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Posted: 9/3/2021 12:55:48 PM EDT
[#1]
I for sure would be interested.
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Posted: 9/3/2021 12:58:09 PM EDT
[#2]
And sorry, not sorry for responding to Lug's blast text. You're welcome for my response.
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Posted: 9/3/2021 12:59:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: And sorry, not sorry for responding to Lug's blast text. You're welcome for my response.   |
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Posted: 9/3/2021 1:02:29 PM EDT
[#4]
Two days, $450, for a level 1 class is too much in my opinion.
Maybe a progressive class that escalates and builds on previously taught concepts. Start level 1, but expand into intermediate and advanced concepts if the team is ready. By the start of the 2nd day we should be rappelling from rooftops, shooting from moving vehicles, and dodging live fire like Neo. But yeah, for serious, 2 days of beginner stuff is a no from me. Maybe 1 day carbine, one day pistol with an opportunity to do some combination shooting at the end. But again, escalate the instruction as the class learns. Now maybe I'm way off on what I think level 1/beginner means. Maybe TJ can put together an agenda with instruction topics so we really know what to expect. Those of you that participated in the classes at b tactical a few years back should be familiar. Tank started with very basic instruction to get everybody warmed up and learned where everyone's skill level was at. Once everyone got settled in the instruction ramped up and things got more challenging. ETA not a knock on what's been proposed. Just want it be beneficial and worthwhile. With today's ammo situation, 2 days of blasting is not what it used to be. $450 is a lot of money to some of us. |
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Posted: 9/3/2021 1:02:46 PM EDT
[#5]
I’m interested
But I’m also a poor college student. I’ll have to see If I for sure have a good paying internship next summer I’m down. |
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Posted: 9/3/2021 1:04:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Two days, $450, for a level 1 class is too much in my opinion. Maybe a progressive class that escalates and builds on previously taught concepts. Start level 1, but expand into intermediate and advanced concepts if the team is ready. By the start of the 2nd day we should be rappelling from rooftops, shooting from moving vehicles, and dodging live fire like Neo. But yeah, for serious, 2 days of beginner stuff is a no from me. Maybe 1 day carbine, one day pistol with an opportunity to do some combination shooting at the end. But again, escalate the instruction as the class learns. Now maybe I'm way off on what I think level 1/beginner means. Maybe TJ can put together an agenda with instruction topics so we really know what to expect. Those of you that participated in the classes at b tactical a few years back should be familiar. Tank started with very basic instruction to get everybody warmed up and learned where everyone's skill level was at. Once everyone got settled in the instruction ramped up and things got more challenging.  |
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Posted: 9/3/2021 1:04:55 PM EDT
[#7]
Does Navy Seal need more training?
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Posted: 9/3/2021 1:11:56 PM EDT
[#8]
Balls being busted..................................CHECK
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Posted: 9/3/2021 1:33:31 PM EDT
[#9]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Balls being busted..................................CHECK I took several classes--both rifles and handguns--from TV. So I'd skip level 1, for now. I do think it's a good idea for members who don't have formal training, yet. |
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Posted: 9/3/2021 1:37:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I took several classes--both rifles and handguns--from TV. So I'd skip level 1, for now. I do think it's a good idea for members who don't have formal training, yet. Never been there, but by all accounts their training is awesome. |
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Posted: 9/3/2021 1:40:17 PM EDT
[#11]
Quote HistoryQuoted: And sorry, not sorry for responding to Lug's blast text. You're welcome for my response. As long as they don't have any hog shaped targets you should be fine  
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Posted: 9/3/2021 1:46:39 PM EDT
[#12]
Quote HistoryQuoted: As long as they don't have any hog shaped targets you should be fine Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: And sorry, not sorry for responding to Lug's blast text. You're welcome for my response. As long as they don't have any hog shaped targets you should be fine 
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Posted: 9/3/2021 1:51:13 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/3/2021 1:54:12 PM EDT
[#14]
I'm in. I have taken almost every class offered at TV. I usually take Carbine I once a year to keep myself tuned up. TJ quickly assesses the level that class is at and adapts for higher or lower skill sets.
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Posted: 9/3/2021 1:58:00 PM EDT
[#15]
1200rds of ammo is worth more than the class... ouch these days.
I'm a maybe, even have Hilton points so staying in Waco wouldn't cost more on top or have to make the drive 2x a day as scooting down 35W/35 ain't no picnic |
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Posted: 9/3/2021 1:58:06 PM EDT
[#16]
I'm interested in this, even though i have already done level 2 carbine at TV.
