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12/1/2005 6:37:57 AM EDT
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5th and 6th down on the left.  M231's.  Fires from open bolt.  20+lb trigger pull.  3 recoil springs.
Astronomical rate of fire.  It can empty a 30 round mag in less than 1.5 seconds.  The threads located where the front sight should be are for the rear door of the Bradley.  

12/1/2005 12:40:00 PM EDT
[#2]

Quoted:
Ductapeman and Elkie,

Thanks for the responses.  I thought this weapon was something else because it appears to have a machined aluminum receiver like the AR-10 and AR-15 rather than the steel stampings of the AR-16 and AR-18.  This gun appears to have very little in common with the AR-16s below it.  I was curious if it was perhaps the AR-14, which presumably had an aluminum receiver.

Regards,

Greg





It looks different in that it is a tool room experiment.  Notice the other examples are later versions, the gas piston system was part of the design, rather then added to the rifle after the fact.

Would have to look it up to be sure, but I bet this rifle was the first example of the AR-16/AR-18 series.
12/2/2005 10:59:15 AM EDT
[#3]
Elkie,

As always thanks for sorting out these issues.  For some reason the lesser known Armalite designs are of interest to me and it's nice to finally see some pictures and info about them.

Greg
12/2/2005 11:15:57 AM EDT
[#4]
First AR15 (ca1974)I ever fired had the charging handle in the carrying handle. Does anyone make that upper??
12/2/2005 11:34:15 AM EDT
[#5]

Quoted:
First AR15 (ca1974)I ever fired had the charging handle in the carrying handle. Does anyone make that upper??



If the book "The Black Rifle" is to be believed, then only around 17 original Armalite AR-15s were made, and as far as I know, these would have been the only AR-15s produced with the charging handle in that location, so you had your hands on quite a rare specimen.

It would be really cool if a commemorative edition of Armalite's original AR-15 were released, with the old charging handle placement, slick side receiver and round handguards and maybe even a straight 25 round magazine to go with it!  Sorry, I'll come back to reality now...

Greg
12/2/2005 9:01:22 PM EDT
[#6]
The weapon in between the AR-17 and AR-16 is not another AR-16, but the AR-12. From Small Arms Review, Vol. 1 no. 4, which also has several picture of it.

When Armalite sold the gas system patent to Colt, Stoner had been working on a new design that would allow a lighter receiver. In order to avoid a patent problem, he welded up the gas system and introduced a piston type system to unlock the bolt head and continue the recoil. AR-12 is in 7.62 x 51 mm, and the action is very smooth. Only one was built and the right handguard is missing.
12/3/2005 5:48:29 AM EDT
[#7]

Quoted:
The weapon in between the AR-17 and AR-16 is not another AR-16, but the AR-12. From Small Arms Review, Vol. 1 no. 4, which also has several picture of it.

When Armalite sold the gas system patent to Colt, Stoner had been working on a new design that would allow a lighter receiver. In order to avoid a patent problem, he welded up the gas system and introduced a piston type system to unlock the bolt head and continue the recoil. AR-12 is in 7.62 x 51 mm, and the action is very smooth. Only one was built and the right handguard is missing.



You got me again, that is what I get for going by memory and not looking it up.
12/22/2005 6:25:12 PM EDT
[#8]
why was this untacked?
12/22/2005 6:33:27 PM EDT
[#9]
Because it has not had a new post in almost 3 weeks?
12/22/2005 6:42:05 PM EDT
[#10]
SMGLee, can I put some of these photos in the retro pic thread?
12/24/2005 2:30:35 PM EDT
[#11]
***I'm speechless***


can you say: "toy boat, toy boat, toy boat, toy boat, toy boat". real fast?

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