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Posted: 12/18/2017 8:48:56 PM EST
[Last Edit: 4/26/2020 1:25:02 PM EST by TX-Zen]
Post em if you have em. Your own suppressors and .mil welcome

Updated 2020:

AK105 with Sandman K + E-Brake, ZenitCo Perst 2 laser, Skeet-IR and Kashtan 2.8x



Sandman K with PEQ15 and Browe BTO optic


Sandman K with DBAL A4



Griffin M4SDK modified to Dead Air KeyMo mount by ECCO Machining





Sandman K, 762SDN-6, SOCOM762, Wolverine


SOCCOM 762




AK103 with Obzor and Rugged Micro 30


Sandman K



Griffin M4SD-K (bottom) and Mini 4 (top)


Dead Air PBS-1 Wolverine with 1P63 Obzor




Browe BTO-RS with Wolverine





SGL31 with ZenitCo B10M+B33 topcover, DBAL A3 and Kashtan 1P with AAC Mini 4 5.56


Old style AKM

Modern AK103





Auzie's RPK74



1PN51







With TA31GH and TNVC PVS14




AAC 51T Brakeout 2 with Griffin 24x1.5 adapter


With NPZ PN22K Gen 3 Day/Night


Mini 4

PBS-1


SOCOM 7.62 RC and 1P63 Obzor



1PN93


AKSU with ZenitCo B11 Handguard. This is a tight little package and very handy. Holosun does not interfere with 1PN93
















Link Posted: 12/18/2017 8:50:20 PM EST
[Last Edit: 4/26/2020 1:27:49 PM EST by TX-Zen]
After 18 months of various ups and downs waiting on my PBS-1 Wolverine, I have now been able to suppress my Tiger. This is a project I've been after for a long time but hampered because SVDs are expensive and I didn't want to permanently modify a rare collectors rifle. Some guys have had custom barrels made and some others have moved the FSB back and had the existing barrel threaded for a suppressor but I tried a different direction and had a custom AK74 style FSB made by a really good machinist. I have to say his work turned out fantastic and I couldn't be happier with it. BR762 from the AKFiles forum did the FSB fitting and mounting to my Tiger

I have not been able to test POI shift suppressed or unsuppressed yet, frankly I have been having too much fun blasting away to be scientific just yet. So far the ejection distance of spent brass appears to be the same but I'll have more detailed info in the next few weeks when I get down and systematically bench the rifle


The big write up is in progress but here are a few photos til that's done.
















At 300 yards with PN22K day/night gen 3 optic




Custom 24x1.5 FSB based on an AK74 but designed for the NDM86 barrel. Top is the modern SVD flash hider, bottom is the SVDS flash hider


My particular barrel tapered slightly at the muzzle and two small 3.5mm pins were added to help stabilize the front collar area








Tiger SVD and AK105


Confirming zero at 100 with the REAP-IR. You can see most paper targets clearly if they have a bit of contrast to absorb heat. I've been able to see 1 inch squares on paper targets at 50 yards, and the bullet hole through paper right after putting rounds on the target


I don't own enough land to justify a mule but I will for damn sure be getting one if I ever own a ranch. This has been by far the funnest way I have ever hunted. Spot while driving and fire from a short halt, very similar to my time as an Abrams commander haha







The unfortunate varmints who ceased to cause trouble for the landowner after being acquired in the thermal








Link Posted: 12/18/2017 9:13:23 PM EST
OST.
Link Posted: 12/18/2017 9:41:34 PM EST
All I can say is...  "WOW!!!!"

Those are some kick ass AKs!

BIGGER_HAMMER
Link Posted: 12/19/2017 12:11:42 AM EST


Link Posted: 12/19/2017 8:59:34 AM EST
I'm very interested in suppressing one of my AKs.  Any tips?  It will have a chopped barrel so I'm not worried about the threads and shoulder.  I have a direct thread 30cal can looking for a home.

I was wondering if cutting back and/or "porting" the gas tube could help to relieve some of the back pressure and over gassing?
Link Posted: 12/19/2017 9:03:52 AM EST
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Originally Posted By ordersman:

I was wondering if cutting back and/or "porting" the gas tube could help to relieve some of the back pressure and over gassing?
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Unfortunately, the "gas tube" on an AK is really more of a piston guide tube. Adding more holes will not affect the gas pressure.
Link Posted: 12/19/2017 9:25:56 AM EST
Noice. Have you done a review on the PBS1 Tx?
Link Posted: 12/19/2017 9:37:00 AM EST
[Last Edit: 12/19/2017 9:46:16 AM EST by Sparks556]
RPK


Vepr 308

Link Posted: 12/19/2017 9:37:55 AM EST
I have a few huntertown arms cans they were crazy good priced and do ok but I will be rocking some wolverine cans soon hopefully.

