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Originally Posted By AdLucem: It is highly unusual and I'm not certain but I believe it is usually done quickly as all the parties are available and ready for trial... View Quote I think the defense would argue that they were not ready. There was a ton of discovery dumped last minute. But the corrupt judge said keep it moving we need a conviction before the election. |
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Originally Posted By JKH62: Her testimony has zero to do with business records. The judge stated "some of the things she said should not have been said" in front of the jury. You have a law degree and can't see the obvious? How does a jury un-hear something again?? View Quote You have a legal opinion but do you have a law degree yourself? Witnesses often say things they shouldn't and trials are never perfect considering human dynamics.... It takes very substantial errors to result in a mistrial and appeals remain available to a defendant who believes they were aggrieved. Maybe we should wait and see if he is found guilty, No? and... procedurally trumps lawyers should have/could have vigorously objected. To answer your question though the jury will often be instructed to ignore or not consider certain testimony. |
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Originally Posted By AdLucem: She's not a shrinking violet lol and I wasn't in the court room but testimony showsshe was not cowed during cross and that can help or hurt a witness. Not objecting is an attorney failure in that you lose the right to appeal and to break the momentum of testimony (something that Habba also failed to do). Some of her comments were so objectionable that the judge made the objections for trump's lawyers which is very unusual and, I think a poor showing for an otherwise skilled trial attorney. View Quote The testimony isn’t public yet, so it doesn’t show anything. This is your opinion based on biased news reporters. I respect that you have an opinion, but disguising it as fact is disingenuous. As I stated above, I’m pretty confident you didn’t read the transcripts. Your only source is the same as any other person that watches TV. |
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Originally Posted By jos51700: ((Attention Whore) x (Professional Whore))^(presidential exponential) = willing to say anything to get more views and DVD's sold. Sorry, she has a vested financial interest in getting as many eyes on this as possible, whether it's true or not. Could not convict. View Quote Well said and spot on. Thank You |
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Originally Posted By AdLucem: ok bring your confidence to the test... and tell me where I have misstated anything... View Quote Did you read the testimony? “Testimony shows…” The testimony wasn’t even out when you tried to shut down anyone with an opinion. Attached File |
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Her testimony had ZERO to do with the actual crimes charged. No jury instruction can unring that bell. They heard it.
All it does is add further fuel on fire for the appeal for when this jury eventually finds him guilty. |
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Originally Posted By Meathook: I think the defense would argue that they were not ready. There was a ton of discovery dumped last minute. But the corrupt judge said keep it moving we need a conviction before the election. View Quote Late discovery drops are not unusual and a judge moving a case forward is not corrupt. |
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I could care less if he went raw for 3 seconds and punished her furiously with 1 1/2" of superior genetics or not. However his team should have been objecting the hell out of the testimony, but didn't. Hopefully they do not continue as they have.
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Originally Posted By RLR350: The testimony isn’t public yet, so it doesn’t show anything. This is your opinion based on biased news reporters. I respect that you have an opinion, but disguising it as fact is disingenuous. As I stated above, I’m pretty confident you didn’t read the transcripts. Your only source is the same as any other person that watches TV. View Quote I believe you are mistaken.... twice. my opinion is mostly related to objective legal analysis trial testimony here u go.... If you read my earlier post reporters were summarizing testimony as it was occurring. |
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Originally Posted By Meathook: It is a wonder Republicans can't win and accomplish nothing. Even the people here (that aren't commies) are clueless, uninformed and can't agree on anything. View Quote DU is a place for people who can't think through to a correct conclusion. It's a place for Low IQ Left. What's your screen name on DU? |
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It was terrible. The soundtrack they played when she re-enacted sucking dick was totally wrong. It wasn't published until two years after the alleged incident.
