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4/29/2019 4:13:45 PM EDT
[#1]
Received and paid today
4/29/2019 5:11:26 PM EDT
[#2]
Nothing yet.

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Got mine.
4/29/2019 7:16:52 PM EDT
[#3]
Paying tomorrow
4/29/2019 8:45:19 PM EDT
[#4]
That's gay... I waited to long to check back...
4/29/2019 10:55:05 PM EDT
[#5]
Yup got mine also this afternoon
4/30/2019 3:06:54 PM EDT
[#6]
Just paid for it this afternoon, I also asked Tina if the do gray anodizing but she said they don’t but they can keep it in the white (it takes $5 off the cost) I’m doing an early A2 clone so I’ll send the lower to SNF to get gray anodized. Can’t wait to get it!!!
5/7/2019 10:14:34 PM EDT
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For those that were in the first batch of these they did, what was the ballpark timeframe until you had them in hand.
5/9/2019 6:56:16 PM EDT
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JoeBud, it was about four weeks.
5/10/2019 6:55:56 AM EDT
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Seems about right...
5/14/2019 11:55:49 AM EDT
[#10]
I paid 2 weeks ago when I got the invoice and was told today it would be a few more weeks
5/14/2019 4:54:47 PM EDT
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Well that’s disappointing
5/14/2019 9:42:42 PM EDT
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This is why we can’t have nice things. :) I’m just grateful they offered these up again. I can handle a few more weeks.
5/14/2019 10:28:11 PM EDT
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This is why we can’t have nice things. :) I’m just grateful they offered these up again. I can handle a few more weeks.
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I’m entitled to say it’s disappointing since I paid my invoice within an hour of it being e-mailed.
5/15/2019 6:19:50 AM EDT
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They are worth waiting for. I built my A2 off of one and tucked an A4 in the safe for a rainy day. Ordered another set this last time around.
5/15/2019 8:53:16 PM EDT
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Black Creek Precision produces up to 20K lowers a year for different retailers across the country.

These features look familiar?  Look at the close up pics of the mag catch.  I saw I/O 9mm lowers being produced during a tour of the facility before the first run.

https://interordnance.com/product/ar15-stripped-lower/

You have to realize if an order for 2K lowers comes in to BCP, this run can get bumped.  That said I doubt it has happened.  The other wild card in production is the anodizer.  BCP doesnt do this in house and the folks that do the job are excellent.  I dont know who that is but its the same situ with them, depends on how busy they are. With batches like this BCP will wait until all are paid before beginning production.  It takes time to set up the engraving and they dont do a couple then switch up and come back and do a few more.

Patience will pay off in a high quality lower you will be proud to own.  Its kinda like getting a meal at a 5 star restaurant, quality takes time.  It will be worth it fellers.
5/15/2019 10:15:14 PM EDT
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Me saying “well that’s disappointing” isn’t offensive or anything. It’s not even impatient. I’m not picketing them or posting some bitchfest in GD. It’s not like BCP is gonna read this and say “forget it! No more clone lowers!”

5/16/2019 12:56:41 AM EDT
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Me saying “well that’s disappointing” isn’t offensive or anything. It’s not even impatient. I’m not picketing them or posting some bitchfest in GD. It’s not like BCP is gonna read this and say “forget it! No more clone lowers!”

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Very true my friend, no offense taken.  I was hoping to explain why it may take a bit if it does run long.  BCP will continue making these because they are finally realizing the market is there.  When jrsaccord and I brought this project to them they didnt realize how big a market actually existed.  I think they are trying to move more into retail sales of complete firearms and parts instead of just being a manufacturer.  Hopefully they will keep a few in stock.  IIRC Tina said they would run a few extra just in case there are late comers.  This is a big step for them.  Maybe they will actually make it to their website.

I have no affiliation with BCP.  In fact I am still looking for my "advisor" discount!  
5/16/2019 2:13:43 PM EDT
[#18]
I missed sending a check by just a few days on the very first go around.  I regretted it for a while, now I just can not talk myself into it.  I go back and forth, arguing with myself haha.  If it was just there when I was ready and could place an order on the website or maybe better that it is not. I know I just need to stop being poor.

Thanks for getting these started and running if only limited runs!!  Just showing BCP that the customer base is there.
5/16/2019 5:09:49 PM EDT
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I missed sending a check by just a few days on the very first go around.  I regretted it for a while, now I just can not talk myself into it.  I go back and forth, arguing with myself haha.  If it was just there when I was ready and could place an order on the website or maybe better that it is not. I know I just need to stop being poor.

Thanks for getting these started and running if only limited runs!!  Just showing BCP that the customer base is there.
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Just do it man. You need it.

Send an e-mail to Tina Balsamo at Black Creek:

[email protected]
5/16/2019 6:16:30 PM EDT
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Just do it man. You need it.

Send an e-mail to Tina Balsamo at Black Creek:

[email protected]
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Come on. They are awfully nice lowers. You know you want one....or two...
5/26/2019 5:14:15 AM EDT
[#21]
I got the first two A2 lowers in the first run and immediately replaced the PSA lower on my 20" and the second sat for almost a year before I finally settled on an 11.5" barrel for my 733 clone.  Second run I bought an A4.  Its built out and under a 16" upper while I think about what I want to morph it into.  I have a 20" S-DMR upper that would be a good home for it.  I will hafta swap a few parts around but it isnt a big deal.  I guess I better get to work!

Anyone heard any news on shipping out this run?
6/2/2019 7:19:41 PM EDT
[#22]
Is it possible to order one of these still?
6/2/2019 8:39:05 PM EDT
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Send an e-mail to Tina Balsamo at Black Creek:

[email protected]
6/7/2019 3:27:22 PM EDT
[#24]
Update by e-mail today

You are receiving this email because you have purchased 1 or more of our A2 or A4 lowers.  They have been sent out to be anodized.  We will begin shipping within the next 3 weeks.  You will receive an email individually when your order ships with tracking information.  If you have not submitted a FFL copy to ship to, please send one as soon as possible.

Thank you.

Tina Balsamo
6/12/2019 4:38:19 PM EDT
[#25]
Your order is packed and ready to ship tomorrow.  Your tracking information is included on your invoice.
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I just need a stock and BCG to finish the A4, so I should be getting pretty close to finishing this thing.
6/15/2019 10:20:51 PM EDT
[#26]
I’d thought Black Creek Precision didn’t have a CAGE code ‘cause I’d come up with no results in multiple search formats. Found this last night:

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Unfortunately I can’t find anything to support it. Still potentially cool for use in a UID label.
6/17/2019 2:13:29 PM EDT
[#27]
Shipped! BCP was saying this was the biggest order yet!.. I wonder if they're going to stock these at some point
6/17/2019 7:33:31 PM EDT
[#28]
ANYONE WHO MISSED OUT, PLEASE SEE NEW THREAD!!
6/19/2019 7:34:04 PM EDT
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Can't find it. Link? Thanks.
6/20/2019 9:55:21 PM EDT
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Just picked up my M16A2 lower from my FFL this afternoon! Love the markings! I got mine in the white and plan on sending it out for gray anodizing, I’ll be using this lower for an early 80’s A2 Colt clone.
6/21/2019 5:46:52 AM EDT
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Sorry brother.  The post was removed because of shilling for a non member vendor.  Please review further back in this thread for the information you need.
6/21/2019 10:34:29 AM EDT
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Sorry brother.  The post was removed because of shilling for a non member vendor.  Please review further back in this thread for the information you need.
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Not a problem. Talked with "Tina" 2 days ago and she had me send an email with my personal data along with ffl to purchase 2 lowers in the coming weeks. Thanks again for the "heads up".
6/21/2019 4:23:15 PM EDT
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Sorry brother.  The post was removed because of shilling for a non member vendor.  Please review further back in this thread for the information you need.
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Shilling? You thinking someone was paid to move a handful of lowers instead of trying to keep a company supporting the purpose an entire subforum on the side of their primary business? That's too bad though - that thread was the first I've shared in well over a few years! Getting some Brownells and BCM fatigue here.

ETA forgot to post pics! A2 and SPR

6/23/2019 1:40:22 AM EDT
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Shilling? You thinking someone was paid to move a handful of lowers instead of trying to keep a company supporting the purpose an entire subforum on the side of their primary business? That's too bad though - that thread was the first I've shared in well over a few years! Getting some Brownells and BCM fatigue here.

ETA forgot to post pics! A2 and SPR

https://i.imgur.com/gKtwoUM.jpg
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Yessir.  I was surprised and disappointed at the decision.  When James and I developed this idea and worked it to fruition with BCP, it was completely hobby oriented and still is.  With so few options out there for a produced lower with as correct markings as possible, I have to admit it was completely personal on my part, lol.  I really wanted to have SAFE, SEMI, BURST on the safety positions.  I just wasnt satisfied with SAFE and FIRE for my A2 clone.  In order to have any chance I was told to find a few others that would like to have one as well.  We let folks know on a couple of forums the possibility was in the works and the response was very positive.  The initial run was about 40 lowers and while the planning and development took about 6 months, from "Lets do it" to "in hand" was less than two.  There have now been 2 more runs to satisfy the needs of hobbyist clone builders.  All I tried to do was let anyone who missed out there were a few more available.

As I have mentioned, I have no affiliation with Black Creek Precision.  Hell, I dont even get a discount on anything I buy from them!  I discovered them accidentally when I purchased a lower from another local company and was searching for their contact information.  After visiting the BCP website I read where they would do custom work so I presented the idea to management and the rest is history.