Link Posted: 12/19/2017 9:40:31 AM EST
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Originally Posted By walkinginadangerzone:
Noice. Have you done a review on the PBS1 Tx?
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Not yet, it should be arriving from Capitol Armory before the end of the year. Hope to very soon
Link Posted: 12/19/2017 11:43:43 AM EST
cool pics everyone, thanks for sharing
Link Posted: 12/19/2017 12:57:17 PM EST
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Originally Posted By TX-Zen:
Not yet, it should be arriving from Capitol Armory before the end of the year. Hope to very soon
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Originally Posted By walkinginadangerzone:
Noice. Have you done a review on the PBS1 Tx?
Not yet, it should be arriving from Capitol Armory before the end of the year. Hope to very soon
Awesome, looking forward towards it like your optic threads.
Link Posted: 12/19/2017 1:39:49 PM EST
Link Posted: 12/20/2017 12:12:05 AM EST
Man, I don't feel worthy posting in a TX-Zen thread.


Potato pic.  

Gemtech HALO with a Vltor HALO-74 adapter on rebuilt Bulgarian AKS-74 kit.  Dunno if it was because it was a military barrel, the barrel was made on a Tuesday (weekend hangover is over, Friday hangover hasn't started ), or just straight dumb luck, but it works pretty well, no baffle strikes.  Not as good as an AR, you get a gas jet under the dust cover, but better than the AUG I've also tried it on before.  The Vltor adapter would work on any 24mm FSB, but I haven't tried it on any of my others aside from a SLR-106 where there is a lot of resistance screwing it down.

I like that Griffin 24mm adapter, I've screwed around with a lot of those 24mm adapters but I've never found one I trusted.  I like how it indexes on the muzzle.  Need to look into that to setup some 51T adapters.

Hopefully a Wolverine in my future, it's just been low in priority.
Link Posted: 12/20/2017 10:34:15 PM EST
Suppressed M85NP

Link Posted: 12/20/2017 11:06:08 PM EST
I'm assuming you've had good luck using the 24x1.5 adapter, TX?  I'm contemplating using the one from CNC Warrior with an AAC brake for my SDN-6.  I've just been buying bakelite mags instead. Haha
Link Posted: 12/21/2017 12:47:09 AM EST
Rifle Dynamics x Arsenal 104UR x Dead Air Sandman-K



Arsenal 107FR x Dead Air Wolverine PBS-1



AKT-98 x Dead Air Mask

Link Posted: 12/21/2017 10:48:44 AM EST
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Rifle Dynamics x Arsenal 104UR x Dead Air Sandman-K

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4554/38331962964_ee9f9cc3b1_z.jpg

Arsenal 107FR x Dead Air Wolverine PBS-1

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4488/38052641811_b4c126300c.jpg

AKT-98 x Dead Air Mask

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4398/35518125734_38c36f392c_o.jpg
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Hows the SLR107 with the wolverine? Any increase in back pressure? Also, how about your krink and sandman?
Link Posted: 12/21/2017 11:05:02 AM EST
Vepr 7.62x54r / Sico Specwar .

Link Posted: 12/21/2017 11:15:34 AM EST
[Last Edit: 12/21/2017 11:19:22 AM EST by TxRabbitBane]
I confess, my AK (yes, singular)is unsupressed.

I haven’t monkeyed with my sig556R (it’s sort of AK-ish) to see if it’ll suppress.

If I ever get off my ass with my 5.45 Krink project, I plan to can it.  TX-Zen, you’re the guy with the extremely badass rattlecan paint job on a krink, right?

In my “sort of want” folder is an HK-pattern 7.62x39 (maybe SBR), which would need another can

Too much work, too much pussdom, not enough time For fun fun projects lately.

I am full of fail and should feel bad.
Link Posted: 12/21/2017 2:09:58 PM EST
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Originally Posted By TxRabbitBane:
I confess, my AK (yes, singular)is unsupressed.

I haven’t monkeyed with my sig556R (it’s sort of AK-ish) to see if it’ll suppress.

