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Posted: 5/11/2024 5:44:04 PM EDT
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I can only comment on the choice for a rear sight for your sporter. I have a type 52 sks and really had difficulty with the stock sight. I chose the Tech Sight sks sight and very happy I did so. It gives you a lot more distance between the front and rear sights which helps your aiming precision. |
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Originally Posted By Jimbo54: There is a SKS M wood thumbhole stock listed on Gun Broker right now. With tax and shipping it'll be three times the price you paid for your first SKS. Thanks. I was planning on just a regular type SKS stock though. I did check gunbroker and eBay and was surprised at the prices in some of those thumbhole stocks for sure. |
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LuckyShot Good products but may take some time make. Also, may be an issue with 922r but it could already be considered iffy due to the existing Tapco furniture. Copperhead makes pistons and Murry’s Gun can supply the remaining parts for 922r (Trigger, Hammer & Sear). Murray or Kivarri can install those parts as well. Not exactly sure of the parts count for an M/D but if you replaced all above you’d be at 6 US (Stock, Hand guard, Gas Piston, Trigger, Hammer, Sear). The total count of all US Parts would be subtracted from the ATF’s list of designated import parts that can be replaced (14 or so depending on the classification of the parts count of the M/D models). It’s something like less than 10 imported parts after you’ve added your US parts. There are online resources that should be able to define the parts count for various models. You could also possibly modify some import metal mags as AK’s allow the mag to count towards the US Parts (Follower and Floor plate). Zastava USA makes some of these now. Usually SKS 922r only allows for the mag body to be counted as standard SKS 10 rounders don’t have what we normally consider a “Follower” and the really don’t have a floor plate…AK mag SKSs may have exceptions. That said, if you plan on going this route, please do your homework and find out how 922r applies to that particular breed of SKS. |
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Originally Posted By TKLOL: LuckyShot Good products but may take some time make. Also, may be an issue with 922r but it could already be considered iffy due to the existing Tapco furniture. Copperhead makes pistons and Murry’s Gun can supply the remaining parts for 922r (Trigger, Hammer & Sear). Murray or Kivarri can install those parts as well. Not exactly sure of the parts count for an M/D but if you replaced all above you’d be at 6 US (Stock, Hand guard, Gas Piston, Trigger, Hammer, Sear). The total count of all US Parts would be subtracted from the ATF’s list of designated import parts that can be replaced (14 or so depending on the classification of the parts count of the M/D models). It’s something like less than 10 imported parts after you’ve added your US parts. There are online resources that should be able to define the parts count for various models. You could also possibly modify some import metal mags as AK’s allow the mag to count towards the US Parts (Follower and Floor plate). Zastava USA makes some of these now. Usually SKS 922r only allows for the mag body to be counted as standard SKS 10 rounders don’t have what we normally consider a “Follower” and the really don’t have a floor plate…AK mag SKSs may have exceptions. That said, if you plan on going this route, please do your homework and find out how 922r applies to that particular breed of SKS. If it applies at all to individuals instead of manufacturers and importers. |
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Originally Posted By backbencher: If it applies at all to individuals instead of manufacturers and importers. Originally Posted By backbencher: Originally Posted By TKLOL: LuckyShot Good products but may take some time make. Also, may be an issue with 922r but it could already be considered iffy due to the existing Tapco furniture. Copperhead makes pistons and Murry’s Gun can supply the remaining parts for 922r (Trigger, Hammer & Sear). Murray or Kivarri can install those parts as well. Not exactly sure of the parts count for an M/D but if you replaced all above you’d be at 6 US (Stock, Hand guard, Gas Piston, Trigger, Hammer, Sear). The total count of all US Parts would be subtracted from the ATF’s list of designated import parts that can be replaced (14 or so depending on the classification of the parts count of the M/D models). It’s something like less than 10 imported parts after you’ve added your US parts. There are online resources that should be able to define the parts count for various models. You could also possibly modify some import metal mags as AK’s allow the mag to count towards the US Parts (Follower and Floor plate). Zastava USA makes some of these now. Usually SKS 922r only allows for the mag body to be counted as standard SKS 10 rounders don’t have what we normally consider a “Follower” and the really don’t have a floor plate…AK mag SKSs may have exceptions. That said, if you plan on going this route, please do your homework and find out how 922r applies to that particular breed of SKS. If it applies at all to individuals instead of manufacturers and importers. It’s vague for sure but some interpret swapping of the stock to be manufacturing or assembly. There are 14 parts for Norinco SKS He’s currently down to 12 with the Tapco furniture. 