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Posted: 2/13/2006 8:26:55 AM EDT
Range Test of LAGE Slowfire upper and AC556.


For y'alls MONDAY enjoyment!

Link Posted: 2/13/2006 9:36:15 AM EDT
[#1]
Love the soundtrack!
Link Posted: 2/13/2006 9:39:36 AM EDT
[#2]
Funny thing was that we used a small Casio pocket camera to do the video.
Link Posted: 2/13/2006 9:43:42 AM EDT
[#3]
Very nice!  I wish that I could have joined y'all; maybe next time.  At least I got my chair fixed, and my report for work written.
Link Posted: 2/13/2006 9:45:23 AM EDT
[#4]
damn, that was cool, was that this weekend?
Link Posted: 2/13/2006 9:47:33 AM EDT
[#5]
It was Sunday.
Link Posted: 2/13/2006 3:15:54 PM EDT
[#6]
"That's all..."


Damn good show!  
Link Posted: 2/13/2006 3:37:03 PM EDT
[#7]
thanks for calling me
Link Posted: 2/13/2006 3:54:04 PM EDT
[#8]
Link Posted: 2/13/2006 5:34:31 PM EDT
[#9]
You guys aren't smiling near enough!

Nice!!
Link Posted: 2/13/2006 6:07:52 PM EDT
[#10]
Nice vid, seems like that upper slows the MAC down enough so that it's actually useful instead of just a hose gun......

good soundtrack too.
Link Posted: 2/13/2006 6:08:43 PM EDT
[#11]
The cigar is a little over-played.
Link Posted: 2/13/2006 6:12:47 PM EDT
[#12]
Gotta Copperhead Road.
Link Posted: 2/13/2006 6:20:22 PM EDT
[#13]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Love the soundtrack!



i would have preferred a Star Wars theme, since it is Vader, afterall

TRG



True, but I like good Texas music, and that song has always reminded me of the NFA for some reason.  

"You hardly ever saw grandaddy down here
He only came to town about twice a year
He’d buy a hundred pounds of yeast and some copper line
Everybody knew that he made moonshine
Now the revenue man wanted grandaddy bad
He headed up the holler with everything he had
It’s before my time but I’ve been told..."





Link Posted: 2/13/2006 6:26:23 PM EDT
[#14]

Quoted:
The cigar is a little over-played.



Overplayed?  Damn- you must be a commie or sumthin":)

Welcome to my world.  Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms!
Link Posted: 2/13/2006 9:15:18 PM EDT
[#15]
Looks like a great time, nice video as well.

We need to set up an end of summer bash and get the Houston crew and the DFW crew together for a machine gun shoot.  Now that would be a good time..........
Link Posted: 2/13/2006 10:13:02 PM EDT
[#16]

Quoted:
thanks for calling me



+1
Link Posted: 2/14/2006 1:47:46 AM EDT
[#17]
looks like that mac is a jam-o-matic.............
Link Posted: 2/14/2006 4:23:56 AM EDT
[#18]
Very nice. Someday maybe I can afford a FA .22.

Link Posted: 2/14/2006 4:40:32 AM EDT
[#19]

Quoted:
looks like that mac is a jam-o-matic.............



Are you serious or just trolling?

One of the new Zytel mags had a feed issue.  This casued a few jams- the only jams of the day.
Link Posted: 2/14/2006 4:54:18 AM EDT
[#20]

Quoted:
Nice vid, seems like that upper slows the MAC down enough so that it's actually useful instead of just a hose gun......

good soundtrack too.



Why would you want to SLOW IT DOWN??? I find fast is very useful-- 50 rounds into a target in under 3 seconds-- great stopping power ... but who says you have to hold the trigger down-- just do bursts...
Link Posted: 2/14/2006 4:55:02 AM EDT
[#21]

Quoted:
looks like that mac is a jam-o-matic.............




Maybe its just REALLY REALLY REALLY dirty from shooting a lot and never cleaning it...
Link Posted: 2/14/2006 6:33:19 AM EDT
[#22]
About slowing it down:  My experience has been that at 1200 rounds per minute- The multiple hit probability, even in short 4-5 round bursts, is very low.  2-3 rounds of the 4-5 are in the target and they are strung across (left to rit) and up the siloquette.

The slowfire lets me put 4-5 rounds right i the center of the target.  Or even 1-2 rounds.

One of hte issues with any MG is managing your ammo usage.
Link Posted: 2/14/2006 6:40:51 AM EDT
[#23]
Link Posted: 2/14/2006 6:59:28 AM EDT
[#24]
TRG- we need to do a MG shoot halfway b/t H-town and D-town
Link Posted: 2/14/2006 7:01:38 AM EDT
[#25]
Link Posted: 2/14/2006 8:00:00 AM EDT
[#26]
Will they let me ride my 4 wheeler?

That place is to big to walk everywhere:)
Link Posted: 2/14/2006 8:53:58 AM EDT
[#27]
Link Posted: 2/14/2006 11:01:44 AM EDT
[#28]

Quoted:
About slowing it down:  My experience has been that at 1200 rounds per minute- The multiple hit probability, even in short 4-5 round bursts, is very low.  2-3 rounds of the 4-5 are in the target and they are strung across (left to rit) and up the siloquette.

