wide?

Would like to know before I drop $200 on just installing this biznitch.

ETA pic thread:
http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h74/MishelleLeQuebec/latest044.jpg


I have a couple and find it to be the least cumbersome of all brands you have mentioned which I have used all.  I have the rifle length around a CLE douglas and its my lightest and most versatile setup.  Never had it snag or bind on anything.  YMMV as most people's do.


I dont know how versatile a handguard is when:
1. The amount of installing gunsmiths is limited
2. "They are tough*" for gunsmiths themselves to install
3. There is no user-level dis&ass

I dont doubt the ability of you or your set up, but those are some negatives in terms of versatility. Its not like I would be able to swap it out on another upper in a matter of minutes, though I'm sure someone here will prove me wrong.


All good points.
I don't build upper myself so its a nonproblem for me.
11/29/2009 5:01:15 AM EDT
[#16]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
I need a carbine URX and a rifle length urx right now, anyone have them in stock?


We (KMC) are offering our Dealer and Distributors a "Bakers Dozen" (12 plus one free) special discounted/volumne price on M4 URX's that includes a free wrench if they order two sets of the Baker Dozen (26 total rail sets).
Obviously I can not quote what their selling prices may be to you, but they should be low enough to make your socks roll up and down if they are pasing on our record discount on to retail their customers.


Thanks coldblue.

Is Lawmens & Shooters going to be included in this?  Would Knights ever consider "pre-matching" their upper receivers to the URX's for "NO GAP"?  I know it's tedious by trial & error to hand check multiple receivers and URX's, but you folks should be able to time/dial them in for consistency with your uppers?  Just a thought.  

You asked about LM's & Shooters.  Yes, the Bakers Dozen is available from them.
As far as "pre-matching," I think that sort of custom work is more in tune with Companies like MSTN/Wes Grant.  They are top notch, and I'd have them work on my personals anytime.





11/29/2009 5:20:30 AM EDT
[#17]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
I need a carbine URX and a rifle length urx right now, anyone have them in stock?


We (KMC) are offering our Dealer and Distributors a "Bakers Dozen" (12 plus one free) special discounted/volumne price on M4 URX's that includes a free wrench if they order two sets of the Baker Dozen (26 total rail sets).
Obviously I can not quote what their selling prices may be to you, but they should be low enough to make your socks roll up and down if they are pasing on our record discount on to retail their customers.


Thanks coldblue.

Is Lawmens & Shooters going to be included in this?  Would Knights ever consider "pre-matching" their upper receivers to the URX's for "NO GAP"?  I know it's tedious by trial & error to hand check multiple receivers and URX's, but you folks should be able to time/dial them in for consistency with your uppers?  Just a thought.  

You asked about LM's & Shooters.  Yes, the Bakers Dozen is available from them.
As far as "pre-matching," I think that sort of custom work is more in tune with Companies like MSTN/Wes Grant.  They are top notch, and I'd have them work on my personals anytime.







Yeah...make sure you keep Wes stocked up on all his URX's.  At the moment, he is in work on a build #2 for me.  

I got lucky and had a new Colt/Diemaco M4 upper receiver match up perfectly and slightly snug with a rifle length URX, no machining needed.  

Are URX's now shipping with new barrel nut style, or the original steel 4-notch still?


11/29/2009 1:28:25 PM EDT
[#18]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
I need a carbine URX and a rifle length urx right now, anyone have them in stock?


We (KMC) are offering our Dealer and Distributors a "Bakers Dozen" (12 plus one free) special discounted/volumne price on M4 URX's that includes a free wrench if they order two sets of the Baker Dozen (26 total rail sets).
Obviously I can not quote what their selling prices may be to you, but they should be low enough to make your socks roll up and down if they are pasing on our record discount on to retail their customers.


Thanks coldblue.

Is Lawmens & Shooters going to be included in this?  Would Knights ever consider "pre-matching" their upper receivers to the URX's for "NO GAP"?  I know it's tedious by trial & error to hand check multiple receivers and URX's, but you folks should be able to time/dial them in for consistency with your uppers?  Just a thought.  

You asked about LM's & Shooters.  Yes, the Bakers Dozen is available from them.
As far as "pre-matching," I think that sort of custom work is more in tune with Companies like MSTN/Wes Grant.  They are top notch, and I'd have them work on my personals anytime.







