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Originally Posted By Pureblood: The serial number makes them rare. Every SKS I own is rare. No it doesnt.. it's one of the most widely produced rifles in the world and very cheaply at that. But keep telling yourself they are rare to make you feel better.. |
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Originally Posted By Wespe: Not necessarily true, an East German or Vietnamese SKS’s are rare in the US, and I’m sure Canada as well although I doubt there’s any at all north of the US. Originally Posted By Wespe: Originally Posted By tarheel7734: They are sks. They are not rare no matter what the serial number is. Not necessarily true, an East German or Vietnamese SKS’s are rare in the US, and I’m sure Canada as well although I doubt there’s any at all north of the US.  Snow Mexico is still getting boatloads of Chinese SKSs.
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Originally Posted By Wespe: Not necessarily true, an East German or Vietnamese SKS’s are rare in the US, and I’m sure Canada as well although I doubt there’s any at all north of the US. It's still an sks.. I have seen so many different sks during my time in the military as well as ak and other com block rifles and MG. Just because a particular country sks or ak are not as common in the US does not make any of them rare. |
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That is a newer Chinese bolt carrier. The serial number ending as 00001 means nothing other than it’s the start of a new batch. The receiver serial number may have between nothing and 4 numbers in front of it. I’d venture to say that it’s a pressed and pinned barrel. In my opinion, the only “rare” Chinese SKS’s are stamped receivers or cast receivers. The only exception in the US would be a papered bring back which would document the history. Also my opinion, the best Chinese SKS’s are the long barrel shanked carbines as they’re Russian made guns. |
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Originally Posted By tarheel7734: It's still an sks.. I have seen so many different sks during my time in the military as well as ak and other com block rifles and MG. Just because a particular country sks or ak are not as common in the US does not make any of them rare. Oh jeez, if you can’t differentiate between military guns in conflict zones and guns in the US or Canada, or just want to be a contrarian, I really don’t know what to say. 
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top one is a Russian arsenal refinished and a really sweet and clean rifle. was new(from arsenal) when i got it . Lower one is a runner up for ugliest configuration ever, but I have 2, one un-fired. Not rare, But I don't think there were that many imported. If anyone knows a lot about them, I'd be interested in the info.  |
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Originally Posted By Wespe: Not necessarily true, an East German or Vietnamese SKS’s are rare in the US, and I’m sure Canada as well although I doubt there’s any at all north of the US. Originally Posted By Wespe: Originally Posted By tarheel7734: They are sks. They are not rare no matter what the serial number is. Not necessarily true, an East German or Vietnamese SKS’s are rare in the US, and I’m sure Canada as well although I doubt there’s any at all north of the US. What about a chinese export made for the People's Republic of Bangladesh? |
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Originally Posted By tarheel7734: It's still an sks.. I have seen so many different sks during my time in the military as well as ak and other com block rifles and MG. Just because a particular country sks or ak are not as common in the US does not make any of them rare. It makes them rarer in the US though, doesn't it? What even is this argument. If you ran into someone with a transferable MG3 at the range (there's only 3 of them in the US), would you tell the guy "Yeah it's not that uncommon there's a bunch of them in Germany" Rarity can be location based it isn't limited to global availability. Owning the first rendition of a firearm would indeed be rare. |
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Originally Posted By Mach: What about a chinese export made for the People's Republic of Bangladesh? When you start getting into military export contracts, the only people that care are hardcore collectors. I wouldn’t be surprised if the Chinese made a run of guns for Pablo Escobar. At the end of the day, there’s only so many engineering variants made. Personally, I’m only concerned with collecting 1 from every country and 1 example of each variant that they produced, with some exceptions. That will never happen as I know I’ll NEVER find things like a 1945 Russian or a Russian DMR. |
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Originally Posted By terry_tr6: top one is a Russian arsenal refinished and a really sweet and clean rifle. was new(from arsenal) when i got it . Lower one is a runner up for ugliest configuration ever, but I have 2, one un-fired. Not rare, But I don't think there were that many imported. If anyone knows a lot about them, I'd be interested in the info. https://i.postimg.cc/y8Ss47zJ/sks-2023-05-15-21-04-54-UTC.jpg It's an sks sporter. Here's mine. 
