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6/1/2005 10:42:21 AM EDT
[#1]
I've shot 1500 rounds of PMC 55gr without any stoppages.  Decent accuracy for what I was using it for (25-50 yard SD practice).  I shot probably 500 rounds of it FA when I had my RR Frankfort without any problems.  I'd buy it again.
6/2/2005 1:20:09 AM EDT
[#2]
Policed my brass at the last shoot, ended up with about a dozen PMC cases.  ALL had flattened primers.  Just an observation, don't know who was shooting it or in what.
6/2/2005 1:55:41 AM EDT
[#3]
PMC is the most accurate ammo my rifles have ever used.

HOWEVER

There was a time when I was getting up to 4 and 8 rounds per box of 20 that would not fire.  They were complete duds.  I wound up sending 100 dud rounds back to them.

To their credit they sent me Good ammo to replace the duds.

And then their 9mm 115gr pistol ammo started to become duds.

I haven’t used PMC ammo in about five years.  They may have fixed the dud problem, but as far as I’m concerned they are not on the BUY list.

Except, maybe, for their .380 ammo.  I haven’t had any problems with PMC there.
6/2/2005 5:57:14 AM EDT
[#4]
The stuff Im looking at is in a red/white box of 20 marked 223A made in Korea (.18 per) . The powder had a slightly gold color to it as compared with  Q3131A but "appeared" to be similar in ball size . The Q had 25.5 grains the PMC about 24 grains . The PMC powder "seemed" to burn a little faster (very little) both bullets measured right on 55 grains FMJ BT. The PMC Has red sealer on the primer and tar sealent around the bullet . Im thinkin Im going to buy a case .
7/4/2005 6:08:59 PM EDT
[#5]
I shot about 90 rounds out of my RRA 16'' with no problems.  Accuracy seemed good and the flash it created was incredible.  It has the red primer sealent.  I got a case for $150.
7/5/2005 11:40:44 AM EDT
[#6]
55grs FMJ
Fired 60 rounds of it in SL8-5.
I know thats not much for a statistic, but anyway.
Groups OK, around 1.5-2MOA at 100m, smokes pretty much for my taste.
But went bang everytime no probs. Shoots a bit smoother -> softer load.
7/5/2005 12:10:32 PM EDT
[#7]
i have fired 10 cases of the stuff in the past with no issues
8/29/2005 12:18:50 PM EDT
[#8]
Bump to prevent archiving.
8/29/2005 1:12:35 PM EDT
[#9]
Great stuff.  Ive never had a problem in any rifle Ive used it from colt, bushy to custom. 14.5 to 20 inches.
8/29/2005 2:29:48 PM EDT
[#10]
I've blown through about 3k rounds of PMC 223A this past Spring. The first three cases went down easy; but I am seeing some occasional short stroking on lot #223A-0342.

The same rifles continue to run fine with other ammo and the issue only pops up rarely so I can't attribute it to the ammo with 100% accuracy; but have seen about 5-7 cases in 500rds with this last case.
10/25/2005 7:49:47 AM EDT
[#11]
Nice Ammo seems to group about 1.5 " in 6 shots in a SUM bbl
10/25/2005 8:10:42 AM EDT
[#12]

Can everyone please edit your posts to add lot numbers and country of manufacture?

PMC is just a reseller of ammo made in various places.

I have two cases of PMC bought in the last year. One case was made in South Africa, the other in Korea.
10/28/2005 7:15:41 PM EDT
[#13]
PMC -Korea - lot 223a-0304
Bushmaster XM15 20"
100 rounds this session.

This is a fairly new Bushmaster having less than 300 rounds through it. I had about a 10% occurrence of light loads which would send a round downrange, but would require me to manually cycle the bolt to cock the hammer.  (uh..shortstroke? dont know the technical term for this.) I have previously used mostly Federal or IMI with no problems. But this was on sale so I have another 700 to go before purging it from my ammo box. I contacted Eldorado Cartridge through their 800 number just to report the occurrence. I hope that was the right thing to do.

On further reflection, I should probably add a bore check to my IAD when this kind of failure occurs. I would hate to have a light load precipitate a catastrophic failure.

Are newer weapons more sensitive to this condition due to springs not having been ...uh... exercised enough?

Rich
10/29/2005 7:39:37 AM EDT
[#14]

Quoted:
Are newer weapons more sensitive to this condition due to springs not having been ...uh... exercised enough?



Newer weapons are usually more sensitive to light loads because there is more friction in the upper receiver (high points haven't worn down yet). One the friction spots "wear in" it won't be as much of an issue. Also older guns with several thousand rounds (particularly carbines, not so much rifles) will usually have some erosion at the gas port that will cause the action to take in more gas than a new gun.
1/7/2006 6:55:18 PM EDT
[#15]
New 20" Bushy, have run ~ 400 rounds of 55 grain PMC thru the rifle. NO malfs of any sort! I'll continue buying and shooting it as long as the local Sportsmans Warehouse provides the MegaPack (big yellow box) at less than $60/case!
2/14/2006 5:36:59 PM EDT
[#16]
Bump to ask: where is this stuff sold cheap? I've had good luck with PMC and with the "respectable" stuff being megabucks I'm looking to pick up a case or 2.
3/5/2006 2:08:50 PM EDT
[#17]
Bushy V- Match Carbine

Noticed some cycling problemwith the first case, but bought another because of the price.  Experiencing more cycling problems, whereas the bolt assembly cocking but not going far enough back to camber up the next round from the magazine.  

Noticable difference when shooting other brand 5.56 ammo.
3/5/2006 2:23:20 PM EDT
[#18]
I really like PMC.  I wish I could still find it around here locally, it used to be easy to pick up at gun shows, a case at a time.

It always worked well in all my Ar's, and M16, from 16 inch to 11.5 inch.

I esp like the flash.  

I'd love to get some again, if i could find it on sale.
3/21/2006 9:09:08 PM EDT
[#19]
Somewhere between 1500-2000 rds of both PMC camo box M193 and white/red box PMC target 55gr. FMJ through a Colt HBAR with no problems at all. Large muzzle flash from the same ammo fired through  an XM-177 with a 5.5" flash suppressor. I always had decent accuracy with no FTF or FTE. This was the Korean made ammo. I personally liked the ammo and the price was usually very good.
5/21/2006 11:57:01 AM EDT
[#20]
I haven't shot PMC .223 in years, but the older lots I did have from the late 80s and early 90s were
fine.

I love their .30-06 M-2 ball equivalent load for my Garands better than any commercial ammo available

I found their 132 gr .38 SPL FMJ to peform better than W-W White box which is seriously underpowered
and consistently shoots lower than 158 grain lead ammo from ANY .38 revolver I've tried. I prefer the
PMC .38s over W-W white box ANY day at ANY price

I've had good luck with PMC .45 ACP and I've shot small quantities of their 200 gr .44 SPL which I like better than Remington's.

The only PMC ammo I had a problem with was a batch of red and white box 115gr FMJ 9mm that was loaded too light. It failed to function in four 9mm pistols: two SIG P-228s, one Glock 17 and a Beretta 92. All pistols were 100% reliable with other ammo. Only one of those pistols was mine (a 228). Chalk it up to the occasional "bad batch" of ammo.

I do NOT like PMC .22 "Zappers" the only thing worse than those are Federal champions out of a MKII

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