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Posted: 11/10/2018 6:34:58 PM EDT
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According to this article you can't have both. https://www.news-leader.com/story/news/local/ozarks/2018/11/08/guns-and-medical-weed-you-cant-have-both-despite-amendment-2/1928401002/ Same thing if your employer states you can’t have pot in your system. No matter what a state says, