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Posted: 2/26/2007 12:20:19 AM EDT

What are the various UK available factory .223/5.56 ammo brands like for extraction in a straight pull AR ?

The brands the spring to mind for ready availability are American Eagle, Privi, and RG.

Do different lots of RG extract differently ?

Posted: 2/26/2007 12:35:13 AM EDT

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What are the various UK available factory .223/5.56 ammo brands like for extraction in a straight pull AR ?

The brands the spring to mind for ready availability are American Eagle, Privi, and RG.

Do different lots of RG extract differently ?

You won't generally experience any problems with commercial ammo.
RG on the other hand is somewhat hotter than commercial and can cause problems with the wrong chamber in them.

It's easily rectified though and not really anything to be worried about.
It would be advisable though to tell your AR builder what kind of ammo you intend to put through it.

The reamer I use doesn't suffer from these problems,and that can be described as a "Match" chamber that will eat almost everything.

If you intend to reload, stay away from brass made by RG, old Lapua and MEN , full length size and you'll be OK

Mark

Posted: 2/26/2007 5:15:59 AM EDT

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Doesn't the same go for all RG? I thought that was why NATO chambered guns will take anything but a commercially chambered .308 for instance, can't necessarily handle NATO spec 7.62mm?

Posted: 2/26/2007 8:52:02 AM EDT

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Pretty sure .308 and 7.62x51 are identical, it is the 2.23 and 5.56 which have slight differences.

Posted: 2/26/2007 2:22:55 PM EDT

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What are the various UK available factory .223/5.56 ammo brands like for extraction in a straight pull AR ?

The brands the spring to mind for ready availability are American Eagle, Privi, and RG.

Do different lots of RG extract differently ?

Never had a problem with American Eagle, RG is a little "tighter" but still extracts. Stay away from Barnaul (steel cased Russian).

Posted: 2/26/2007 2:35:31 PM EDT

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Stay away from Barnaul (steel cased Russian).

Why would you even be interested in putting that cr*p through your gun?

Posted: 2/27/2007 2:53:12 AM EDT

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Pretty sure .308 and 7.62x51 are identical, it is the 2.23 and 5.56 which have slight differences.

From Fulton Armoury FAQ's........

Most of the time it's a distinction without a difference. But if you intend to shoot .308 commercial in a military arm chambered for 7.62MM, first check the headspace with .308 commercial gauges first. You may get a surprise.

.223 Do NOT use such a chambering if you EVER plan on shooting any military NATO 5.56 ammo, which happens to be only the most common, least expensive and most widely used AR15 cartridge available in all the world. In other words, NEVER buy/use a SAAMI-spec chamber in a battle rifle, especially if the barrel and chamber are chromed, as you cannot fix it!

That's what they say, however..........

Posted: 2/27/2007 2:54:51 AM EDT

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Stay away from Barnaul (steel cased Russian).

Why would you even be interested in putting that cr*p through your gun?

+1 Last LOT I tried was so out of spec it wouldn't even chamber!

Save the extra £5 per 100 (at most) and get something that will group!!!!!

Posted: 2/27/2007 12:27:11 PM EDT

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I an using '04 rg at the moment purchased from York Guns and it is no problem on extraction in my Olympic arms AR. I have had problems with early RG on extraction ('88-93) but no problems with later dates '01 onwards. I got some '94 rg ammo boxed by rorg and when i opened the boxes it was portugese FNB headstamped ammo with the green tips. This is very hard on extraction i litterally had to hammer the bolt open. Not very good !! Still got 60rds left if anyone wants it you can have it FOC!!

Posted: 2/27/2007 2:56:10 PM EDT

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Stay away from Barnaul (steel cased Russian).

Why would you even be interested in putting that cr*p through your gun?

Like 20" heavy fluted barrels, getting married and a lot of other things in life, it seemed a good idea at the time, ie cheap practise ammo. I know better now

A couple of hundred rounds of cr*p ammo is no big deal compared to an illegal war

Posted: 2/27/2007 11:04:33 PM EDT

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I an using '04 rg at the moment purchased from York Guns and it is no problem on extraction in my Olympic arms AR. I have had problems with early RG on extraction ('88-93) but no problems with later dates '01 onwards. I got some '94 rg ammo boxed by rorg and when i opened the boxes it was portugese FNB headstamped ammo with the green tips. This is very hard on extraction i litterally had to hammer the bolt open. Not very good !! Still got 60rds left if anyone wants it you can have it FOC!!

I'll swap it for you