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How in the world did that guy get the recoil out of that Auto 7.62x39? I shot a couple mags of full auto out of an AK and it was a climbing beast. While it shoots the same round, you can't expect the same recoil and accuracy. The AR's DI system will dampen the recoil as well as the spring, buffer, and muzzle device. The recoil is almost more inline with the barrel than the AK. |
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Aside from just wanting an ar in 7.62 for the cheaper ammo prices and more versatility to mount things instead of my ak, that is the other reason I decided to buy a 7.62x39 upper. Hopefully I have found a new dedicated deer/hog hunting round to use besides my ar10 and 50 Beowulf 
here are some quick pics and vids I made earlier this week when I got my new toy out of jail on my 7.62x39 upper. it's an alpha shooting sports 16" upper <a href="http://s27.photobucket.com/user/dakang3/media/20141111_154528_zps120f5338.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c166/dakang3/20141111_154528_zps120f5338.jpg</a> <a href="http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c166/dakang3/20141111_152009_zps2189f9b0.mp4" target="_blank">http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c166/dakang3/th_20141111_152009_zps2189f9b0.mp4</a> <a href="http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c166/dakang3/20141111_154317_zps9292ce48.mp4" target="_blank">http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c166/dakang3/th_20141111_154317_zps9292ce48.mp4</a> Quoted:
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Seriously thinking of doing a 7.62x39 for my next build. If SBR is not practical would you use a 16 in or go pistol instead. Thinking of having a secondary deer slayer that is more mobile than my 14lb .308. Maybe a 1-6 optic. Aside from just wanting an ar in 7.62 for the cheaper ammo prices and more versatility to mount things instead of my ak, that is the other reason I decided to buy a 7.62x39 upper. Hopefully I have found a new dedicated deer/hog hunting round to use besides my ar10 and 50 Beowulf
here are some quick pics and vids I made earlier this week when I got my new toy out of jail on my 7.62x39 upper. it's an alpha shooting sports 16" upper <a href="http://s27.photobucket.com/user/dakang3/media/20141111_154528_zps120f5338.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c166/dakang3/20141111_154528_zps120f5338.jpg</a> <a href="http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c166/dakang3/20141111_152009_zps2189f9b0.mp4" target="_blank">http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c166/dakang3/th_20141111_152009_zps2189f9b0.mp4</a> <a href="http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c166/dakang3/20141111_154317_zps9292ce48.mp4" target="_blank">http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c166/dakang3/th_20141111_154317_zps9292ce48.mp4</a> Yeah, I think the 7.62x39 is under appreciated as far as a medium game round. It is an excellent choice for deer within 200 yards, better than the 30-30 in my book, plus cheap ammo and mild recoil allows for more practice for those weekend warriors who would otherwise just shoot a couple rounds prior to the season. |
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Green Mountain barrel and tactical ambush nib bcg <a href="http://s1141.photobucket.com/user/Kurox89/media/60E30361-39A5-48FD-9757-BD30B89D537F.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n593/Kurox89/60E30361-39A5-48FD-9757-BD30B89D537F.jpg</a> That's one of the best executed 7.62 builds I've seen in a while. Good work! |
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I've been looking at barrels for an x39 build. Any of you guys seen the Cobra Tactical barrel? They claim..
"Our H-Bar Barrels are capable of 1/2" MOA 5 shot group at 100 Yards. This means all 5 shots will be touching." http://www.cobratacsystems.com/products/7-62x39-ar-15-16-h-bar-1-10-black-barrel-750-carbine-gas-system Also been looking at YHM and Ares Armor barrels. |
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I've been looking at barrels for an x39 build. Any of you guys seen the Cobra Tactical barrel? They claim.. "Our H-Bar Barrels are capable of 1/2" MOA 5 shot group at 100 Yards. This means all 5 shots will be touching." http://www.cobratacsystems.com/products/7-62x39-ar-15-16-h-bar-1-10-black-barrel-750-carbine-gas-system Also been looking at YHM and Ares Armor barrels. Are they a .311" bore? |
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*sigh* I wished my MGI AK magwell worked with pmags. |
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I've been looking at barrels for an x39 build. Any of you guys seen the Cobra Tactical barrel? They claim.. "Our H-Bar Barrels are capable of 1/2" MOA 5 shot group at 100 Yards. This means all 5 shots will be touching." http://www.cobratacsystems.com/products/7-62x39-ar-15-16-h-bar-1-10-black-barrel-750-carbine-gas-system Also been looking at YHM and Ares Armor barrels. Are they a .311" bore? I'm not 100% sure. I've been meaning to email them about it. Pretty sure I'm going to pick one up anyways. |
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Latest configuration. Put together using mostly MGI parts. <a href="http://s1291.photobucket.com/user/capitalm3/media/IMAG0057_zpsx7wqke8a_edit_1424374625770_zpseco1pmiy.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b555/capitalm3/IMAG0057_zpsx7wqke8a_edit_1424374625770_zpseco1pmiy.jpg</a> Capital...please more details of your MGI build. Looks nice..have you been able to use it yet? |
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Latest configuration. Put together using mostly MGI parts. <a href="http://s1291.photobucket.com/user/capitalm3/media/IMAG0057_zpsx7wqke8a_edit_1424374625770_zpseco1pmiy.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b555/capitalm3/IMAG0057_zpsx7wqke8a_edit_1424374625770_zpseco1pmiy.jpg</a> Capital...please more details of your MGI build. Looks nice..have you been able to use it yet? This, how did you get the upper machined out to fit? |
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Latest configuration. Put together using mostly MGI parts. <a href="http://s1291.photobucket.com/user/capitalm3/media/IMAG0057_zpsx7wqke8a_edit_1424374625770_zpseco1pmiy.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b555/capitalm3/IMAG0057_zpsx7wqke8a_edit_1424374625770_zpseco1pmiy.jpg</a> Capital...please more details of your MGI build. Looks nice..have you been able to use it yet? This, how did you get the upper machined out to fit? 