The slowfire lets me put 4-5 rounds right i the center of the target.  Or even 1-2 rounds.

One of hte issues with any MG is managing your ammo usage.



20 rounds per second is pretty fast. How fast is the new upper? With a standard 9mm MAC, especially using a shoulder stock and/or suppressor, it seems to shoot fairly smooth and doesn't climb, especially compared to shooting it one-handed. You just hold it right on target.

Of course, I need more range time and practice, but I didn't think it was too hard to control as-is, with a little learning...

As for dumping 20rds/sec-- Just tap the trigger to control ammo dumps, oh and use 50rd mags or higher :).

Does your MAC like CCI Blazer?
Link Posted: 2/14/2006 12:23:19 PM EDT
[#29]
I don;t beleive its wise to use aluminum cased ammo in Open bolt guns.

I have seen the results of using it in an Uzi and don't ewant to try it in my MAC
Link Posted: 2/14/2006 12:32:33 PM EDT
[#30]

Quoted:
I don;t beleive its wise to use aluminum cased ammo in Open bolt guns.

I have seen the results of using it in an Uzi and don't ewant to try it in my MAC



Mine eats it just fine...

Unsuppressed CCI Blazer, 32/38rd mag (forget how many was loaded, and I don't feel like counting the shots...)
Link Posted: 2/14/2006 1:02:22 PM EDT
[#31]

Quoted:

Quoted:
looks like that mac is a jam-o-matic.............



Are you serious or just trolling?

One of the new Zytel mags had a feed issue.  This casued a few jams- the only jams of the day.




Whoa, hold on there........ In no way am I trolling. Hey I am on the MAC bandwagon right now, one because its a cheap MG
and it shoots cheap blammo. I really dont wanna make you mad its just MY opinion but, the side-cocking upper, HK sights,
car-15 butt-stock, HK k-grip handle, red-dot and the slow fire conversion you put on there ruined it for me.

But like I said, its my opinion. Congrats on the new gun though


Link Posted: 2/14/2006 2:34:09 PM EDT
[#32]
No worries Rogue,

I have had excellent luck with my M10s and M11s.  The side cocking uppers seem to help reliability along with functionality.  

The traditioanl sights SUCK ASS!  My opinionbased on use and exp[erience.

The traditional upper also sucks ass:  Its a knuckle buster that will not allow the mounting of red dots

A friend of mine has tons of trouble with his MACs.  11 & 10.

The rate of fire on the M10s and 11s also cuts down on usability.  They are fun bullet hoses- butI eventually got tothe point I liked being able to hit targets multiple times (my chikenwinging notwithstanding- thanks for pointing that out TRG:)  )

Link Posted: 2/14/2006 2:50:10 PM EDT
[#33]
No problem SC-Texas, I didnt understand the reason for "tactical" add-ons for the mac, I thought it was
a tactical enough, very small and compact. I guess if you shoot it enough it will be uncomfortable and I guess you ergo'd it out to your
needs.............right on!

I see M16's with all the bells and whistles on them and look at the very urban MAC-10 and always see it in its
natural form. When I first saw it, it reminded me of the new HK MP7 with a car stock, which I need to get use to
anyways...............Stargate SG1 on TV now use them and of course I watch it
Link Posted: 2/14/2006 3:07:59 PM EDT
[#34]
Rogue,

You obviously haven't seen my Uber Tactical Montrose Queen!




Link Posted: 2/14/2006 3:44:58 PM EDT
[#35]
I never get invited
Link Posted: 2/14/2006 4:01:55 PM EDT
[#36]

Quoted:
Rogue,

You obviously haven't seen my Uber Tactical Montrose Queen!

www.atomiclabrat.com/images/AR-15/Montrose%20Queen-%20NAI-3.JPG





It doen't have the laser mounted on the butt stock rail for butt stroke aiming. It's obviously incomplete

BTW SC you have not e-mailed me the music you wanted in your video from my footage,
Link Posted: 2/14/2006 6:15:55 PM EDT
[#37]
NICE CLEANING STAND!!!!



Quoted:
Rogue,

You obviously haven't seen my Uber Tactical Montrose Queen!

www.atomiclabrat.com/images/AR-15/Montrose%20Queen-%20NAI-3.JPG



Link Posted: 2/14/2006 7:07:40 PM EDT
[#38]

Quoted:
Why would you want to SLOW IT DOWN??? I find fast is very useful-- 50 rounds into a target in under 3 seconds-- great stopping power ... but who says you have to hold the trigger down-- just do bursts...



I don't know about you, but the only time I ever fired a stock MAC, the mag was empty before my brain could tell my finger to get off the trigger. In my case it was 30 rounds in about 2 seconds. Maybe I just had slow reflexes that day, I dunno.
Link Posted: 2/14/2006 7:45:23 PM EDT
[#39]
Was I the only one who thought it needed the A-Team music?
Link Posted: 2/14/2006 8:09:53 PM EDT
[#40]

Quoted:
Was I the only one who thought it needed the A-Team music?



Yes  
Link Posted: 2/15/2006 3:42:18 AM EDT
[#41]
damn thats sweet!
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