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Posted: 12/18/2017 8:48:56 PM EST
[Last Edit: 4/26/2020 1:25:02 PM EST by TX-Zen]
Post em if you have em. Your own suppressors and .mil welcome
Updated 2020: AK105 with Sandman K + E-Brake, ZenitCo Perst 2 laser, Skeet-IR and Kashtan 2.8x  Sandman K with PEQ15 and Browe BTO optic  Sandman K with DBAL A4  Griffin M4SDK modified to Dead Air KeyMo mount by ECCO Machining  Sandman K, 762SDN-6, SOCOM762, Wolverine  SOCCOM 762   AK103 with Obzor and Rugged Micro 30  Sandman K  Griffin M4SD-K (bottom) and Mini 4 (top)  Dead Air PBS-1 Wolverine with 1P63 Obzor    Browe BTO-RS with Wolverine    SGL31 with ZenitCo B10M+B33 topcover, DBAL A3 and Kashtan 1P with AAC Mini 4 5.56  Old style AKM  Modern AK103    Auzie's RPK74  1PN51  With TA31GH and TNVC PVS14    AAC 51T Brakeout 2 with Griffin 24x1.5 adapter  With NPZ PN22K Gen 3 Day/Night  Mini 4  PBS-1  SOCOM 7.62 RC and 1P63 Obzor   1PN93  AKSU with ZenitCo B11 Handguard. This is a tight little package and very handy. Holosun does not interfere with 1PN93       
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Posted: 12/18/2017 8:50:20 PM EST
[Last Edit: 4/26/2020 1:27:49 PM EST by TX-Zen]
After 18 months of various ups and downs waiting on my PBS-1 Wolverine, I have now been able to suppress my Tiger. This is a project I've been after for a long time but hampered because SVDs are expensive and I didn't want to permanently modify a rare collectors rifle. Some guys have had custom barrels made and some others have moved the FSB back and had the existing barrel threaded for a suppressor but I tried a different direction and had a custom AK74 style FSB made by a really good machinist. I have to say his work turned out fantastic and I couldn't be happier with it. BR762 from the AKFiles forum did the FSB fitting and mounting to my Tiger
I have not been able to test POI shift suppressed or unsuppressed yet, frankly I have been having too much fun blasting away to be scientific just yet. So far the ejection distance of spent brass appears to be the same but I'll have more detailed info in the next few weeks when I get down and systematically bench the rifle The big write up is in progress but here are a few photos til that's done.        At 300 yards with PN22K day/night gen 3 optic  Custom 24x1.5 FSB based on an AK74 but designed for the NDM86 barrel. Top is the modern SVD flash hider, bottom is the SVDS flash hider  My particular barrel tapered slightly at the muzzle and two small 3.5mm pins were added to help stabilize the front collar area      Tiger SVD and AK105  Confirming zero at 100 with the REAP-IR. You can see most paper targets clearly if they have a bit of contrast to absorb heat. I've been able to see 1 inch squares on paper targets at 50 yards, and the bullet hole through paper right after putting rounds on the target  I don't own enough land to justify a mule but I will for damn sure be getting one if I ever own a ranch. This has been by far the funnest way I have ever hunted. Spot while driving and fire from a short halt, very similar to my time as an Abrams commander haha   The unfortunate varmints who ceased to cause trouble for the landowner after being acquired in the thermal    |
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Posted: 12/18/2017 9:13:23 PM EST
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Posted: 12/18/2017 9:41:34 PM EST
All I can say is... "WOW!!!!"
Those are some kick ass AKs! BIGGER_HAMMER 
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Posted: 12/19/2017 12:11:42 AM EST
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Posted: 12/19/2017 8:59:34 AM EST
I'm very interested in suppressing one of my AKs. Any tips? It will have a chopped barrel so I'm not worried about the threads and shoulder. I have a direct thread 30cal can looking for a home.
I was wondering if cutting back and/or "porting" the gas tube could help to relieve some of the back pressure and over gassing? |
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Posted: 12/19/2017 9:03:52 AM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By ordersman:
I was wondering if cutting back and/or "porting" the gas tube could help to relieve some of the back pressure and over gassing? |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 12/19/2017 9:25:56 AM EST
Noice. Have you done a review on the PBS1 Tx?