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The stamp is a killer, but I went with the Sig Brace for a pistol and I'm planning to test out the Thordsen setup soon. SBR may make more sense as far as setup, but the benefits of a pistol are hard to beat. No need to get permission to cross state lines with it, it can be in your car loaded in the state of PA (unlike long guns), and it can come in about $100 cheaper and quicker than the NFA stamp. However, the SBR is a better setup. Stupid NFA shit. If the NFA had a face, I'd poop on it (just like in Oz) Quoted:
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Getting me interested in a 7.62x39 now! Great pictures guys! It's depressing to think I could have bought a SLR 107 for what I'm going to have in this upper... Never mind eventually having a dedicated lower and stamp. Oh well, tomorrow we can make more money Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile The stamp is a killer, but I went with the Sig Brace for a pistol and I'm planning to test out the Thordsen setup soon. SBR may make more sense as far as setup, but the benefits of a pistol are hard to beat. No need to get permission to cross state lines with it, it can be in your car loaded in the state of PA (unlike long guns), and it can come in about $100 cheaper and quicker than the NFA stamp. However, the SBR is a better setup. Stupid NFA shit. If the NFA had a face, I'd poop on it (just like in Oz) Build a pistol and a SBR lower and you have the best of both worlds. This thread is giving me ideas to build a 7.62x39 upper |
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<a href="https://www.mgi-military.com/store/index.php?product_id=80&type=&category=20" target="_blank">https://www.mgi-military.com/image_upload/Stripped%20Lower%20Receiver.jpg</a> <a href="https://www.mgi-military.com/store/index.php?product_id=28&type=&category=9" target="_blank">https://www.mgi-military.com/image_upload/MW%20AK-472.jpg</a> with these 2 parts, I don't believe any machining to the upper is necessary Quoted:
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Latest configuration. Put together using mostly MGI parts. <a href="http://s1291.photobucket.com/user/capitalm3/media/IMAG0057_zpsx7wqke8a_edit_1424374625770_zpseco1pmiy.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b555/capitalm3/IMAG0057_zpsx7wqke8a_edit_1424374625770_zpseco1pmiy.jpg</a> Capital...please more details of your MGI build. Looks nice..have you been able to use it yet? This, how did you get the upper machined out to fit? <a href="https://www.mgi-military.com/store/index.php?product_id=80&type=&category=20" target="_blank">https://www.mgi-military.com/image_upload/Stripped%20Lower%20Receiver.jpg</a> <a href="https://www.mgi-military.com/store/index.php?product_id=28&type=&category=9" target="_blank">https://www.mgi-military.com/image_upload/MW%20AK-472.jpg</a> with these 2 parts, I don't believe any machining to the upper is necessary I think you need a special bolt carrier too, correct? I just looked at MGI's website and they have the 7.62 hydra on sale for $1099. Very Tempting. |
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<a href="https://www.mgi-military.com/store/index.php?product_id=80&type=&category=20" target="_blank">https://www.mgi-military.com/image_upload/Stripped%20Lower%20Receiver.jpg</a> <a href="https://www.mgi-military.com/store/index.php?product_id=28&type=&category=9" target="_blank">https://www.mgi-military.com/image_upload/MW%20AK-472.jpg</a> with these 2 parts, I don't believe any machining to the upper is necessary Quoted:
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Latest configuration. Put together using mostly MGI parts. <a href="http://s1291.photobucket.com/user/capitalm3/media/IMAG0057_zpsx7wqke8a_edit_1424374625770_zpseco1pmiy.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b555/capitalm3/IMAG0057_zpsx7wqke8a_edit_1424374625770_zpseco1pmiy.jpg</a> Capital...please more details of your MGI build. Looks nice..have you been able to use it yet? This, how did you get the upper machined out to fit? <a href="https://www.mgi-military.com/store/index.php?product_id=80&type=&category=20" target="_blank">https://www.mgi-military.com/image_upload/Stripped%20Lower%20Receiver.jpg</a> <a href="https://www.mgi-military.com/store/index.php?product_id=28&type=&category=9" target="_blank">https://www.mgi-military.com/image_upload/MW%20AK-472.jpg</a> with these 2 parts, I don't believe any machining to the upper is necessary You don't need to machine it to mate to the lower, you have to machine the upper to fit the AK mags as they are wider. |
