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Posted: 1/18/2006 6:51:04 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/19/2006 5:42:32 PM EDT
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Un-friggin' believable!
Boys, I smell a rat in this deal. I am lookin at my gun case with all my Winchesters in it. I've been supporting the factory. |
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Posted: 1/19/2006 6:25:51 PM EDT
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When was the last time anybody bought a Winchester Rifle? |
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Posted: 1/19/2006 9:12:32 PM EDT
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does this mean no more winchester value pack?
  
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Posted: 1/20/2006 7:13:57 AM EDT
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The firearms company is United States Repeating Arms Company, they make firearms that carry the Winchester name. Olin Corp owns the Winchester name and makes ammunition, they gave USRAC permission to use the Winchester name until 2007. USRAC is part of FN Herstal. mm |
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Posted: 1/20/2006 7:56:02 AM EDT
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i sell more winchesters than anything else, but apparently not anymore, my last two are on the way 
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Posted: 1/20/2006 9:16:18 AM EDT
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I ordered four rifles today...
One is MINE, MINE I TELL YOU! A 1895 break down rifle in .405 Winchester. A good prairie dog gun!!! |
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Posted: 1/20/2006 9:18:52 AM EDT
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Probably while you were typing this message.....Teddy Roosevelt swore by his 1895 |
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Posted: 1/20/2006 2:13:51 PM EDT
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Doubtful. More likely they bought a FN Herstal US Repeating Arms Rifle, with the Winchester name slapped on it somewhere. Not much different than Taurus PT92 pretending to be a Beretta 92. Anybody here think they have bought BF Goodrich Tires in the last 20 years? You didn't. Be even funnier if you hate Michelin Tires. |
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Posted: 1/20/2006 2:19:38 PM EDT
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I tend to agree with RenegadeX on this one. When was the last time WInchester put something on the market that catered to the new shooters. The only company that can thrive upon 50-100 year old design is probably Porsch. |
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Posted: 1/21/2006 5:51:10 AM EDT
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I find this an interesting comment. The Winchester is an American icon, a symbol of a time when things were simpler. The original Henry (sold to Winchester) changed history. I'd bet money that a good old Winchester or Marlin 30-30 has dropped a large percentage of the white-tailed deer in this country. Why the animosity toward them? If the shit hit the fan, a good ole lever gun and a revolver would be nice dependable weapons to have. I told three people about the Winchester halt of U.S. production. In five minutes I sold two rifles after I ordered them. In the next few hours I had requests from 10 customers from Winchesters. Are all these people stupid and archaic? I have a friend who has several original Winchesters, in 38-55, 44-40 and the like. I'd guess the value of those rifles will now be doubled very quickly. Should be interesting to hear tales from the HGCA today. |
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Posted: 1/21/2006 9:32:36 AM EDT
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I'm not arguing that Winchester is not a great part of the American/Gun history. It's just an indication of the market trend. Winchester's parent company is doing fine rolling out new products, and maybe the market simply isnt big enough for the type of guns Winchester is producing anymore.
You know I'm not a collector, I shoot everything I own. Having had Winchester Model 70's and 94's. I just think there are alot of other guns on the market that does the job better and have more options. FN has put out some cool new teasers lately, just not anything badged under Winchester. |
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Posted: 1/21/2006 11:12:41 AM EDT
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The craziness has already started. The local toy store had half a rack of old 94's on consignment for months and, today, they're all gone.
wganz ¶ |
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Posted: 1/21/2006 11:19:42 AM EDT
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The only ones I can seem to find now are the highdollar commemoratives and special editions. I'll try again Monday for a .357 mag mod 94, but they've all been scooped up. Timinator, just making a point that there are lots of folks who really love the old lever actions. |
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Posted: 1/21/2006 11:24:42 AM EDT
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US Repeating Arms is Winchester. They reissued the breakdown Model 1895 a couple of years ago in .405 Winchester. It's made in the U.S. The U.S. Factory is closing in March. That is what the fuss is about as they'll begin using overseas plants to make all the rifles. If you want a US made Winchester you might want to grab one. I buy Michelin LTX for my SUVs when I purchase tires....what's that got to do with the price of tea in China? or Winchester for that matter? |
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Posted: 1/21/2006 11:57:31 AM EDT
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No. US Repeating Arms is a company owned by FN, that has licensed the "Winchester" name from Olin Corporation. They make clones of rifles that Oliver Winchester designed (and his company Winchester Repeating Arms Company made), and slap the Winchester name on them. But they are still USRA rifles. It seems from the press releases that the reason the plant is closing is Olin is going to stop licensing the "Winchester" name, and FN/USRA will no longer be able to fool the masses into thinking they are buying "Winchesters". Obviously from this thread, they have been very successful with this deception. If you want to buy a Winchester Rifle make sure it was made before 1981, as that was the last time Winchester Repeating Arms Company made a gun. ETA, and if you need parts for your genuine Winchster, USRA is no help, since they do not make anything Winchester, just slap the name on stuff. |
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Posted: 1/21/2006 3:20:16 PM EDT
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However, they are currently manufacturing in the U.S. That is no longer going to be the case. Clones of the rifle? Isn't every AR15 a clone of an original AR15? They key is the USA make. Forget about it. All of you seem to hate Winchester. Fine. The collectors will laugh all the way to the bank |
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Posted: 1/21/2006 4:47:42 PM EDT
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Your partly right sir. While I do not hate Winchester rifles at all, I am also not a collector. Also FN has other plants that manufactures fire arms in the USA. |
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Posted: 1/21/2006 7:21:08 PM EDT
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Yep, so if you want a Genuine Colt, buy a Genuine Colt, not a Double Star.
Yep, the collectors know a real Winchester from brand clone. |
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Posted: 1/22/2006 5:26:23 AM EDT
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Sad.
I took quite a few deer with a 94 - my first deer, to be exact. Wonder if 231 will still be available... |
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Posted: 1/22/2006 9:50:40 AM EDT
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Ammunition and components, including poders, are made by Olin. mm |
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Posted: 1/22/2006 10:02:24 AM EDT
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Thanks. |
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