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Originally Posted By terry_tr6: top one is a Russian arsenal refinished and a really sweet and clean rifle. was new(from arsenal) when i got it . Lower one is a runner up for ugliest configuration ever, but I have 2, one un-fired. Not rare, But I don't think there were that many imported. If anyone knows a lot about them, I'd be interested in the info. https://i.postimg.cc/y8Ss47zJ/sks-2023-05-15-21-04-54-UTC.jpg There were several different versions of the SKS that accepted the AK mags. The SKS-M almost certain they came with the thumbhole stock and shaved off bayo lug, SKS-D had bayonet and regular stock, and the Navy Arms SKS was a paratrooper model with bayonet lug that also had a bolt hold open feature. I got rid of the thumbhole stock on my SKS-m and put the receiver in a synthetic stock with and AR15 style telestock. I also ground off what was left of the bayonet lug for a cleaner look. I have all three versions. It is my understanding that they entered the country as regular SKSs and were converted to accept AK mags by the importer. Or the importer had them converted prior to importation. Meaning there was never a military version of the SKS that utilized an AK magazine, but I like them nonetheless. ETA: photo. can't find a pic of my SKS-M I may have traded it off???? Attached File |
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Originally Posted By DoorKicker: There were several different versions of the SKS that accepted the AK mags. The SKS-M almost certain they came with the thumbhole stock and shaved off bayo lug, SKS-D had bayonet and regular stock, and the Navy Arms SKS was a paratrooper model with bayonet lug that also had a bolt hold open feature. I got rid of the thumbhole stock on my SKS-m and put the receiver in a synthetic stock with and AR15 style telestock. I also ground off what was left of the bayonet lug for a cleaner look. I have all three versions. It is my understanding that they entered the country as regular SKSs and were converted to accept AK mags by the importer. Or the importer had them converted prior to importation. Meaning there was never a military version of the SKS that utilized an AK magazine, but I like them nonetheless. ETA: photo. can't find a pic of my SKS-M I may have traded it off???? https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/443/IMG_4082_jpg-3355461.JPG Originally Posted By DoorKicker: Originally Posted By terry_tr6: top one is a Russian arsenal refinished and a really sweet and clean rifle. was new(from arsenal) when i got it . Lower one is a runner up for ugliest configuration ever, but I have 2, one un-fired. Not rare, But I don't think there were that many imported. If anyone knows a lot about them, I'd be interested in the info. https://i.postimg.cc/y8Ss47zJ/sks-2023-05-15-21-04-54-UTC.jpg There were several different versions of the SKS that accepted the AK mags. The SKS-M almost certain they came with the thumbhole stock and shaved off bayo lug, SKS-D had bayonet and regular stock, and the Navy Arms SKS was a paratrooper model with bayonet lug that also had a bolt hold open feature. I got rid of the thumbhole stock on my SKS-m and put the receiver in a synthetic stock with and AR15 style telestock. I also ground off what was left of the bayonet lug for a cleaner look. I have all three versions. It is my understanding that they entered the country as regular SKSs and were converted to accept AK mags by the importer. Or the importer had them converted prior to importation. Meaning there was never a military version of the SKS that utilized an AK magazine, but I like them nonetheless. ETA: photo. can't find a pic of my SKS-M I may have traded it off???? https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/443/IMG_4082_jpg-3355461.JPG  Type 63: China Makes an AK/SKS Hybrid https://www.forgottenweapons.com/type-63-china-makes-an-ak-sks-hybrid/ The rifle performed well in trials, and as best as I can tell about a million were produced. Mass production quality control was sub=par, though, and rifles in the field failed to live up to the standard of the trials rifles. As a result, the Type 63 was pulled out of service and the Type 56 AK and SKS went back into use until the adoption of the Type 81 year later. The Type 63 was made in two main variations; initially a milled receiver and later a stamped receiver. There were 3 distinct types of magazines made for them, all holding 20 rounds and with a bolt hold-open mechanism. These magazines can be used in AK rifles, but AK magazines do not function in the Type 63.  The Bosnian Full-Auto SKS with AK Mags |
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Originally Posted By DoorKicker: Good to know. You learn something new everyday. Originally Posted By DoorKicker: Good to know. You learn something new everyday. Yeah, seems the Chinese had the tooling right there when we got the SKS craze. |
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Speaking of: Air Commandos: Chinese Special Forces and the Birth of the PLA Air Force (Pt. 1) A hint of the Type 63 that will be covered in a future episode. If you really want to know the founding history of the PLAAF (and North Korea), watch this video. GD thread: https://www.ar15.com/forums/general/SKS-in-the-PLA-Cali-Prof-who-speaks-Chinese-deep-dive-multiple-vids/5-2754066/ |
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you are ridiculous , there most certainly are rare SKS OP , do your research on the SKS forums like SKSFILES.com , these guys here are not going to be objective or they are clueless , i smell jealously in their posts , they hang out in a SKS subforum yet they trash the rifle , that should tell you all you need to know about them |
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you are ridiculous , there most certainly are rare SKS OP , do your research on the SKS forums like SKSFILES.com , these guys here are not going to be objective or they are clueless , i smell jealously in their posts , they hang out in a SKS subforum yet they trash the rifle , that should tell you all you need to know about them |
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Originally Posted By tarheel7734: No it doesnt.. it's one of the most widely produced rifles in the world and very cheaply at that. But keep telling yourself they are rare to make you feel better.. Originally Posted By tarheel7734: Originally Posted By Pureblood: The serial number makes them rare. Every SKS I own is rare. No it doesnt.. it's one of the most widely produced rifles in the world and very cheaply at that. But keep telling yourself they are rare to make you feel better.. Alby says otherwise, Mr know it all. 🤷♂️ |
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Originally Posted By Migmaqman: you are ridiculous , there most certainly are rare SKS OP , do your research on the SKS forums like SKSFILES.com , these guys here are not going to be objective or they are clueless , i smell jealously in their posts , they hang out in a SKS subforum yet they trash the rifle , that should tell you all you need to know about them I think the SKS platform is certainly not rare, but certain SKSs rifles could be. I compare it to the AK magazine. Specifically the metal mags. There are millions and millions of AK magazines in the world. Maybe even more. They all look the same, and for the most part function the same. But when you start looking at who actually made them and then single it down to what plant in that particular country it was made, then some are harder to locate than others Most people are just not that interested enough to decipher all that, and are only interested in the fit and function. I was once this way about AK mags, AK rifles, and SKSs for that matter. I owned them. But never bothered to learn anything about them. As I continue to learn more about all of them, I am amazed by all the subtle differences. While my AK magazines where once all dumped into a single storage tub, now they are sorted and stored in correct country of origin mag pouches. And while I once had 2 AKs and considered my collection complete, now I have dozens. As far as the SKS goes I own several, but I still know very little about them. I learn new things about them all the time. |
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