1 metal mag with a US follower and floor plate will get that configured to 10 or under. While it may or may not be considered manufacturing or whether or not it would be applied to an individual vs an importer or actual manufacturer…I’d just buy the US modded mag as cheap insurance. Form there he could install the lucky shot stock and still be in compliance (With the US modded mag) or he could restore it with one of the fugly import thumb hole stocks or the others that are more traditional…but now he’d have to use all import mags and ditch the US modded mag. It’s bullshit and shouldn’t apply to individuals but here we are. |
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Originally Posted By ramairthree: I bought an SKS-M back around 1991 or so NIB for I believe 110 bucks. I have the typical cover scope mount that will work off and on but then be way off zero. [ I would like to know what is the current easy button for a good scope mount for this. It can be rear or scout mounted. I also ran into a Sporter being sold. Well, “Sporetr” per the marking it received. It was TapCo’d out. And 500 bucks was probably a waste, but if having an AK mag SKS is cool, then having two is extra cool. I am either going to keep the regular sights or add a better rear sight. Any tips on a better rear sight appreciated. I also want to put a wood stock on it. A source for a stock for an AK mag gun would be appreciated. Also, if there is a spiker stock available for it, any tips on a spiker stock, spiker, and mounting it would be appreciated. Thank you. The best and easiest way to mount a red dot on an SKS is to mount it on the barrel. You can field strip the rifle and never need to remove the sight, and the original sights can be used even with the red dot in place. No permanent alterations to the rifle.    |
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Originally Posted By backbencher: If it applies at all to individuals instead of manufacturers and importers. Originally Posted By backbencher: Originally Posted By TKLOL: LuckyShot Good products but may take some time make. Also, may be an issue with 922r but it could already be considered iffy due to the existing Tapco furniture. Copperhead makes pistons and Murry’s Gun can supply the remaining parts for 922r (Trigger, Hammer & Sear). Murray or Kivarri can install those parts as well. Not exactly sure of the parts count for an M/D but if you replaced all above you’d be at 6 US (Stock, Hand guard, Gas Piston, Trigger, Hammer, Sear). The total count of all US Parts would be subtracted from the ATF’s list of designated import parts that can be replaced (14 or so depending on the classification of the parts count of the M/D models). It’s something like less than 10 imported parts after you’ve added your US parts. There are online resources that should be able to define the parts count for various models. You could also possibly modify some import metal mags as AK’s allow the mag to count towards the US Parts (Follower and Floor plate). Zastava USA makes some of these now. Usually SKS 922r only allows for the mag body to be counted as standard SKS 10 rounders don’t have what we normally consider a “Follower” and the really don’t have a floor plate…AK mag SKSs may have exceptions. That said, if you plan on going this route, please do your homework and find out how 922r applies to that particular breed of SKS. If it applies at all to individuals instead of manufacturers and importers. Thanks, saw this about 2 1/2 weeks ago. Placed an order with them. Have not heard back yet but hopefully will soon. |
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Originally Posted By ramairthree: That damn Bubba got me one more time. It’s bad enough they had the Sporter in that Tapco non folding stock, But after putting it in the new stock, a new sling came. I went to put it on. It’s pretty easy easy putting an SKS sling on. They all pretty much look something like this. https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/uu220/ramairfour/IMG_5566.jpeg?width=1920&height=1080&fit=bounds" target="_blank">https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/uu220/ramairfour/IMG_5566.jpeg?width=1920&height=1080&fit=bounds But then you notice- just like the caricature of a Bubba they were, the damn front sling mount was dremeled off. https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/uu220/ramairfour/IMG_5565.jpeg?width=1920&height=1080&fit=bounds" target="_blank">https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/uu220/ramairfour/IMG_5565.jpeg?width=1920&height=1080&fit=bounds Damn it Bubba! Replacing that is going to be somewhat of a bitch! But it’s doable and while you’re at it you could replace the neutered lug. It’s not the pins that are a pain, it’s that the population of those parts can be difficult with the press fit…that shit is tight. There are screw type contraptions that could be fabricated, kinda like the Toth Tool barrel population equipment for AKs. I just use a 2x4 and pound the shit out of it with a BFH…not great for front sight alignment but I used prince 50’s on my last 2 bubba builds so I didn’t have to worry about that. What I have done in the past for rear sight, stock ferrule, gas block, and the fsb is to use 1” black plumber’s pipe with a 1” copper female adapter. The adapter and the pipe will slide over the barrel and you wack away but in a more directed approach than with a 2x4. The copper won’t damage the metal. The blueing can be protected with some thick leather if you’re worried about the finish and/or cleaned up with cold blue. Numrich or Apex should have an oem gas block with the loop but cast vs milled options will vary. I’d most likely figure a way to use the existing cleaning rod hole to attach a loop of some kind. The stock you got from Lucky is sweet! |