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Originally Posted By Bigger_Hammer: https://i.imgur.com/3QiSWES.jpg I'm stuck voting for that piece of shit because my beloved Republican party has become "the Party of Trump". Because a terrible shitty "populist" so called "Republican" is better than any Democrat (to preserve the SCOTUS), I'm voting for Trump in 2024 - but under no illusions he is anything but a piece of shit with a "R" besides his name. Bigger_Hammer View Quote The only thing I would add to your comment is 'with an R beside his name, that was a D just a few years prior'. Two sides of the same coin. None of these effers represent our interests, just their own. |
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Originally Posted By Gorby: I wonder why the religious DJT supporters give him a pass on the adultery thing. View Quote Not a pass - just doesn't mean God can't use him, like King David or Solomon. In addition, this choice is between pedophilia and poor policy or adultery and better policy. Should be a no-brainer, yet those with little brains seem to struggle with it. |
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Originally Posted By CJ7365: And T$ said he didn't have sex with her, fucking lol, lying fucker. Still waiting for Mexico to pay for the wall. View Quote You know she owes Trump a $500k judgment for her actions. She might have a slight bias. We have the issue where 99.44% of her testimony was irrelevant. The bottom line is the judge allowed unnecessary prejudicial testimony intended to smear Trump. NY does not have a justice system. This is political corruption at its worst. |
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Originally Posted By RLR350: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/188107/IMG_2763_jpeg-3208626.JPG View Quote A denial from the actual accuser amongst a sea of false accusations. Some people should be building model airplanes or guns instead of participating in politics. |
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Originally Posted By M4-AK: She described it unbelievably as Rape. She gave a 5 minute Hate Speech as if he captured her and degraded her. Really, really bad acting on her part, IMHO. View Quote Made it all up is more like it. It was a terrible story that sounded like s scene from one of her porno movies that she just inserted Trump into. Disgusting. |
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Originally Posted By Palm: Did I miss read that it was the account who categorized the payment and approve it, not Trump? Anyone who thinks that Trump does his own book keeping is not familiar on how things really work in business. The invoices would have been reviewed by the account, categorized, approved, check written, and possibly submitted to Trump for signing the check if not done so by auto pen. Think Radar O’Riley and the stack of papers to sign. View Quote More like Mel Brooks and Blazing Saddles. hey I didn't get a hrumph out of that guy |
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Originally Posted By Bigger_Hammer: https://i.imgur.com/3QiSWES.jpg I'm stuck voting for that piece of shit because my beloved Republican party has become "the Party of Trump". Because a terrible shitty "populist" so called "Republican" is better than any Democrat (to preserve the SCOTUS), I'm voting for Trump in 2024 - but under no illusions he is anything but a piece of shit with a "R" besides his name. Bigger_Hammer View Quote This is still a vast improvement over the do-nothing RHINO Republican wing of the Uniparty. |
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It's a strange, strange world we live in, Master Jack
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Originally Posted By AdLucem: I believe you are mistaken.... twice. my opinion is mostly related to objective legal analysis trial testimony here u go.... If you read my earlier post reporters were summarizing testimony as it was occurring. View Quote Did you read the testimony? A simple yes or no. If you did read it, where did you read it? ETA: I’ll make it easy for you. You didn’t read it. Your objective legal analysis is based on summaries from biased reporters. That seems pretty subjective. The last transcript available was for May 6, the day before Daniels testified. There is no way you read it on the web site you have posted twice now. Attached File |
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Originally Posted By Rick-OShay: This is still a vast improvement over the do-nothing RHINO Republican wing of the Uniparty. View Quote I saw an interview with Thomas Massie the other day in which he declared the true RINOs were the members of the Freedom Caucus Based on the most recent series of votes I tend to agree with him, the real republicans in good standing are the diet coke variant of the Democraftic Party. |
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In the real world off-campus, good marksmanship trumps good will.
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Originally Posted By TxRabbitBane: He can’t keep a marriage vow, yet you think he can keep a vow to uphold the constitution? Since when did mean tweets equate to leadership ability? I guess there really is a sucker born every minute… View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By TxRabbitBane: Originally Posted By FFBK: Originally Posted By Gorby: I wonder why the religious DJT supporters give him a pass on the adultery thing. Mostly because our religion is built on forgiveness. We also recognize that leadership skills don’t have a lot to do with his sex life. I have worked for some great fire captains/chiefs that are multiple marriages deep. I still trust their experience and decision making when it counts. He can’t keep a marriage vow, yet you think he can keep a vow to uphold the constitution? Since when did mean tweets equate to leadership ability? I guess there really is a sucker born every minute… Two choices in November. Pick the one with a better track record on the constitution, however crummy it may be. It’s that simple. |
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Originally Posted By RLR350: Did you read the testimony? A simple yes or no. If you did read it, where did you read it? ETA: I’ll make it easy for you. You didn’t read it. Your objective legal analysis is based on summaries from biased reporters. That seems pretty subjective. The last transcript available was for May 6, the day before Daniels testified. There is no way you read it on the web site you have posted twice now. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/188107/IMG_2766_jpeg-3208838.JPG View Quote Silly question the official daily transcripts were not yet available but there were real time feeds on twitter where reporters were summarizing actual testimony court transcripts were unavailable yesterday.... if there is a delay in official court transcripts so be it, but the official transcripts will stand for themselves for all who are suggesting anything was or was not said. Perhaps it was lost on you but I was the one who pointed them out for everyone who cares... and again you are free to show me where I mistated any testimony, the very few times I referenced it.... |
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Originally Posted By TxRabbitBane: He can’t keep a marriage vow, yet you think he can keep a vow to uphold the constitution? Since when did mean tweets equate to leadership ability? I guess there really is a sucker born every minute… View Quote The President doesn't vow to uphold the constitution. Who's the sucker now? |
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Originally posted by System Message: Please use another website for your asshole-picture swapping
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From Inner City Press on X he is live tweeting it.