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Posted: 12/19/2017 9:37:00 AM EST
[Last Edit: 12/19/2017 9:46:16 AM EST by Sparks556]
RPK
Vepr 308 
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Posted: 12/19/2017 9:37:55 AM EST
I have a few huntertown arms cans they were crazy good priced and do ok but I will be rocking some wolverine cans soon hopefully.
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Posted: 12/19/2017 9:40:31 AM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By walkinginadangerzone:
Noice. Have you done a review on the PBS1 Tx? |
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Posted: 12/19/2017 11:43:43 AM EST
cool pics everyone, thanks for sharing
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TX, USA
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Posted: 12/19/2017 12:57:17 PM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By TX-Zen:
Not yet, it should be arriving from Capitol Armory before the end of the year. Hope to very soon Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TX-Zen:
Originally Posted By walkinginadangerzone:
Noice. Have you done a review on the PBS1 Tx? |
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Posted: 12/19/2017 1:39:49 PM EST
It was "recommended" to me to go with the Reece 7 for my AK's. That was a total failure. Was told the barrel was not concentric enough for this later after buying the Reece's. Checked double digit numbers of AK's to see if any of them would work. From pre Ban Polytechs to Arsenals, to the Arsenal SBRs that the Reece7 was originally "recommended" for, not a damn one of them worked out.
I was also told the PSD Megalith was the other way to go with AK's- just as bad - but Finally a shitty truck gun probably home built WASR like AK I bought at a gunshow lined up. And the results were far from impressive. Had to buy a couple more .308s to get my money's worth out of the Reece 7's. |
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Posted: 12/20/2017 12:12:05 AM EST
Man, I don't feel worthy posting in a TX-Zen thread.
Potato pic. 
Gemtech HALO with a Vltor HALO-74 adapter on rebuilt Bulgarian AKS-74 kit. Dunno if it was because it was a military barrel, the barrel was made on a Tuesday (weekend hangover is over, Friday hangover hasn't started  ), or just straight dumb luck, but it works pretty well, no baffle strikes. Not as good as an AR, you get a gas jet under the dust cover, but better than the AUG I've also tried it on before. The Vltor adapter would work on any 24mm FSB, but I haven't tried it on any of my others aside from a SLR-106 where there is a lot of resistance screwing it down.
I like that Griffin 24mm adapter, I've screwed around with a lot of those 24mm adapters but I've never found one I trusted. I like how it indexes on the muzzle. Need to look into that to setup some 51T adapters. Hopefully a Wolverine in my future, it's just been low in priority. |
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Posted: 12/20/2017 10:34:15 PM EST
Suppressed M85NP
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GA, USA
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Posted: 12/20/2017 11:06:08 PM EST
I'm assuming you've had good luck using the 24x1.5 adapter, TX? I'm contemplating using the one from CNC Warrior with an AAC brake for my SDN-6. I've just been buying bakelite mags instead. Haha
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Posted: 12/21/2017 12:47:09 AM EST
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TX, USA
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Posted: 12/21/2017 10:48:44 AM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By Cartel-:
Rifle Dynamics x Arsenal 104UR x Dead Air Sandman-K https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4554/38331962964_ee9f9cc3b1_z.jpg Arsenal 107FR x Dead Air Wolverine PBS-1 https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4488/38052641811_b4c126300c.jpg AKT-98 x Dead Air Mask https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4398/35518125734_38c36f392c_o.jpg |
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Posted: 12/21/2017 11:05:02 AM EST
Vepr 7.62x54r / Sico Specwar .
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Posted: 12/21/2017 11:15:34 AM EST
[Last Edit: 12/21/2017 11:19:22 AM EST by TxRabbitBane]
I confess, my AK (yes, singular)is unsupressed.