If I ever get off my ass with my 5.45 Krink project, I plan to can it.  TX-Zen, you’re the guy with the extremely badass rattlecan paint job on a krink, right?

In my “sort of want” folder is an HK-pattern 7.62x39 (maybe SBR), which would need another can

Too much work, too much pussdom, not enough time For fun fun projects lately.

I am full of fail and should feel bad.
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I can tell you that the 556R in its original flavor is waaaaay overgassed, and using a suppressor on it causes it to cycle faster than the magazine can feed.  I had my gas valve modifed to add "off" and "maybe suppressed" positions with no port and an extremely small port.  I haven't tested it yet, but my plan was to drill it out step by step until it works.

Supposedly the PTR-32 runs pretty well suppressed, I have mine setup for it but also haven't had a chance to test it.  A suppressed 7.62x39 semi auto has been a goal of mine for a while. Probably should just order the Wolverine since it's designed to work with AKs nicely.
Link Posted: 12/21/2017 3:32:54 PM EST
A couple of Non-AK, AKish suppressed guns....



Link Posted: 12/21/2017 4:01:24 PM EST
My M92 with a form 1 8'' can, I had to modify the hell out of a gas piston to get it to run without beating up the rear trunnion. has 2800 rounds through it to date (75%of those suppressed)and runs perfect. I'm always surprised at threads like these where guys throw a can on their AK's and do nothing to tame the crazy overgassing you'll get, that shit will kill your trunnion, rivets, or receiver if it's bad enough.

Next to the 12.5'' SBR
Link Posted: 12/21/2017 11:18:55 PM EST
[Last Edit: 12/21/2017 11:19:50 PM EST by dryflash3]
Link Posted: 12/22/2017 8:20:24 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Poppy83:
I'm assuming you've had good luck using the 24x1.5 adapter, TX?  I'm contemplating using the one from CNC Warrior with an AAC brake for my SDN-6.  I've just been buying bakelite mags instead. Haha
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I'm assuming you've had good luck using the 24x1.5 adapter, TX?  I'm contemplating using the one from CNC Warrior with an AAC brake for my SDN-6.  I've just been buying bakelite mags instead. Haha
I use the Griffin, not the CNC, and the Griffin is quite good yes

I don't use the CNC adapter with my AAC mounts because you still have to be ultra careful about the concentricity problem. No disrespect to CNC because they make a good adapter but IMO it doesn't help with concentricity. It indexes against the FSB detent pin like any muzzle device and while it works extremely well as a thread adapter it is still affected by the threads same as any other muzzle device. Some of my AKs are non-concentric enough that I don't want to risk a suppressor, some are marginal and some straight as an arrow. For the marginal ones I can squeak by with the Griffin but not the CNC

The Griffin indexes to the muzzle face and according to them gives you the highest chance for proper alignment of the adapter and the barrel. From what I have seen I would believe this is true. As I said on my marginal rifles the CNC is still a no go but the Griffin does seem to improve the situation

Since I am a 24x1.5 FSB kind of guy I would say that in my collection it's about 50/50 of good to go vs iffy or non-concentric threads. IMO 24x1.5 seems to have a higher percentage of non-concentric threads than directly threaded barrels. I don't have as much experience with 14x1 but we checked a good number of Auzie and Joshard's rifles and I would say over 90% looked good to go. As always though, each time you want to add a suppressor to an AK it takes a bit of soul searching, a lot of triple checking concentricity and then a decision to go for it. I think the boogey man is in the first few, after that you get a feel for what is going to work and what isn't.

Originally Posted By TxRabbitBane:
TX-Zen, you're the guy with the extremely badass rattlecan paint job on a krink, right?
Yeah that's me. Sold it but planning on doing another

Originally Posted By dryflash3:
I'm going to set the archive toggle to keep this thread out of the archives.
Thanks Dry, that's very kind of you
Link Posted: 12/22/2017 8:24:01 AM EST
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RPK

Vepr 308
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RPK

Vepr 308
Love the camo schemes my friend and always enjoy your photos. I wish we had that much space and desert in Texas!

Originally Posted By Findsman:
Man, I don't feel worthy posting in a TX-Zen thread.
Haha thanks mate, but I'm a regular guy like you. Just been building the collection slowly over the past 10 years. Good luck on the Wolverine!