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I've been looking at barrels for an x39 build. Any of you guys seen the Cobra Tactical barrel? They claim.. "Our H-Bar Barrels are capable of 1/2" MOA 5 shot group at 100 Yards. This means all 5 shots will be touching." http://www.cobratacsystems.com/products/7-62x39-ar-15-16-h-bar-1-10-black-barrel-750-carbine-gas-system Also been looking at YHM and Ares Armor barrels. i believe this is the same Advanced Research barrel sold by Delta Team Tactical. http://www.deltateamtactical.com/762X39-AR15-Melonite-Hbar-Barrel_p_4056.html I have two of these barrels. they are excellent shooters. the best shooting AR 7.62 x39 barrels I have owned. ( i have/had 7 different ones) 1/2 moa at 100 yds probably won't come with any Russian type surplus ammo, but are still more accurate than all the other barrels i have had. I have seen Golden Tiger ammo group 3 or 4 shots at .75 to 1 inch or so but then you will get a couple of flyers. Hornady SST is very consistent at around 1.5 inch groups. Never tried any Yugo or Lapua or any other American ammo in them so I don't know what the results would be. at $129 this barrel is a bargain. I have been using one of the ARD's in 2 Gun competitions with excellent results. easily hit a 12" x 18" steel target from 135 yards kneeling and prone. not necessarily a great accuracy test, but then again you have never see me shoot, so i need all the help i can get! I had a KAK industries barrel that shot worse than any other one i own. this is a good company but their $265 barrel wasn't even close to the accuracy of the ARD's, RedX Arms, or Mas Defense barrels I have. i was surprised by the KAK barrel's performance because it is supposed to be a Green Mountain Barrels blank which have a good reputation for accuracy. go figure |
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all 3 of the tactical uppers have Effin-A comps, and SLR Rifleworks adjustable gas blocks. all the tactical uppers use the same lower: Aero Precision lower Geissle Super Dynamic 3 gun Trigger (awesome) either a Liberty Gun works bolt with a Tactical Ambush NIBX carrier or a Tactical Ambush NIBX super bolt and carrier Viltor IMOD stock lightweight buffer (an empty carbine buffer) with standard strength Wolff buffer spring Magpul MIAD grip Magpul B.A.D. lever Ares Armor ambi safety with a 55 deg throw (nice) the bench rest ARD upper is with a Sig Sauer M400 upper and lower receiver, standard weight buffer and spring, Magpul UBR stock, a Magpul MOE grip, and a Geissle SSA-E trigger |
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You don't need to machine it to mate to the lower, you have to machine the upper to fit the AK mags as they are wider. Quoted:
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Latest configuration. Put together using mostly MGI parts. <a href="http://s1291.photobucket.com/user/capitalm3/media/IMAG0057_zpsx7wqke8a_edit_1424374625770_zpseco1pmiy.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b555/capitalm3/IMAG0057_zpsx7wqke8a_edit_1424374625770_zpseco1pmiy.jpg</a> Capital...please more details of your MGI build. Looks nice..have you been able to use it yet? This, how did you get the upper machined out to fit? <a href="https://www.mgi-military.com/store/index.php?product_id=80&type=&category=20" target="_blank">https://www.mgi-military.com/image_upload/Stripped%20Lower%20Receiver.jpg</a> <a href="https://www.mgi-military.com/store/index.php?product_id=28&type=&category=9" target="_blank">https://www.mgi-military.com/image_upload/MW%20AK-472.jpg</a> with these 2 parts, I don't believe any machining to the upper is necessary You don't need to machine it to mate to the lower, you have to machine the upper to fit the AK mags as they are wider. So really you need the lower,mag well, upper and bolt carrier for it to work. Not a simple conversion. |
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Latest configuration. Put together using mostly MGI parts. <a href="http://s1291.photobucket.com/user/capitalm3/media/IMAG0057_zpsx7wqke8a_edit_1424374625770_zpseco1pmiy.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b555/capitalm3/IMAG0057_zpsx7wqke8a_edit_1424374625770_zpseco1pmiy.jpg</a> Capital...please more details of your MGI build. Looks nice..have you been able to use it yet? This, how did you get the upper machined out to fit? Better question is where did you find a lower in stock? |