Yeah...make sure you keep Wes stocked up on all his URX's.  At the moment, he is in work on a build #2 for me.  

I got lucky and had a new Colt/Diemaco M4 upper receiver match up perfectly and slightly snug with a rifle length URX, no machining needed.  

Are URX's now shipping with new barrel nut style, or the original steel 4-notch still?


[/quo
The M4 URX uses the original steel nut so later an M203 can be mounted.  Being that the M4 gas block sits in front of the rail forend, there is no reason for the type 2 nut.  The type 2 nut just makes it easier to deal with gas block taper pins in the mid length if you are using a LP gas block under the rail.
12/6/2009 8:38:51 AM EDT
[#19]
Vltor MUR
URX II Rifle length
Noveske 16" Stainless recon (Ion Bond)
KAC TT

Assmebled at Lawmens



12/6/2009 8:13:07 PM EDT
[#20]


So nice...... so freakin nice!

12/8/2009 12:01:02 PM EDT
[#21]


As coldblue alluded to, the Baker's Dozen special.


and an older photo of a lower and upper I no longer own...
12/8/2009 7:00:23 PM EDT
[#22]
Where can I get one of those KAC folding front sight/gas blocks?
12/9/2009 3:05:45 AM EDT
[#23]
Quoted:
Where can I get one of those KAC folding front sight/gas blocks?


check with wes at mstn,prob your best shot.
12/10/2009 4:05:16 AM EDT
[#24]
We (KMC) will entertain "Group Buys" of the Baker's Dozen special (see above) if there are no dealers in your area.
Just email me at;
[email protected]
12/11/2009 4:19:34 AM EDT
[#25]
Quoted:
We (KMC) will entertain "Group Buys" of the Baker's Dozen special (see above) if there are no dealers in your area.
Just email me at;
[email protected]


Any interest in Group Buys..?
12/11/2009 12:49:58 PM EDT
[#26]










The newer rail is on the left.
12/11/2009 4:41:50 PM EDT
[#28]
not enough dimpling
12/11/2009 4:44:10 PM EDT
[#29]
Quoted:
not enough dimpling


You can't dimple enough to get the weight of that 14.5" colt lightweight barrel.



12/12/2009 12:37:34 AM EDT
[#30]
Quoted:
Quoted:
not enough dimpling


You can't dimple enough to get the weight of that 14.5" colt lightweight barrel.





you have some URX porn u need to show off

12/14/2009 8:41:21 AM EDT
[#31]
Anyone know what's the deal with the new part number on the Mid-length URX II? Did they modify the design or anything?



Old - 23375

New - something something - 3
12/15/2009 2:58:50 PM EDT
[#32]
Quoted:
Anyone know what's the deal with the new part number on the Mid-length URX II? Did they modify the design or anything?

Old - 23375
New - something something - 3


Email me in the mornig at:
[email protected]
12/18/2009 8:53:29 AM EDT
[#33]
Quoted:
Anyone know what's the deal with the new part number on the Mid-length URX II? Did they modify the design or anything?

Old - 23375
New - something something - 3


Your reference to P/N: 23375 applies only to the Mid-Length upper URX machined part.  This is sometimes lased on the part for identification purposes.  However, we are currently transitioning to marking the primary assembly component with the entire assembly P/N to avoid such confusion.  But this new practice is becoming a classic “six of one, half-dozen of another” scenario.

The complete Mid-Length URX assembly (upper, lower, barrel nut, screws, and handguard panels) available for sale is 20549-3.
2/12/2010 8:03:09 AM EDT
[#34]
bump for more awesomeness
2/12/2010 8:21:57 AM EDT
[#35]




2/12/2010 8:22:48 AM EDT
[#36]
2/12/2010 9:45:00 AM EDT
[#37]






2/22/2010 4:48:51 PM EDT
[#40]
2/22/2010 5:03:22 PM EDT
[#41]

3/6/2010 1:53:12 PM EDT
[#42]

Sign up to continue the discussion

Create a free account to share your thoughts, follow topics, and connect with the AR15.COM community.

Already a member? Sign In

Previous Page
/ 4
Next Page
AR Sponsor