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10/17/2007 2:19:34 PM EDT
[#1]
Who is ridiculing you?  In other threads I said about as much, that ACOGs aren't for everyone, some don't find BAC particularly intuitive and something they care to, or can, master.  I find it a perishable skill, if I don't practice it often enough, BAC becomes weird.

The idea behind BAC IS both eyes open, thus Trijicon is able to boast far greater peripheral vision than traditional scopes where one would normally close one eye.

I've never bashed anyone for not liking ACOGs or finding the whole BAC thing usable.  Take it easy, I didn't say anything negative about you.
10/17/2007 2:36:11 PM EDT
[#2]

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Who is ridiculing you?  In other threads I said about as much, that ACOGs aren't for everyone, some don't find BAC particularly intuitive and something they care to, or can, master.  I find it a perishable skill, if I don't practice it often enough, BAC becomes weird.

The idea behind BAC IS both eyes open, thus Trijicon is able to boast far greater peripheral vision than traditional scopes where one would normally close one eye.

I've never bashed anyone for not liking ACOGs or finding the whole BAC thing usable.  Take it easy, I didn't say anything negative about you.


No biggie....just wondering how one should take this:


tunnel vision? 4x32 ACOGs probably have the best FOV of all 4X scopes!


I stated my opinion and it was relative to the Aimpoint vs ACOG for close in work. You quoted me and narrowed the scope  (no pun) of the conversation to 4 x 32 scopes. Never said that the ACOG's FOV was worst in it's class did I?
10/17/2007 2:42:22 PM EDT
[#3]
If anything, my M2 sure reminds me of looking through a tunnel
10/17/2007 4:37:39 PM EDT
[#4]
10/18/2007 7:23:06 AM EDT
[#5]


I wasn't calling you a liar, just thought you were exagerating some. Do you know how many times I have read someone on this board post that "they saw or know" someone who hated their ACOG because the eye relief was so short the scope kept "biting" them or hitting them in the Eye? Like Bradd said; When wearing Goggles or shooting glass it will occasionally happen, but thats different. I personally have never seen it happen or even heard anyone complain about that except on this board.

I don't post much, especially not in here, so I haven't come across the complaint before.  Perhaps '2000' times was an exaggeration.  I wasn't counting, and he probably wasn't either.  We fired roughly 2400 rounds in three days, and perhaps the scope didn't whack the Marine 80% of the time.  It did hit him enough that after every string of fire during which his forehead was unprotected (he often wore a head covering), there would be fresh blood.  It gave a very capable shooter a pretty bad flinch.


I agree with you, It is not a one size fits all optic, but it is vastly more usable and liked by troops than what it appears by reading this thread.
As with anything some will like some will ot, just like Glocks.
Some of us love and hate Glocks at the same time.


Now, No matter what optic you buy just make sure you get a LaRue Mount, Right Mark?

I think everyone should agree on that, right?
10/18/2007 3:37:42 PM EDT
[#6]
Putting an ACOG on an M4 is not at all a bad idea. It CAN be a bad idea if you rarely look at a targets past 50 yards. But if what you do with your M4 can benefit from a low power optic like an ACOG, you wont want an Aimpoint.

Im a nobody who doesnt look at any targets that arent paper or metal. But I have an open enough mind listen to and comprehend the ACOG's virtues. Blanket statements like always and never are seldom true.

Using the right tool for the right job always makes things easier. Putting any one optic any everyones gun is probably always a bad idea for someone. When all you have is a hammer, all your problems seem to look like nails.
10/18/2007 6:33:16 PM EDT
[#7]
My TA31 and TA31F have been relegated to my +100 yard range guns.  I could never get use to them for close range as the view is overwhelming.  There are no plans to sell off either of them except if I desperately need the cash to but magnifiers for my Aimpoints.
10/18/2007 11:36:47 PM EDT
[#8]

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i think they also just bought a town of aimpoint magnifiers.

I talked to my buddy in the marines and he said he liked the acog the best out of them all.

price usually does mean the best...not always, but usually
10/18/2007 11:54:26 PM EDT
[#9]

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If anything, my M2 sure reminds me of looking through a tunnel


Guess you forgot to open the other eye
10/19/2007 5:35:50 AM EDT
[#10]

Quoted:

Quoted:
If anything, my M2 sure reminds me of looking through a tunnel


Guess you forgot to open the other eye


Haha I do use both eyes even with 10x optics, since I don't use my Aimpoint much, I haven't got used to ignoring its tube yet

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