I haven’t monkeyed with my sig556R (it’s sort of AK-ish) to see if it’ll suppress. If I ever get off my ass with my 5.45 Krink project, I plan to can it. TX-Zen, you’re the guy with the extremely badass rattlecan paint job on a krink, right? In my “sort of want” folder is an HK-pattern 7.62x39 (maybe SBR), which would need another can Too much work, too much pussdom, not enough time For fun fun projects lately. I am full of fail and should feel bad. |
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Posted: 12/21/2017 2:09:58 PM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By TxRabbitBane:
I confess, my AK (yes, singular)is unsupressed. I haven’t monkeyed with my sig556R (it’s sort of AK-ish) to see if it’ll suppress. If I ever get off my ass with my 5.45 Krink project, I plan to can it. TX-Zen, you’re the guy with the extremely badass rattlecan paint job on a krink, right? In my “sort of want” folder is an HK-pattern 7.62x39 (maybe SBR), which would need another can Too much work, too much pussdom, not enough time For fun fun projects lately. I am full of fail and should feel bad. Supposedly the PTR-32 runs pretty well suppressed, I have mine setup for it but also haven't had a chance to test it. A suppressed 7.62x39 semi auto has been a goal of mine for a while. Probably should just order the Wolverine since it's designed to work with AKs nicely.
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Posted: 12/21/2017 3:32:54 PM EST
A couple of Non-AK, AKish suppressed guns....
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FL, USA
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Posted: 12/21/2017 4:01:24 PM EST
My M92 with a form 1 8'' can, I had to modify the hell out of a gas piston to get it to run without beating up the rear trunnion. has 2800 rounds through it to date (75%of those suppressed)and runs perfect. I'm always surprised at threads like these where guys throw a can on their AK's and do nothing to tame the crazy overgassing you'll get, that shit will kill your trunnion, rivets, or receiver if it's bad enough.
Next to the 12.5'' SBR 
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Posted: 12/21/2017 11:18:55 PM EST
[Last Edit: 12/21/2017 11:19:50 PM EST by dryflash3]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TX-Zen:
Place holder for something cool with the Tiger So for @TX-Zen, if he is in this forum and he clicks on My Topics, this thread will be there. Makes it easy to find this thread if it slips off page 1. eta, toggle set. |
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Posted: 12/22/2017 8:20:24 AM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By Poppy83:
I'm assuming you've had good luck using the 24x1.5 adapter, TX? I'm contemplating using the one from CNC Warrior with an AAC brake for my SDN-6. I've just been buying bakelite mags instead. Haha Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Poppy83:
I'm assuming you've had good luck using the 24x1.5 adapter, TX? I'm contemplating using the one from CNC Warrior with an AAC brake for my SDN-6. I've just been buying bakelite mags instead. Haha I don't use the CNC adapter with my AAC mounts because you still have to be ultra careful about the concentricity problem. No disrespect to CNC because they make a good adapter but IMO it doesn't help with concentricity. It indexes against the FSB detent pin like any muzzle device and while it works extremely well as a thread adapter it is still affected by the threads same as any other muzzle device. Some of my AKs are non-concentric enough that I don't want to risk a suppressor, some are marginal and some straight as an arrow. For the marginal ones I can squeak by with the Griffin but not the CNC The Griffin indexes to the muzzle face and according to them gives you the highest chance for proper alignment of the adapter and the barrel. From what I have seen I would believe this is true. As I said on my marginal rifles the CNC is still a no go but the Griffin does seem to improve the situation Since I am a 24x1.5 FSB kind of guy I would say that in my collection it's about 50/50 of good to go vs iffy or non-concentric threads. IMO 24x1.5 seems to have a higher percentage of non-concentric threads than directly threaded barrels. I don't have as much experience with 14x1 but we checked a good number of Auzie and Joshard's rifles and I would say over 90% looked good to go. As always though, each time you want to add a suppressor to an AK it takes a bit of soul searching, a lot of triple checking concentricity and then a decision to go for it. I think the boogey man is in the first few, after that you get a feel for what is going to work and what isn't. Originally Posted By TxRabbitBane:
TX-Zen, you're the guy with the extremely badass rattlecan paint job on a krink, right? Originally Posted By dryflash3:
I'm going to set the archive toggle to keep this thread out of the archives. |
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Posted: 12/22/2017 8:24:01 AM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By Sparks556:
RPK Vepr 308 Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Sparks556:
RPK Vepr 308 Originally Posted By Findsman:
Man, I don't feel worthy posting in a TX-Zen thread. Originally Posted By Hilljack:
A couple of Non-AK, AKish suppressed guns.... http://photos.dragunov.us/i.ashx?&mid=100956104&mt=Photo&standardsize=900x517 http://photos.dragunov.us/i.ashx?gallery=261741&mid=101662153&mt=Photo&standardsize=900x369 |
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Posted: 12/22/2017 8:31:16 AM EST
Your welcome.