Thanks for posting my friend, and thanks for the advice and experience from your Tiger. I'll give you a buzz after the new year when my PBS-1 arrives
Link Posted: 12/22/2017 8:31:16 AM EST
Link Posted: 12/22/2017 9:35:48 PM EST
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Originally Posted By TX-Zen:

I use the Griffin, not the CNC, and the Griffin is quite good yes

I don't use the CNC adapter with my AAC mounts because you still have to be ultra careful about the concentricity problem. No disrespect to CNC because they make a good adapter but IMO it doesn't help with concentricity. It indexes against the FSB detent pin like any muzzle device and while it works extremely well as a thread adapter it is still affected by the threads same as any other muzzle device. Some of my AKs are non-concentric enough that I don't want to risk a suppressor, some are marginal and some straight as an arrow. For the marginal ones I can squeak by with the Griffin but not the CNC

The Griffin indexes to the muzzle face and according to them gives you the highest chance for proper alignment of the adapter and the barrel. From what I have seen I would believe this is true. As I said on my marginal rifles the CNC is still a no go but the Griffin does seem to improve the situation

Since I am a 24x1.5 FSB kind of guy I would say that in my collection it's about 50/50 of good to go vs iffy or non-concentric threads. IMO 24x1.5 seems to have a higher percentage of non-concentric threads than directly threaded barrels. I don't have as much experience with 14x1 but we checked a good number of Auzie and Joshard's rifles and I would say over 90% looked good to go. As always though, each time you want to add a suppressor to an AK it takes a bit of soul searching, a lot of triple checking concentricity and then a decision to go for it. I think the boogey man is in the first few, after that you get a feel for what is going to work and what isn't.

Yeah that's me. Sold it but planning on doing another

Thanks Dry, that's very kind of you
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Thank you for the in-depth response.  I was unaware of the differences in the adapters.  I already have the CNC adapter on and when I put my AAC Blackout on there, it seems to have enough clearance.  I took the bolt and carrier out and was looking through the rear.  I also jave an alignment rod from McMaster and it clears.  It still makes me nervous, though.

I should have the AAC Brake in the next week or so and then I'll check using it.  If I'm not comfortable, then I at least really like that brake.
Link Posted: 12/23/2017 9:34:03 AM EST
Lol the barrel on my AK is so canted, you’d really be able to see it with a can on the end...
Link Posted: 12/23/2017 9:35:54 AM EST
Great thread. I’ve had very minimal (noticeable?) increase in gas pressures with the Wolverine PBS1 on my AKs. They’re definitely not “Suppressed AR” quiet but, as long as you understand that, it’s still pretty awesome and I highly recommend it as an out-of-the-box suppressor for AKs. It is noticeable quieter on two different VZ58s I have but, it seems to overgas those and I do get misfeeds.
Link Posted: 12/24/2017 8:34:59 PM EST
Might have to get a griffin adapter for the Draco.

Got a ti 7.62 can that would be great on it
Link Posted: 12/24/2017 8:54:36 PM EST
So jelly.........
Link Posted: 12/30/2017 2:11:08 AM EST
Draco SBR with a titanium form 1 can i built.  Can screws onto a griffin minimalist flash hider.  Made the gas block adjustable, very pleasureable to shoot after adjusting it. I shoot it without ear pro, no ringing in my ears.

Link Posted: 12/30/2017 5:00:31 PM EST
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Draco SBR with a titanium form 1 can i built.  Can screws onto a griffin minimalist flash hider.  Made the gas block adjustable, very pleasureable to shoot after adjusting it. I shoot it without ear pro, no ringing in my ears.

http://i64.tinypic.com/70l4t1.jpg
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wow the dracos look so good with a can... I have owned 2 and sold them like a idiot I need to pick up another soon. nice boom stick brother...
Link Posted: 12/31/2017 2:03:24 PM EST
Saiganov .223 with HTA Kestrel.  Is that thing a collectors item now?