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here are some pics starting with the RedX, the ARD tactical, the Mas Defense and the other ARD I use off the benchhttp://<a href= http://i1295.photobucket.com/albums/b629/swadiver1/DSC06258_zps1hnjpkvv.jpg</a>" /> http://<a href=http://i1295.photobucket.com/albums/b629/swadiver1/DSC06261_zpsikiq5ah6.jpg</a>" /> http://<a href=http://i1295.photobucket.com/albums/b629/swadiver1/DSC06263_zpsccqt6fae.jpg</a>" /> http://<a href=http://i1295.photobucket.com/albums/b629/swadiver1/DSC06265_zpshwocyfui.jpg</a>" /> all 3 of the tactical uppers have Effin-A comps, and SLR Rifleworks adjustable gas blocks. all the tactical uppers use the same lower: Aero Precision lower Geissle Super Dynamic 3 gun Trigger (awesome) either a Liberty Gun works bolt with a Tactical Ambush NIBX carrier or a Tactical Ambush NIBX super bolt and carrier Viltor IMOD stock lightweight buffer (an empty carbine buffer) with standard strength Wolff buffer spring Magpul MIAD grip Magpul B.A.D. lever Ares Armor ambi safety with a 55 deg throw (nice) the bench rest ARD upper is with a Sig Sauer M400 upper and lower receiver, standard weight buffer and spring, Magpul UBR stock, a Magpul MOE grip, and a Geissle SSA-E trigger just wanted to add some pics of the latest results with my "bench rest" 7.62 x39 (an oxymoron?) ARD barreled upper. all 100 yds, front and rear bags, ammo as noted, windy day. pretty happy with these $129 ARD barrels. both shoot great.  </a>" />
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Still waiting on the bolt so haven't shot it yet. I'm also going to build a F1 5" can for it.
Edit: Bolt arrived yesterday and I had chance to do a quick range session today. Shot 100 rds of Hanson that I've had laying around since the early 90's. It's great ammo....full milspec and NC. This thing ran like a scalded ape. Not a single hiccup....bolt lock everytime, mags were great, etc.. also has a beautiful straightline recoil and soft to shoot. Real nice and the mini krink served well. I shot with just Pletor electronics instead of double ears and it was just fine. That Kirink seemed to throw everything out front of the gun, as designed, even though it's the mini version. Real happy with this. 
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My friends have dubbed it the ARK. Just figured I'd show it off. This is an old rifle that has been through a lot of changes, lots of reused parts... put about 20 rounds through it a month ago, but it would not fully cycle the action. I bent the old gas tube during install so I went ahead and ordered a new one and drilled out the barrel gas port with a 3/32" bit (.09375"). I left an old cleaning rod inside while doing it as to not damage the barrel and I also lightly filed the hole and inspected it as best I could to make sure there weren't any metal shavings left. I also slightly grinded and filed the mags where the case would slightly catch the front lip of the mag. UPPER: Std A4 receiver w Radical Nitride 7.62x39 BCG Faxon 16" mid-length gov't profile barrel that I picked up on the EE. Seems it had the original smaller gas port size. Radical flash hider. Some pin-on gas block w/ new CMMG tube MI lightweight M-LOK handguard LOWER: Superior arms lower w/ whatever LPK CAA buttstock and I believe an h or h2 buffer (have spare carbine buffer to try as well) ASC mags (I would assume latest gen. purchased last month. Slapped a holosun 403g on it for now. We shall see how it shoots! I have some Tula as well as some Hornady ammo to try out! I'll probably put a scope on it just to see how it groups. |
| So, the 7.62x39 AR is running fantastic. Put about 100 rounds of tula through it today without a single hicup. Opening up the gas port to 3/32 definitely did the trick. On another note both mags fed perfectly (one being a modded asc 30 rounder, and the other being a stock asc 10 rounder). |
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So, the 7.62x39 AR is running fantastic. Put about 100 rounds of tula through it today without a single hicup. Opening up the gas port to 3/32 definitely did the trick. On another note both mags fed perfectly (one being a modded asc 30 rounder, and the other being a stock asc 10 rounder). Excellent to hear. Thanks for sharing photos! |
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That is beautiful with that silencer on there!! |
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That is beautiful with that silencer on there!! Thanks. It doesn't do too bad of a job making it, what I call, hearing safe. |
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