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10/18/2017 2:07:02 PM EDT
[Last Edit: tenewel][Edited]
Received a report of damage to an AK parts kit.  Original listing stated...

Other than barell kit is at least 85-90% perfect.  (barrel was cut)

Buyer stated in his complaint...

After close inspection you can see there was a headspace issue and gun blew up.
There's clear damage to bolt and front trunnion.

Here are the photos that were sent to me.  Can anyone help identify if the kit was described incorrectly?  Not looking for a dogpile on either member, just some clarification for my lack of knowledge.

Additional photos in replies.  Two of the eight photos would not load due to size (one receiver/trunion photo and one bolt)



I suspect whatever it was, he died well before he came home, just that no one knew it. - Venillian
10/18/2017 2:09:10 PM EDT
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I suspect whatever it was, he died well before he came home, just that no one knew it. - Venillian
10/18/2017 2:09:58 PM EDT
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I suspect whatever it was, he died well before he came home, just that no one knew it. - Venillian
10/18/2017 2:18:24 PM EDT
[#3]
That trunnion looks pretty beat up.
10/18/2017 3:44:20 PM EDT
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That trunnion is trashed. The bolt looks like someone ground on it, possibly to get it to properly turn in the trunnion instead of removing the bullet guide and modifying that part instead.
"Nothing says 'come to my tree stand for a good cornholing' more than a Browning Buckmark sticker on your oversized truck." - dport

"Tactical" is a mindset, not an equipment list.
10/18/2017 7:33:29 PM EDT
[#5]
It is the responsibility of whoever made a gun out of the kit to make sure it will be a safe gun before delivering it to the consumer. You sold parts. They had to get a receiver and barrel and manufacture a gun. Anyone doing so will be gauging it, testing and observing function before delivering it if they have any sense. I don't see how you could possibly have any responsibility in their blowing up the rifle.
10/18/2017 8:54:01 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By 1saxman:
It is the responsibility of whoever made a gun out of the kit to make sure it will be a safe gun before delivering it to the consumer. You sold parts. They had to get a receiver and barrel and manufacture a gun. Anyone doing so will be gauging it, testing and observing function before delivering it if they have any sense. I don't see how you could possibly have any responsibility in their blowing up the rifle.
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I believe that the buyer bought it as a kit and noticed the damage prior to actually building anything.
"Nothing says 'come to my tree stand for a good cornholing' more than a Browning Buckmark sticker on your oversized truck." - dport

"Tactical" is a mindset, not an equipment list.
10/18/2017 10:45:58 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By AEnemaBay:
I believe that the buyer bought it as a kit and noticed the damage prior to actually building anything.
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This.  And since I have zero knowledge base for building an AK platform that's why I'm asking.  I've only owned factory manufacture AKs.  I'm not the buyer nor seller.  I'm the EE trying to gain knowledge before having to tell one party bad news.
I suspect whatever it was, he died well before he came home, just that no one knew it. - Venillian
10/18/2017 11:00:54 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By tenewel:


This.  And since I have zero knowledge base for building an AK platform that's why I'm asking.  I've only owned factory manufacture AKs.  I'm not the buyer nor seller.  I'm the EE trying to gain knowledge before having to tell one party bad news.
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If that damage was not advertised prior to the sale I'd say that the seller should take it back. If the seller is simply ignorant as to what to look for, they should chaulk it up as a learning experience as to what to look for in the future. As is, that front trunnion is not useable, and the bolt likely isn't either.
"Nothing says 'come to my tree stand for a good cornholing' more than a Browning Buckmark sticker on your oversized truck." - dport

"Tactical" is a mindset, not an equipment list.
10/19/2017 8:32:14 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By AEnemaBay:
If that damage was not advertised prior to the sale I'd say that the seller should take it back. If the seller is simply ignorant as to what to look for, they should chaulk it up as a learning experience as to what to look for in the future. As is, that front trunnion is not useable, and the bolt likely isn't either.
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The ad was very basic.  The condition line is about 1/3 of the whole statement.  

The seller claims to have about 30 builds under his belt over the last 10-12 years.
I suspect whatever it was, he died well before he came home, just that no one knew it. - Venillian
10/19/2017 12:04:47 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By tenewel:
The seller claims to have about 30 builds under his belt over the last 10-12 years.
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Then there's no excuse, IMHO. He should have noticed that type of damage unless he simply never looked at the kit after buying it originally.
"Nothing says 'come to my tree stand for a good cornholing' more than a Browning Buckmark sticker on your oversized truck." - dport

"Tactical" is a mindset, not an equipment list.
12/18/2017 2:37:33 PM EDT
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'I believe that the buyer bought it as a kit and noticed the damage prior to actually building anything.'

If that's the case, the buyer received junk.
1/1/2018 3:16:05 PM EDT
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Seller owes a refund unless he clearly documented that the parts came from a catastrophically damaged rifle. That's not a kit...it's damaged parts that are unsafe.
1/1/2018 3:30:22 PM EDT
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the majority of that kit is junk if it needs a new trunnion, bolt, and maybe new barrel... refund of money by seller to buyer (And return of junk parts on the buyers end) is probably the best way to handle this.

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