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Originally Posted By TKLOL: Damn it Bubba! Replacing that is going to be somewhat of a bitch! But it’s doable and while you’re at it you could replace the neutered lug. It’s not the pins that are a pain, it’s that the population of those parts can be difficult with the press fit…that shit is tight. There are screw type contraptions that could be fabricated, kinda like the Toth Tool barrel population equipment for AKs. I just use a 2x4 and pound the shit out of it with a BFH…not great for front sight alignment but I used prince 50’s on my last 2 bubba builds so I didn’t have to worry about that. What I have done in the past for rear sight, stock ferrule, gas block, and the fsb is to use 1” black plumber’s pipe with a 1” copper female adapter. The adapter and the pipe will slide over the barrel and you wack away but in a more directed approach than with a 2x4. The copper won’t damage the metal. The blueing can be protected with some thick leather if you’re worried about the finish and/or cleaned up with cold blue. Numrich or Apex should have an oem gas block with the loop but cast vs milled options will vary. I’d most likely figure a way to use the existing cleaning rod hole to attach a loop of some kind. The stock you got from Lucky is sweet! Originally Posted By TKLOL: Originally Posted By ramairthree: That damn Bubba got me one more time. It’s bad enough they had the Sporter in that Tapco non folding stock, But after putting it in the new stock, a new sling came. I went to put it on. It’s pretty easy easy putting an SKS sling on. They all pretty much look something like this. https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/uu220/ramairfour/IMG_5566.jpeg?width=1920&height=1080&fit=bounds" target="_blank">https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/uu220/ramairfour/IMG_5566.jpeg?width=1920&height=1080&fit=bounds But then you notice- just like the caricature of a Bubba they were, the damn front sling mount was dremeled off. https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/uu220/ramairfour/IMG_5565.jpeg?width=1920&height=1080&fit=bounds" target="_blank">https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/uu220/ramairfour/IMG_5565.jpeg?width=1920&height=1080&fit=bounds Damn it Bubba! Replacing that is going to be somewhat of a bitch! But it’s doable and while you’re at it you could replace the neutered lug. It’s not the pins that are a pain, it’s that the population of those parts can be difficult with the press fit…that shit is tight. There are screw type contraptions that could be fabricated, kinda like the Toth Tool barrel population equipment for AKs. I just use a 2x4 and pound the shit out of it with a BFH…not great for front sight alignment but I used prince 50’s on my last 2 bubba builds so I didn’t have to worry about that. What I have done in the past for rear sight, stock ferrule, gas block, and the fsb is to use 1” black plumber’s pipe with a 1” copper female adapter. The adapter and the pipe will slide over the barrel and you wack away but in a more directed approach than with a 2x4. The copper won’t damage the metal. The blueing can be protected with some thick leather if you’re worried about the finish and/or cleaned up with cold blue. Numrich or Apex should have an oem gas block with the loop but cast vs milled options will vary. I’d most likely figure a way to use the existing cleaning rod hole to attach a loop of some kind. The stock you got from Lucky is sweet! Thank you for those company names - just got 3 new bookmarks thanks to you. |
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Originally Posted By backbencher: Thank you for those company names - just got 3 new bookmarks thanks to you. You bet. Those build tools from Toth Tool look pretty legit. There are some good videos on the barrel population tools…easy street and can be done in the kitchen as opposed to a 20 ton press…which, I guess you could set up in the kitchen.  The bolt cutter rivet jaws are legit. I’ve made a pair from a harbor freight bolt cutter and while not as good as the Toth set, the concept is the same and my rivets came out squashed in tight…I did bugger a dome or two (smiley faced) but it’s a great tool for crushing rivets. The Prince 50 front sight is great and what he’s selling now is actually version 2 and is now adjustable. LuckyShot stocks makes a great product and the turn around isn’t that bad considering. Also mentioned earlier is the eBay seller Copperhead that makes US gas pistons and maybe hammers and triggers too but I’ve only bought those from Murray’s Guns. All good stuff and great businesses. |
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