BTW, you have two sweet looking rifles, brother!!  I love my 20" A2 clone, bare bones, iron sights, 20rd box USGI mag.  A sweet unsupported standing shooting Minute of Bad Guy all day long.  I'm in the process of making my 733 clone more authentic with a true A2 carry handle upper replacing the A3 upper on the complete upper assembly I bought from PSA.  I bought M16 full auto safety levers and modified them (Thanks again James!) to switch to the BURST position for authenticity.  I wish they would do three rounds but I will have to be satisfied with one shot per one trigger pull, lol.

Thanks for your support!  All I ever wanted was to help out the clone community.
6/23/2019 10:57:30 AM EDT
[#35]
You're a good man. Always helpful. The site needs to chill on this kind of "help". But I reckon not as bad as that "3rd" site.
6/23/2019 3:10:59 PM EDT
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You're a good man. Always helpful. The site needs to chill on this kind of "help". But I reckon not as bad as that "3rd" site.
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Thanks, Logan.
6/23/2019 5:31:44 PM EDT
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Yessir.  I was surprised and disappointed at the decision.  When James and I developed this idea and worked it to fruition with BCP, it was completely hobby oriented and still is.  With so few options out there for a produced lower with as correct markings as possible, I have to admit it was completely personal on my part, lol.  I really wanted to have SAFE, SEMI, BURST on the safety positions.  I just wasnt satisfied with SAFE and FIRE for my A2 clone.  In order to have any chance I was told to find a few others that would like to have one as well.  We let folks know on a couple of forums the possibility was in the works and the response was very positive.  The initial run was about 40 lowers and while the planning and development took about 6 months, from "Lets do it" to "in hand" was less than two.  There have now been 2 more runs to satisfy the needs of hobbyist clone builders.  All I tried to do was let anyone who missed out there were a few more available.

As I have mentioned, I have no affiliation with Black Creek Precision.  Hell, I dont even get a discount on anything I buy from them!  I discovered them accidentally when I purchased a lower from another local company and was searching for their contact information.  After visiting the BCP website I read where they would do custom work so I presented the idea to management and the rest is history.

BTW, you have two sweet looking rifles, brother!!  I love my 20" A2 clone, bare bones, iron sights, 20rd box USGI mag.  A sweet unsupported standing shooting Minute of Bad Guy all day long.  I'm in the process of making my 733 clone more authentic with a true A2 carry handle upper replacing the A3 upper on the complete upper assembly I bought from PSA.  I bought M16 full auto safety levers and modified them (Thanks again James!) to switch to the BURST position for authenticity.  I wish they would do three rounds but I will have to be satisfied with one shot per one trigger pull, lol.

Thanks for your support!  All I ever wanted was to help out the clone community.
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Red, I never thought for a split second you were shilling for BCP. In fact, I'm grateful for all the leg work you did to bring us the opportunity to buy a very nice lower with authentic markings.

Shilling? Oh hell no.
6/27/2019 12:28:46 AM EDT
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Red, I never thought for a split second you were shilling for BCP. In fact, I'm grateful for all the leg work you did to bring us the opportunity to buy a very nice lower with authentic markings.

Shilling? Oh hell no.
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Never crossed my mind either.  It was like posting "I found this good deal with this retailer" and anyone looking for it might jump on the deal.  specially the clone community.  There are plenty of threads here that direct folks to the deal.  Ive taken advantage and was thankful for links provided, found retailers like JSE I'd never heard of.  Its what I like about the Forum.
7/15/2019 2:48:38 PM EDT
[#39]
oh man did I miss this run?
7/15/2019 9:02:03 PM EDT
[#40]
Got mine and built it over the weekend.
Lower parts kit is a Colt from SA.
Trigger is SSA-E.
The trigger guard is so tight, I can barely move it. Probably not a big deal since I won’t ever fold it.
The anodizing is worn through in a few spots.
I love the markings and the classic A2 look.
Put my splintered A upper with Colt A2 barrel assembly on it, with a Colt stock kit.
Brings back memories of carrying one just like it in Iraq. This one feels much tighter though.
7/15/2019 9:11:49 PM EDT
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Since this came back up. I went the A4 route. Diemaco upper with Colt govt barrel. A1 butt.



8/2/2019 4:14:09 AM EDT
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BCP is now stocking a few A2 and A4 lowers and will continue to do so because the response is good.  Presently they are sold out of A4s and are working on another run.  Anyone interested in buying one of these quality clone lowers can contact Tina direct at [email protected] for fastest response.

Tina also asked me to let folks know she would like to post some pics of BCP lower A2/A4 builds on Black Creek's Facebook page.  Anyone interested in showing off your work can send pics to Tina at the fore mentioned email and she may post yours up.  The pics of builds I have seen so far would blanket their FB page with top quality rifles.  Send some to her and check their page,
8/5/2019 5:00:26 PM EDT
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BCP also just posted this on their FB page an hour ago.

"Another batch of our M16A2/M16A4 clone will be in production soon! Available in approximately 8 weeks! We are taking pre-orders!!!!"

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