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Posted: 9/29/2016 1:05:01 PM EDT
I don't see how it can work since both the west and east coast are dominated by leftists.
At this point I don't see how this country can move forward with being so divided. One side wants socialism and SJWerism and nothing will change their mind. They are becoming increasingly violent that anyone with a dissenting opinion gets physically mobbed and beaten. And our current government supports and protects them. The other half want freedom and this country to be how it intended. How do we do it? |
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If the geography "worked" I think it would have happened a decade or so ago.
More than anything, it's urban vs non-urban. |
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I used to joke that the border would be I-10. But not now that I live 75 miles northwest of Austin. We may have to gerrymander things a little.
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Give the leftists the North East down to northern Virginia, a few of the Great Lakes states and the West Coast from the Pacific to 50 miles in from the ocean. Retake the West Coast by force first.
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I don't see how it can work since both the west and east coast are dominated by leftists. At this point I don't see how this country can move forward with being so divided. One side wants socialism and SJWerism and nothing will change their mind. They are becoming increasingly violent that anyone with a dissenting opinion gets physically mobbed and beaten. And our current government supports and protects them. The other half want freedom and this country to be how it intended. How do we do it? View Quote Think horizontal instead of vertical. The south shall rise again. |
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Man, from Trump is going to save us to Balkanization is the only option in under a week.
Are you pregnant, Gym? |
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I don't see how it can work since both the west and east coast are dominated by leftists. At this point I don't see how this country can move forward with being so divided. One side wants socialism and SJWerism and nothing will change their mind. They are becoming increasingly violent that anyone with a dissenting opinion gets physically mobbed and beaten. And our current government supports and protects them. The other half want freedom and this country to be how it intended. How do we do it? View Quote lol, if the country is partitioning itself off then this is after we've done some serious culling of the heard. The US won't balkanize without a massive amount of fighting. |
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It depends on who occupies what at the end of the war, I guess.
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The Republic of TexArkLaMiss, with an immediate pogrom to expel undesirables.
ETA: Oklahoma can come too. God-Emperor TxRabbitBane is benevolent like that. |
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Look at the same map by Districts won by Romney and you find that it's not so clear cut. You have states which are almost entirely red that went blue. |
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I don't see how it can work since both the west and east coast are dominated by leftists. At this point I don't see how this country can move forward with being so divided. One side wants socialism and SJWerism and nothing will change their mind. They are becoming increasingly violent that anyone with a dissenting opinion gets physically mobbed and beaten. And our current government supports and protects them. The other half want freedom and this country to be how it intended. How do we do it? View Quote it it splits, it will not be peacefully. so occupied and held territory would have much to do with how it is split out. it won't be pleasant, and I hope I'm not around when it happens. |
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By the time this happens, the entire country will be solid blue, and guns would be looooong gone.
It's for the children you racist |
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The Balkanization would pretty much be Mexico taking CA up to Los Angeles (maybe) and the southern parts of the border states. Except TX, they'll jump ship in toto and wipe out Austin and become the new Serbia.
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Quoted: The other half want freedom and this country to be how it intended. View Quote You mean the side who cares who you fuck and wants to run the country based on religion? There are way more than 2 sides to this coin. I want nothing to do with either of the 2 sides you refer to, as neither supports freedom. |
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We should go the communist way and divide along the 37th parallel.
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You mean the side who cares who you fuck and wants to run the country based on religion? There are way more than 2 sides to this coin. I want nothing to do with either of the 2 sides you refer to, as neither supports freedom. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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The other half want freedom and this country to be how it intended. You mean the side who cares who you fuck and wants to run the country based on religion? There are way more than 2 sides to this coin. I want nothing to do with either of the 2 sides you refer to, as neither supports freedom. I've never met a Republican that truly believes that. I have met leftists that do: Sharia, and cultural marxism. |
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You mean the side who cares who you fuck and wants to run the country based on religion? There are way more than 2 sides to this coin. I want nothing to do with either of the 2 sides you refer to, as neither supports freedom. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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The other half want freedom and this country to be how it intended. You mean the side who cares who you fuck and wants to run the country based on religion? There are way more than 2 sides to this coin. I want nothing to do with either of the 2 sides you refer to, as neither supports freedom. Yeah I don't think those things are very popular on the right anymore. You could always move to Canada I hear they're pretty nice. |
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Lets see - the last time we did this (that I noticed)
The US is now 50 individual countries, which states go to war with each other & over what? My responses were: Alabama vs. Philadelphia and Pittsburgh. Pittsburgh clues in real quick and joins the million deer hunters in pushing the residents of Philly into the Schuylkill. Then they blow the bridges over the Delaware and put tollbooths on all of the highways on the Delaware, Maryland, and Ohio borders. They choke off trade to NY, NJ, and New England. They then form a strategic alliance with Virginia and WV to starve MD into submission. View Quote Which was very well received, and Just found a post I did when some derpy Russian guy proclaimed the coming end of the US and the rise of Russia:
He [derpy Russian guy] is making a classic mistake - projecting his own subconscious fears and bias onto others. The map he draws makes sense only if you have an imperialist viewpoint. The Russians have historically feared invasion and conquer, and for good reason. Their deepest fear is other countries gobbling up parts of them, and they've always had an inferiority complex about it, because they were never able to play in the same league as the big colonial powers. They are bitter about having given Alaska to the US for a pittance, but their claim was never very solid - they explored it and took resources from it (mainly furs) but never colonized it.