Link Posted: 1/7/2018 7:45:41 AM EST
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F1 Tula Krink with HTA Kestrel-

Link Posted: 1/7/2018 9:50:54 AM EST
Has anyone used a Silencerco Hybrid on their AK? I wanted to buy 1 can that would handle all of my rifles and pistols other than rimfire. Never really thought of suppressing one of my AK's but I figured I would ask. I would probably only want to suppress my Arsenal's. Preban stuff only get shot occasionally and I would rather not modify them in any way. I'm figuring they would most likely have concentric threads. Not sure but I would imagine they very possibly could be over gassed. Are each of your guns being modified to run one can and only run suppressed? Sorry for the noob questions. Just joined here and read this thread.
Link Posted: 1/7/2018 10:11:58 AM EST
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Originally Posted By JoeCorrado:
Has anyone used a Silencerco Hybrid on their AK? I wanted to buy 1 can that would handle all of my rifles and pistols other than rimfire. Never really thought of suppressing one of my AK's but I figured I would ask. I would probably only want to suppress my Arsenal's. Preban stuff only get shot occasionally and I would rather not modify them in any way. I'm figuring they would most likely have concentric threads. Not sure but I would imagine they very possibly could be over gassed. Are each of your guns being modified to run one can and only run suppressed? Sorry for the noob questions. Just joined here and read this thread.
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I slapped a dead air flash hider on it (Key-mo adapter for my hybrid) and run it. Pics in 5...

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In all fairness, understand what you're getting. It's a master at none. Put weight in looking at a Dead Air sandman (coming from the owner of 3 SiCo's)
Link Posted: 1/7/2018 12:12:07 PM EST
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Place holder for something cool with the Tiger
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Zen are the SGL31 still relatively available?
Link Posted: 1/7/2018 4:23:49 PM EST
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Zen are the SGL31 still relatively available?
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Yes, if you are willing to pay up. I don't think I've seen one posted for less than $1500-1600 in the last year. Even more for the factory side folders. I thought I overpaid ($1200) for mine right after the ban but they are a quality AK and it looks like they will hold their value. That said I'm shooting the piss out of mine and enjoying every range trip
Link Posted: 1/7/2018 4:32:36 PM EST
Looking forward to putting together something like this.

Link Posted: 1/7/2018 8:14:48 PM EST
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F1 Tula Krink with HTA Kestrel-

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*swoon*
Link Posted: 1/9/2018 9:42:01 AM EST
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@JoeCorrado

I slapped a dead air flash hider on it (Key-mo adapter for my hybrid) and run it. Pics in 5...

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In all fairness, understand what you're getting. It's a master at none. Put weight in looking at a Dead Air sandman (coming from the owner of 3 SiCo's)
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I would look at a different suppressor company but I get a deal on SiCo cans. I appreciate your input on what this can is. I know I'll buy more but I wanted something in the mean time before/if the HPA passes. I really wanted to add it on to my SCAR 17 and then started thinking about my other rifles. Somewhere I got it in my head that AK's can be finicky about running suppressed and just happened to stumble across this thread. I bought a Warlock II as well to suppress my 22's and figured anything I wanted to suppress, I now will be able to. Thanks again!
Link Posted: 1/10/2018 1:57:49 PM EST
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Originally Posted By hitchhiker:
Draco SBR with a titanium form 1 can i built.  Can screws onto a griffin minimalist flash hider.  Made the gas block adjustable, very pleasureable to shoot after adjusting it. I shoot it without ear pro, no ringing in my ears.

http://i64.tinypic.com/70l4t1.jpg
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@hitchhiker can you comment more on your gas block? How did you make it adjustable?
Link Posted: 1/17/2018 9:59:07 PM EST
Saiga 5.45 SiCo Omega.

Link Posted: 1/20/2018 2:30:07 AM EST


SLR-104fr with VLTOR adapter and Gemtech Halo
Link Posted: 1/24/2018 12:41:01 PM EST
any recommendations on a good 14x1 to 5/8x24 thread adapter? wanting to put my rugged surge on a slr107 when i get it
Link Posted: 1/25/2018 2:26:27 AM EST
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Based on my experience with the 24x1.5 to 1/2x28 I'd say get this:

https://www.silencershop.com/griffin-14x1lh-to-5-8x24-adaptor.html
Link Posted: 1/25/2018 7:38:03 PM EST
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@hitchhiker can you comment more on your gas block? How did you make it adjustable?
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I drilled into the top of the gas block and tapped it 1/4x28.  The hole i drilled and tapped lines up with the gas port hole coming up through the FSB, so as you screw in the grub screw i installed it closes off the gas port opening.  It cycles without the can at about 95% closed, so it would be rediculously overgassed without the mod.  Ill try and post pics tonight.
Link Posted: 1/25/2018 10:12:50 PM EST
Here it is:  1/4x28 x 3/8" grub screw.  The screw can go in far enough to completely close off the gas port.  Ill post another pic to show how small the opening is with it set to barely cycle unsuppressed.

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