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GA, USA
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Posted: 12/22/2017 9:35:48 PM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By TX-Zen: I use the Griffin, not the CNC, and the Griffin is quite good yes I don't use the CNC adapter with my AAC mounts because you still have to be ultra careful about the concentricity problem. No disrespect to CNC because they make a good adapter but IMO it doesn't help with concentricity. It indexes against the FSB detent pin like any muzzle device and while it works extremely well as a thread adapter it is still affected by the threads same as any other muzzle device. Some of my AKs are non-concentric enough that I don't want to risk a suppressor, some are marginal and some straight as an arrow. For the marginal ones I can squeak by with the Griffin but not the CNC The Griffin indexes to the muzzle face and according to them gives you the highest chance for proper alignment of the adapter and the barrel. From what I have seen I would believe this is true. As I said on my marginal rifles the CNC is still a no go but the Griffin does seem to improve the situation Since I am a 24x1.5 FSB kind of guy I would say that in my collection it's about 50/50 of good to go vs iffy or non-concentric threads. IMO 24x1.5 seems to have a higher percentage of non-concentric threads than directly threaded barrels. I don't have as much experience with 14x1 but we checked a good number of Auzie and Joshard's rifles and I would say over 90% looked good to go. As always though, each time you want to add a suppressor to an AK it takes a bit of soul searching, a lot of triple checking concentricity and then a decision to go for it. I think the boogey man is in the first few, after that you get a feel for what is going to work and what isn't. Yeah that's me. Sold it but planning on doing another Thanks Dry, that's very kind of you I should have the AAC Brake in the next week or so and then I'll check using it. If I'm not comfortable, then I at least really like that brake. |
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Posted: 12/23/2017 9:34:03 AM EST
Lol the barrel on my AK is so canted, you’d really be able to see it with a can on the end...
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NE, USA
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Posted: 12/23/2017 9:35:54 AM EST
Great thread. I’ve had very minimal (noticeable?) increase in gas pressures with the Wolverine PBS1 on my AKs. They’re definitely not “Suppressed AR” quiet but, as long as you understand that, it’s still pretty awesome and I highly recommend it as an out-of-the-box suppressor for AKs. It is noticeable quieter on two different VZ58s I have but, it seems to overgas those and I do get misfeeds.
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Posted: 12/24/2017 8:34:59 PM EST
Might have to get a griffin adapter for the Draco.
Got a ti 7.62 can that would be great on it |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 12/24/2017 8:54:36 PM EST
So jelly.........
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Posted: 12/30/2017 2:11:08 AM EST
Draco SBR with a titanium form 1 can i built. Can screws onto a griffin minimalist flash hider. Made the gas block adjustable, very pleasureable to shoot after adjusting it. I shoot it without ear pro, no ringing in my ears.
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Posted: 12/30/2017 5:00:31 PM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By hitchhiker:
Draco SBR with a titanium form 1 can i built. Can screws onto a griffin minimalist flash hider. Made the gas block adjustable, very pleasureable to shoot after adjusting it. I shoot it without ear pro, no ringing in my ears. http://i64.tinypic.com/70l4t1.jpg |
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Posted: 12/31/2017 2:03:24 PM EST
Saiganov .223 with HTA Kestrel. Is that thing a collectors item now?
