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5/28/2025 10:03:28 AM EDT
I keep refreshing and hoping they will be in stock. I could just buy an AKV and then the kit. It might be a better option so I could keep the mag well and be able to use stick mags too.

Thoughts?
5/28/2025 3:54:16 PM EDT
[#1]
I haven't seen any reviews of them yet. Are the mags actually reliable?

Also I wish they had actual 4.5mm trunnions like the Krinks do
5/28/2025 4:59:38 PM EDT
[#2]
agreed. That's the 1st thing I'd do is the form 1 then send out ti for the side folder.
6/1/2025 5:05:55 PM EDT
[#3]
Got a notification via email that the Midwest handgaurd version was in stock at 3:02 this afternoon. Was sold out when I went to look at 3:03
6/1/2025 5:16:35 PM EDT
[#4]
I'm about to take a long summer vacation, hoping by the time I get home they'll be easier to find
6/18/2025 12:15:47 PM EDT
[Last Edit: NamLeets][Edited] [#5]

As of right now, they are in stock with the Alg trigger
7/1/2025 8:52:29 AM EDT
[#6]
Got one ordered, should be delivered tomorrow. I unfortunately am traveling right now, so rang report will have to wait.
7/1/2025 11:13:48 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By nictra:
Got one ordered, should be delivered tomorrow. I unfortunately am traveling right now, so rang report will have to wait.
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Nice! Look forward to your thoughts on it, once your able to get it in hand.
7/1/2025 11:18:31 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By NamLeets:


As of right now, they are in stock with the Alg trigger
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If I'm reading this correctly, it will also accept the stick magazines in addition to the large rotary magazine?
7/1/2025 11:31:22 AM EDT
[#9]
It would require you to buy the stick mag insert to use stick mags. If you want to use both, it may be best to buy the AKV and then buy the stizon kit. I have not seen the magwell conversion for sale from PSA on their site fir the stick mags.

This is all observational just from looking at pics, I have no 1st hand knowledge
7/1/2025 11:46:15 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By nictra:
It would require you to buy the stick mag insert to use stick mags. If you want to use both, it may be best to buy the AKV and then buy the stizon kit. I have not seen the magwell conversion for sale from PSA on their site fir the stick mags.

This is all observational just from looking at pics, I have no 1st hand knowledge
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Gotcha.

I find it a neat piece of gear, but if the option exists to use both stick mags and the rotary, why not get both?

Looking forward to your range assessment.
7/1/2025 12:23:37 PM EDT
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Gotcha.

I find it a neat piece of gear, but if the option exists to use both stick mags and the rotary, why not get both?

Looking forward to your range assessment.
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concur, however I decided I didn't want to fit the kit to the rifle. In hindsight, that may have been the wrong move.

I'll be keeping my eyes open on PSA's site and hope they offer the magwell conversion for sale. All else fails, I'll give them a call and see if they will sell me a complete one. Having both would be optimal.
8/8/2025 2:50:58 PM EDT
[#12]
Finally picked it up this week (got back from extended vacation). I am going shooting tomorrow. Will post some pics and some thoughts afterwards.

I will say the mag when loaded rattles a lot, so not for stealthy missions.
8/8/2025 3:09:30 PM EDT
[#13]
Wait for the gen2
8/9/2025 4:01:21 PM EDT
[#14]
Aside from how the HGs are attached, here's the latest iteration. Zen is going to be using different media in the future iterations (I'll let him give the specifics)

Ran good, got the red dot on. Forgot my subs, so only ran with supers. No complaints except the mag is bit a PITA to insert.








8/9/2025 5:31:54 PM EDT
[#15]
Is the mag a pain to load, or not too bad?
8/9/2025 5:42:12 PM EDT
[#16]
the mag isn't too bad to load, but I have to slam it into the receiver with some authority to get it to actually seat proper.