If you look at it from the viewpoint of American history, the map would be wildly different. Mexico has a far better historical claim to, and cultural influence on, California than China. Likewise, anyone who can think one second past the shape of a foreign conquest would realize that KY, TN, NC, and SC wouldn't be caught dead in a grouping with NY and New England. Likewise the Mountain West with the Industrial Midwest - they have nothing in common except their proximity to the Canadian border. And I can just picture Mexico trying to force MS and AL to use the peso. Here's my breakdown for the collapse of the US: - The New England states form a tight compact and call themselves...New England. Connecticut is a toss-up - the whole state is a suburb of either NY or Boston. - New York goes it alone. Hell, they barely get along with any other states now, and their ego's are big enough to try it. For that matter, NYC might try to declare itself a city-state. That will work until they need to conquer Staten Island so they can throw away their trash, and then realize that they don't have any guns. - PA/NJ/DE: medium tight alliance. The big advantage is that ground transport can't get to NY or NE without going through one of those 3 states. Govern independently, share border controls, and get fat off the tolls. Harrisburg tells Phila to get with the program or they'll send a million men with deer rifles to push them into the Schuylkill. They'll comply - that river is nasty. - Alternately, PA/NJ/MD with Delaware and the rest of the Eastern Shore seceding to become the Joint Principality of Credit Cards and Chickens - CCC for short. - VA - this is tricky I think VA will split up unto Northern VA, which will join with MD and DC to form The Alliance of Whiny Bitches (TAWB), with southern VA joining the Confederacy. - The Confederacy. Well, DUH!. I see FL breaking apart, the Panhandle staying with the Confederacy and the rest of the state joining Cuba. Or NY - hard to tell which exiles have more pull. - The Rust Belt - OH, IN, IL, MI, WI - will stick together and slowly deteriorate until they realize that bitching about foreign trade to the Federal Government is a double loser - no Feds, and the foreigners are only 50 miles away. - Mountain West - very loose confederation, with the guiding motto "Every Man has a Manifesto". They meet once every 6 years to declare that they are still independent and no, they are still not accepting immigrants from the West Coast. - Texas: Go it alone. I mean, they were an independent nation already - it can't be that hard to pick up where they left off. OK will be the sidekick/protectorate. - The Appalachian states: WV, KY, TN, AR. They will hang tight because they are poor as dirt, and have few resources. Their main export will be soldiers (think Dickson's Dorsai). Will likely maintain close relationships with PA, due to similar topography and culture in the center of the state; will be the most highly armed political unit per capita EVER. - Midwest farm states: loose collective administered jointly by Monsanto and ADM. Their motto: "You send tractors and fuel, we'll send food" - Utah: I'm surprised the Mormons haven't declared independence already. - Nevada: Independent, and they will have no enemies. Their motto: "Blackjack, Hookers, and the Hoover Dam" - Arizona and NM: "How many peso's for the chalupa?" - Washington and Oregon: They'll have to stick together, because no one else wants them. - Alaska: Independent, until the Russians decide they want the oil. Then Palin will be able to see Russia in her mirror. - Hawaii: See comments on Texas. - And finally, CA. Split into 3: Northern, Central, and Southern. Northern joins up with WA and OR to form the Alliance of Hippie Nations. Central creates a loose alliance with the Midwest, supplying produce in return for migrant laborers and guns for their southern border (they don't worry about the North - is it even possible to form an army from stoners, much less an invasion?). And Southern? Hollywood will be like Berlin, holding out against takeover by Mexico, being supplied by airlifts bringing in food and leaving with DVD's. San Diego will be OK too - the USN will relocate there (better climate than Hampton Roads) and will control everything within radius of 16" guns. View Quote View Quote Which generated more controversy, mainly due to some butthurt over my characterization of Appalachia. |
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If something like this were to happen, lets be honest,, the repub's have more guns, unless the democrats held a majority of the military, we could probably make our own lines and kick people out where we want.