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Posted: 1/7/2018 7:45:41 AM EST
[Last Edit: 1/7/2018 7:46:28 AM EST by mustangduckk]
F1 Tula Krink with HTA Kestrel-
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FL, USA
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Posted: 1/7/2018 9:50:54 AM EST
Has anyone used a Silencerco Hybrid on their AK? I wanted to buy 1 can that would handle all of my rifles and pistols other than rimfire. Never really thought of suppressing one of my AK's but I figured I would ask. I would probably only want to suppress my Arsenal's. Preban stuff only get shot occasionally and I would rather not modify them in any way. I'm figuring they would most likely have concentric threads. Not sure but I would imagine they very possibly could be over gassed. Are each of your guns being modified to run one can and only run suppressed? Sorry for the noob questions. Just joined here and read this thread.
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Posted: 1/7/2018 10:11:58 AM EST
[Last Edit: 1/7/2018 11:18:15 AM EST by Shortbuss]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JoeCorrado:
Has anyone used a Silencerco Hybrid on their AK? I wanted to buy 1 can that would handle all of my rifles and pistols other than rimfire. Never really thought of suppressing one of my AK's but I figured I would ask. I would probably only want to suppress my Arsenal's. Preban stuff only get shot occasionally and I would rather not modify them in any way. I'm figuring they would most likely have concentric threads. Not sure but I would imagine they very possibly could be over gassed. Are each of your guns being modified to run one can and only run suppressed? Sorry for the noob questions. Just joined here and read this thread. I slapped a dead air flash hider on it (Key-mo adapter for my hybrid) and run it. Pics in 5...  Attached File Attached File Attached FileIn all fairness, understand what you're getting. It's a master at none. Put weight in looking at a Dead Air sandman (coming from the owner of 3 SiCo's) |
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Posted: 1/7/2018 12:12:07 PM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By TX-Zen:
Place holder for something cool with the Tiger |
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Posted: 1/7/2018 4:23:49 PM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By saigamanTX:
Zen are the SGL31 still relatively available? 
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Posted: 1/7/2018 4:32:36 PM EST
Looking forward to putting together something like this.
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Posted: 1/7/2018 8:14:48 PM EST
Quote History *swoon*
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FL, USA
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Posted: 1/9/2018 9:42:01 AM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By Shortbuss: @JoeCorrado I slapped a dead air flash hider on it (Key-mo adapter for my hybrid) and run it. Pics in 5... https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/376523/20180107_110907-413492.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/376523/1515341422560653022327-413493.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/376523/1515341454818193493239-413495.JPG In all fairness, understand what you're getting. It's a master at none. Put weight in looking at a Dead Air sandman (coming from the owner of 3 SiCo's) |
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Posted: 1/10/2018 1:57:49 PM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By hitchhiker:
Draco SBR with a titanium form 1 can i built. Can screws onto a griffin minimalist flash hider. Made the gas block adjustable, very pleasureable to shoot after adjusting it. I shoot it without ear pro, no ringing in my ears. http://i64.tinypic.com/70l4t1.jpg |
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Posted: 1/17/2018 9:59:07 PM EST
Saiga 5.45 SiCo Omega.
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USA
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Posted: 1/20/2018 2:30:07 AM EST
SLR-104fr with VLTOR adapter and Gemtech Halo |
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Posted: 1/24/2018 12:41:01 PM EST
any recommendations on a good 14x1 to 5/8x24 thread adapter? wanting to put my rugged surge on a slr107 when i get it
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Posted: 1/25/2018 2:26:27 AM EST
[Last Edit: 1/25/2018 2:26:50 AM EST by TX-Zen]
Based on my experience with the 24x1.5 to 1/2x28 I'd say get this:
https://www.silencershop.com/griffin-14x1lh-to-5-8x24-adaptor.html |
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Posted: 1/25/2018 7:38:03 PM EST
Quote History Originally Posted By ordersman: @hitchhiker can you comment more on your gas block? How did you make it adjustable? |
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Posted: 1/25/2018 10:12:50 PM EST
Here it is: 1/4x28 x 3/8" grub screw. The screw can go in far enough to completely close off the gas port. Ill post another pic to show how small the opening is with it set to barely cycle unsuppressed.
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