Mag loading is not anywhere near as fast as doing stick mags
8/11/2025 6:51:45 PM EDT
[#17]
I don't know anything about these but I just saw a video and the guy was able to use regular mags as well. Looked like an adapter or something but it was interesting and would make this conversion a lot better.
8/11/2025 9:06:07 PM EDT
[#18]
yeah, I just hit up Josiah via PM to see if I could buy a Scorpion mag adapter that comes on the standard AK-V. I've looked and did not see them for sale on PSA's website, so fingers crossed.

I would like to have at least 4 of helical mags, but stuff and things sells them for the low low price of $170 each, PSA hasn't had them in stock (at least that I've ever seen) to know what they're going to charge for them.
8/12/2025 11:09:13 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By nictra:
yeah, I just hit up Josiah via PM to see if I could buy a Scorpion mag adapter that comes on the standard AK-V. I've looked and did not see them for sale on PSA's website, so fingers crossed.

I would like to have at least 4 of helical mags, but stuff and things sells them for the low low price of $170 each, PSA hasn't had them in stock (at least that I've ever seen) to know what they're going to charge for them.
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@PalmettoStateArmory on the mag adapter.

THX!

8/13/2025 9:55:03 AM EDT
[#20]
We don't carry the adapter at the moment, but here is a link to someone who does.

https://stincusa.com/product/stick-mag-adapter

Thanks,

Josiah
Palmetto State Armory
3760 Fernandina Rd
Columbia, SC 29210
Web Sales: 1-803-724-6950
8/13/2025 10:12:40 AM EDT
[#21]
Thanks for the reply Josiah!


I don't think I was clear enough in my description of what I was wanting. I am wanting to get the actual mag adapter you guys install in your AK-Vs that take the stick mags.

Thanks!
8/19/2025 9:12:12 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By PalmettoStateArmory:
We don't carry the adapter at the moment, but here is a link to someone who does.

https://stincusa.com/product/stick-mag-adapter

Thanks,

Josiah
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bought 2 of these and 1 already broke when I tried to put the mag in. These things are a no go IMO.

@PalmettoStateArmory


I tried calling to see if I could get a lead on an standard AK-V magwell for the stick mags, but they told me to check with the manufacturer of the product. I asked who that was but have not heard a response yet. I thought you guys were making these.

Anyway, my opinion, if you're thinking about doing this kit, start with a standard AK-V and then add the kit vs buying the Stizon unless you just want something with an expensive mag.

I'm 99% happy I bought it, shoots super nice, is fun, and looks awesome.
8/20/2025 10:42:11 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By nictra:
bought 2 of these and 1 already broke when I tried to put the mag in. These things are a no go IMO.

@PalmettoStateArmory


I tried calling to see if I could get a lead on an standard AK-V magwell for the stick mags, but they told me to check with the manufacturer of the product. I asked who that was but have not heard a response yet. I thought you guys were making these.

Anyway, my opinion, if you're thinking about doing this kit, start with a standard AK-V and then add the kit vs buying the Stizon unless you just want something with an expensive mag.

I'm 99% happy I bought it, shoots super nice, is fun, and looks awesome.
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Please send me a PM. I have someone looking into how to do this.

Thanks,

Josiah
Palmetto State Armory
3760 Fernandina Rd
Columbia, SC 29210
Web Sales: 1-803-724-6950
9/8/2025 11:09:16 AM EDT
[#24]
PSA customer service shines again. They sent me a magwell adapter for their standard AKV so I can use stick mags too. I like the Stizon kit, but think there are some ways to make it a tad better. Either way, I may end just getting a standard AKV so I can have both, such is the arfcom tradition.

Did some more shooting with it this past weekend, and the weekend before. I compared it to a KR9 for groupings. We shot at 50 yards and used cheap plinking ammo. If wanted, I can get the name of the ammo used. Either way, the KR9 didn't seem to shoot significantly any better or worse than the AKV, for what it's worth.

I'll get some pics up again with the stick mags. Been fitting an Ultimak rail to it. The rail requires some fitting around the rear site block and some drilling out of the inside since the AKV bolt carrier has more gith than a standard AK gas piston.

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