Prosecutor: Did you have sex with him on the bed? Stormy Daniels: Missionary- Objection Justice Merchan: Sustained. Daniels: I was staring at the ceiling wishing I was somewhere else Justice Merchan: Sustained. Prosecutor: Was he wearing a condom? Daniels: No Daniels: He said, That was great, we should get together again soon, honey bunch Prosecutor: What did you say? Daniels: Nothing. He didn't even give me his cell phone number. Prosecutor: Did he express concern about his wife finding out? Daniels: No View Quote So we are to believe she laid there like a dead fish and Trump said that was great we should do it again soon? Honey Bunch? How about the comment about her feeling drugged and the one where she said Trump said "you look like my daughter blonde and beautiful" She is disgusting. The whole thing sounds made up. None of it has to do with business records and accounting. ETA: The judge is corrupt. None of this should be being discussed it isn't relevant. |
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Originally Posted By perfectsilence: Two choices in November. Pick the one with a better track record on the constitution, however crummy it may be. It’s that simple. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By perfectsilence: Originally Posted By TxRabbitBane: Originally Posted By FFBK: Originally Posted By Gorby: I wonder why the religious DJT supporters give him a pass on the adultery thing. Mostly because our religion is built on forgiveness. We also recognize that leadership skills don’t have a lot to do with his sex life. I have worked for some great fire captains/chiefs that are multiple marriages deep. I still trust their experience and decision making when it counts. He can’t keep a marriage vow, yet you think he can keep a vow to uphold the constitution? Since when did mean tweets equate to leadership ability? I guess there really is a sucker born every minute… Two choices in November. Pick the one with a better track record on the constitution, however crummy it may be. It’s that simple. They have an equally shitty record on the constitution. That’s the problem. They both want gun control, for example. |
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Not fly enough to be halal....
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Originally Posted By Meathook: From Inner City Press on X he is live tweeting it. So we are to believe she laid there like a dead fish and Trump said that was great we should do it again soon? Honey Bunch? The comment about her feeling drugged an the one where she said Trump said "you look like my daughter blonde and beautiful" She is disgusting. The whole thing sounds made up. None of it has to do with business records and accounting. View Quote Words that can be used for MSNBC sound bites . Said in official testimony and quotable as needed . |
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Originally Posted By AdLucem: I wasn't in the courtroom, what were you watching? and... Not really disputing what she said... but, as you yourself say she very well may have elicited sympathy from the jury. Many witnesses express hostility towards defendants without losing, and often gaining, credibility. If trump's legal team thought she helped him they would not have demanded a mistrial. A mistrial, as I said earlier, would result in trump going back to square 1 and starting a trial anew.... so clearly they thought her testimony could be considered credible by the jury. The greatest thing trump has going for him is that this is, in my view, a very very weak case..... which he should want to bring to a conclusion and not undergo a new 4-5 week trial. View Quote You act as though they are not just going to start a new one as soon as this one is over. |
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Originally Posted By RLR350: Did you read the testimony? A simple yes or no. If you did read it, where did you read it? ETA: I’ll make it easy for you. You didn’t read it. Your objective legal analysis is based on summaries from biased reporters. That seems pretty subjective. The last transcript available was for May 6, the day before Daniels testified. There is no way you read it on the web site you have posted twice now. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/188107/IMG_2766_jpeg-3208838.JPG View Quote Since when was "Centre" used in American language ??? |
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Originally Posted By AdLucem: Silly question the official daily transcripts were not yet available but there were real time feeds on twitter where reporters were summarizing actual testimony court transcripts were unavailable yesterday.... if there is a delay in official court transcripts so be it, but the official transcripts will stand for themselves for all who are suggesting anything was or was not said. Perhaps it was lost on you but I was the one who pointed them out for everyone who cares... and again you are free to show me where I mistated any testimony, the very few times I referenced it.... View Quote Nothing is lost on me. You can dance around it all you want, but you got caught. Your objective legal analysis is nothing more than biased opinion. The transcripts you referenced as one of your sources don’t exist. You can’t change that. The implication that you read them is false. |
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Originally Posted By Dagger41: Since when was "Centre" used in American language ??? View Quote I had to figure out what that meant. I don’t know, but I entered 100 Centre on maps and it seems to be pretty common in the NE. I put that in for the date, May 6, which was Monday. It’s the last transcript available. Daniels testified on the 7th. Any reference made to reading the transcripts of Daniels testimony is simply false. |
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Originally Posted By panzersergeant: You act as though they are not just going to start a new one as soon as this one is over. View Quote I am not sure what you mean. If the jury renders a not guilty verdict that will be the conclusion of the case there will be no reason to appeal and there is no second chance by the prosecution for the same crime (that's double jeopardy). Only if he is found guilty and he is then successful with an appeal of that guilty verdict to the appellate court. Trump needs to show that there were severe errors, insufficient evidence etc... but those errors need to be preserved during the trial by objections or trump has to show there was ineffective assistance of counsel. A successful appeal doesn't mean he's innocent but that there must be a new trial... essentially a do over. |
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We're living in an episode of Who's Line is it Anyway.