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It's not going to happen, but even if it did it wouldn't look exactly like that. People would move, get forced out, or killed etc etc |
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Needs more resolution; use the county map.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/09/2008_election_reults_county_by_county.png (ok so its the 2008 map, close enough) |
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Lets wall of the northeast and drop off all the SJW types across the border. we take everything else.
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It's covered in a Kindle novel I just read "Peoples Republic" by Kurt Schlichter. Basically California and The East Coast break away and become the Liberal shitholes run by former stateswoman Hillary and President DiBlasio.
We get everything in between with the new White House in Dallas. Much prosperity. No one can be a citizen without military service. Illegals not allowed |
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Needs more resolution; use the county map. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/09/2008_election_reults_county_by_county.png (ok so its the 2008 map, close enough) View Quote Even the county map doesn't tell the story accurately. How many of those counties were won by 51%, or 60% of the vote? A lot of them. |
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I don't see how it can work since both the west and east coast are dominated by leftists. At this point I don't see how this country can move forward with being so divided. One side wants socialism and SJWerism and nothing will change their mind. They are becoming increasingly violent that anyone with a dissenting opinion gets physically mobbed and beaten. And our current government supports and protects them. The other half want freedom and this country to be how it intended. How do we do it? View Quote Texas. Then everyone else figures out their borders. |
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The other half want freedom and this country to be how it intended. You mean the side who cares who you fuck and wants to run the country based on religion? There are way more than 2 sides to this coin. I want nothing to do with either of the 2 sides you refer to, as neither supports freedom. http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/yes-rudy1.gif Sorry , I know fantasy is fun, but you won't run a free country without Christian virtue. |
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I could see it broken into three.. the north East, The west coast and then the rest of us.
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Quoted: I've never met a Republican that truly believes that. I have met leftists that do: Sharia, and cultural marxism. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: The other half want freedom and this country to be how it intended. You mean the side who cares who you fuck and wants to run the country based on religion? There are way more than 2 sides to this coin. I want nothing to do with either of the 2 sides you refer to, as neither supports freedom. I've never met a Republican that truly believes that. I have met leftists that do: Sharia, and cultural marxism. |
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The Republic of TexArkLaMiss, with an immediate pogrom to expel undesirables. ETA: Oklahoma can come too. God-Emperor TxRabbitBane is benevolent like that. View Quote You won't have to lift a finger to expel the undesirables. Just shut off the welfare, and they will move out in droves. |
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If the US were to Balkanize (and at this point I'm in favor of it) I see it breaking up into a number of countries. We no longer have a unifying national culture. Everything is so different.
We're in a state of tribalism/clanism. With so many different ways that folks associate with their "tribe/clan". You have it based on religion, language, ethnicity, political beliefs, geographical, regional cultural, etc.... I see the US breaking up into a number of different countries and I see Statez breaking up also. North FL and the Panhandle have nothing in common with South Florida for example. California is a complete basket case of multiple personalities. Virginia has nothing in common with NOVA. Etc, etc.... The Balkanization of the US will be bloodly, violent, and in the end it will result in something that has no connection to the past. I also see foreign powers becoming involved in certain regions and certain groups of people reaching out to others. Lastly, there will be massive population shifts and migrations. This would be more of a mixture between the breakup of the USSR and Yugoslavia with the partition of India and Pakistan. |
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Heyheyhey. Dont forget Alabama we are part of the Gulf Coast too.
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https://s4.postimg.org/hkvypyh6j/usa_Relief_Map_all_100pct.jpg https://s21.postimg.org/kcfo5fnqd/westwardexp_map_rivers.jpg https://s21.postimg.org/ebsq87vud/2000px_2012_Presidential_Election_by_County_svg.png These three maps don't line up very much. Without shoving populations around it'll be hard to establish stable defensible borders anywhere. Probably the only way to do it would be in the San Joaquin Valley + coastline on the west coast, and everything east of the Appalachians, south of Canada, and north of the Savannah River (or however far north you could shove them). That still means significant displacement of populations, in Rust Belt areas especially. EDIT: Arfcom ate my thumbnails. |
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