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Posted: 9/3/2021 1:59:46 PM EDT
[#17]
Quote HistoryQuote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: And sorry, not sorry for responding to Lug's blast text. You're welcome for my response. As long as they don't have any hog shaped targets you should be fine /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/2czrhbk-8.jpg "It was right here!!!!" |
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Posted: 9/3/2021 2:10:42 PM EDT
[#18]
Quote HistoryQuoted: "It was right here!!!!" Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: And sorry, not sorry for responding to Lug's blast text. You're welcome for my response. As long as they don't have any hog shaped targets you should be fine  /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/2czrhbk-8.jpg "It was right here!!!!" It was till it wasn't, damnit. [img]/images/smilies/anim_lol.gif" /> |
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Posted: 9/3/2021 2:29:49 PM EDT
[#19]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm in. I have taken almost every class offered at TV. I usually take Carbine I once a year to keep myself tuned up. TJ quickly assesses the level that class is at and adapts for higher or lower skill sets. Pretty much this. If he sees you can move onto more advanced stuff you will. I wouldn’t mind taking carbine 1 again. Last time was middle of summer. So a cooler weather class would be nice. |
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Posted: 9/3/2021 2:36:09 PM EDT
[#20]
Interested.
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Posted: 9/3/2021 2:48:34 PM EDT
[#21]
I don't suppose you could see if we could do it with 22lr instead?
that much 223 and 45 isn't going to be replaceable right now. and mechanics are the same I think either way. |
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Posted: 9/3/2021 3:07:52 PM EDT
[#22]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't suppose you could see if we could do it with 22lr instead? that much 223 and 45 isn't going to be replaceable right now. and mechanics are the same I think either way. |
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Posted: 9/3/2021 3:25:49 PM EDT
[#23]
I'm in because I always need training, but like JoeMal said, it would be great if some pistol could be incorporated. I suck at long guns and short guns equally. I can sell a cow or goat between now and then to pay for ammo.
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Posted: 9/3/2021 3:50:46 PM EDT
[#24]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm in because I always need training, but like JoeMal said, it would be great if some pistol could be incorporated. I suck at long guns and short guns equally. I can sell a cow or goat between now and then to pay for ammo. |
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Posted: 9/3/2021 3:52:03 PM EDT
[#25]
I'd love to, but would either have to reschedule drill or give up working a gun show, and w/ ammo @ $.50/rnd, pistol & rifle, we're talking $1100 before gas and ramen. I posted I'm interested, but then scrolled down to the ammo requirements - very doubtful I could swing that by spring.
Would be a lot of fun, and helpful, but btwn giving up income to go & $1100 in fees & ammo, I don't see it. |
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Posted: 9/3/2021 6:19:13 PM EDT
[#26]
@Lug1 did you ask TJ about some night shooting after the class?
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Posted: 9/3/2021 6:20:46 PM EDT
[#27]
Quote HistoryQuoted: @Lug1 did you ask TJ about some night shooting after the class? |
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Posted: 9/3/2021 6:27:42 PM EDT
[#28]
My wife and I would attend.
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Posted: 9/3/2021 6:30:04 PM EDT
[#29]
Consider me 90% in with a +1.
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Posted: 9/3/2021 9:42:18 PM EDT
[#30]
I voted maybe. I should be at level 87 now but haven’t shot much the last few years. I miss the open shoots at TV.
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Posted: 9/3/2021 9:49:22 PM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I am sorry. This is no affront to anyone. I don't see easy ways around the situation. We live in a suck world right now. no I agree, it won't get better. figured it couldn't hurt to ask. as 3 bricks of 22 would be easier to live with than that much 223 and 45. |
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Posted: 9/3/2021 9:53:00 PM EDT
[#32]
As with most classes the round count is a best case scenario, as in every student is spun up and a killer/shooter.
Most times it’s several hundred rounds lower based off my experience. Everyone wants to be a gunfighter until it’s time to learn to be a gunfighter. |
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Posted: 9/3/2021 10:08:52 PM EDT
[#33]
I'm interested
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Posted: 9/3/2021 10:59:28 PM EDT
[#34]
Interested but have a baby due mid-March. So the wife unit will probably say no
Shot at TV several times. See avatar <<<< |
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Posted: 9/4/2021 1:21:20 AM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm interested But I'm also a poor college student. I'll have to see If I for sure have a good paying internship next summer I'm down. |
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Posted: 9/4/2021 10:57:23 AM EDT
[#36]
Yes +1 she and I attended a few years back and had a good time.