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How the Trump hush money case compares to the John Edwards indictment Edwards was accused of soliciting nearly $1 million to hide an affair. With a grand jury weighing possible charges against former President Donald Trump, the case is drawing comparisons to the indictment of a rising Democratic star over a decade ago that also involved hush money accusations. In 2011, John Edwards, a former senator from North Carolina and two-time presidential candidate, was charged in an alleged plot to violate campaign finance laws during his 2008 bid for the White House. Federal prosecutors accused Edwards of soliciting nearly $1 million from wealthy donors to hide his affair with videographer Rielle Hunter -- and that he was the father of their baby -- to prevent damage to his reputation as a family man during the campaign. Edwards' defense team argued the donations were personal gifts from friends, not campaign contributions, and were intended only to hide the affair from his cancer-stricken wife, not voters. A North Carolina jury found Edwards not guilty of one count of receiving illegal campaign donations but deadlocked on five other charges, leading to a mistrial. The Justice Department ultimately dropped the charges. View Quote Difference is trumps on trial for bookkeeping error. Please Trump did not use campaign funds. This trial is nothing but election interference. |
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Originally Posted By AdLucem: I am not sure what you mean. If the jury renders a not guilty verdict that will be the conclusion of the case there will be no reason to appeal and there is no second chance by the prosecution for the same crime (that's double jeopardy). Only if he is found guilty and he is then successful with an appeal of that guilty verdict to the appellate court. Trump needs to show that there were severe errors, insufficient evidence etc... but those errors need to be preserved during the trial by objections or trump has to show there was ineffective assistance of counsel. A successful appeal doesn't mean he's innocent but that there must be a new trial... essentially a do over. View Quote I should have clarified my comment... the left will just make up some more bullshit charges to take him to court on. And if he's convicted in this particular non-case it will most definitely be overturned on appeal. |
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Originally Posted By RLR350: Nothing is lost on me. You can dance around it all you want, but you got caught. Your objective legal analysis is nothing more than biased opinion. The transcripts you referenced as one of your sources don’t exist. You can’t change that. The implication that you read them is false. View Quote "Caught?" did you not read what I said? I'll refresh your memory.... "First: There were reporters in and out of the courtroom and the overflow room that were summarizing the actual trial testimony so you could get it pretty much unfiltered and not through the lens of a commentator.... it wasn't actual transcript but the next best thing to video. Second: the official transcripts are published daily :New York Courts to Publish Daily Transcripts of Trump Trial link within If any of our resident legal scholars actually cares what was said, or wishes to see for themselves" I told you where I got my info (First) and then... where the NY State Court system is publishing the official transcripts.... if you actually care what was said (Second). You suggested I hadn't read the transcripts and I suggested you show where I misstated anything... The invitation still stands BTW If they are not available at the crt link, you can sign up for updates with the Post which is regularly downloading these images, combining them into searchable PDFs and linking to them https://www.washingtonpost.com/newsletters/the-trump-trials/?itid=lk_inline_manual_5 or here https://static01.nyt.com/newsgraphics/documenttools/6df39b47cb7d8788/5d31eb8c-full.pdf So there is no further misunderstanding... the most recent transcript is 5-6.... seek and you shall find. |
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I'm leaning towards Trump.on this one. Stormy looks like a woman you just want to fuck. I do not blame Trump for that. With that said, sticking it in that hole is seriously unwise for so many reasons.
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