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Posted: 9/4/2021 6:40:58 PM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Hey kid can you make the round count? I might sponsor you I still need a 5.56 AR upper, I am planning on building one but I can only buy gun stuff slowly and budget it out. Past year has been focused on handgun stuff for LTC and all that. so unless I buy a lot of expensive Grendel ammo I definitely wont make round count. I think I have about 350rnds of 6.5G steel case plus like 700 rounds of brass cased grendel stuff. I have been slowly acquiring parts for a 5.56 upper. I have a BCG. |
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Posted: 9/4/2021 7:10:54 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I still need a 5.56 AR upper, I am planning on building one but I can only buy gun stuff slowly and budget it out. Past year has been focused on handgun stuff for LTC and all that. so unless I buy a lot of expensive Grendel ammo I definitely wont make round count. I think I have about 350rnds of 6.5G steel case plus like 700 rounds of brass cased grendel stuff. I have been slowly acquiring parts for a 5.56 upper. I have a BCG. I can bring you a gun, upper, etc. You gotta come with some boolits. ETA: Optic and magpul sling on gun. |
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Posted: 9/4/2021 7:12:19 PM EDT
[#39]
I might be interested, never done a training class before. Been wanting to do a basic carbine class and more importantly would like to attend a good stop the bleed/first aid class as well.
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Posted: 9/4/2021 7:21:20 PM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Bro, I can bring you a gun, upper, etc. You gotta come with some boolits. ETA: Optic and magpul sling on gun. I have a spare rifle with optic etc you can use also. Put the ammo together and we can fill in the rest. |
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Posted: 9/4/2021 9:51:57 PM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I voted maybe. I should be at level 87 now but haven’t shot much the last few years. I miss the open shoots at TV. It would be good to see you. |
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Posted: 9/4/2021 9:53:41 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I still need a 5.56 AR upper, I am planning on building one but I can only buy gun stuff slowly and budget it out. Past year has been focused on handgun stuff for LTC and all that. so unless I buy a lot of expensive Grendel ammo I definitely wont make round count. I think I have about 350rnds of 6.5G steel case plus like 700 rounds of brass cased grendel stuff. I have been slowly acquiring parts for a 5.56 upper. I have a BCG. I can cover you by loaning an upper. If Ben likes you then you must be a good guy. |
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Posted: 9/5/2021 1:10:33 AM EDT
[#43]
Definitely interested.
Figure ~$1300 for ammo, $450 for class, $200 for a hotel, plus pants, kneepads, belt, mag holders, appropriate pistol holster. |
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Posted: 9/5/2021 10:26:03 AM EDT
[#44]
Can you tent camp at Tiger Valley? I was thinking that was a possibility.
And/or maybe some people will split a room? just ideas. |
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Posted: 9/5/2021 11:00:29 AM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Can you tent camp at Tiger Valley? I was thinking that was a possibility. And/or maybe some people will split a room? just ideas. Last time I checked you can tent camp there. |
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Posted: 9/5/2021 11:49:46 AM EDT
[#46]
Yep, that much rifle ammo can be had for about $800. The cost of the course is the cheap part.
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Posted: 9/5/2021 11:59:20 AM EDT
[#47]
Looks like the nearest Holiday Inn (Waco Northwest, shows preferred on Tiger Valley site) is ~$140 to ~$200 a night depending on room/beds.
Camping could be doable as well, not sure how much of that equipment I have left though; the wifes last trip to Africa she left a lot of that stuff there. |
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Posted: 9/5/2021 12:05:03 PM EDT
[#48]
Last time we stayed in Mexia. Was a bit cheaper than the Waco hotels.
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Posted: 9/5/2021 9:44:55 PM EDT
[#49]
You guys are very kind
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Posted: 9/5/2021 10:35:22 PM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: 1200rds of ammo is worth more than the class... ouch these days. I'm a maybe, even have Hilton points so staying in Waco wouldn't cost more on top or have to make the drive 2x a day as scooting down 35W/35 ain't no picnic I honestly dont see a class needing 1200 rounds. I have taken alot of classes and never sent that many rounds downrange and some classes were 14+ hour days. Hell, I've got a 3day class coming up that just needs 500r/550p. |
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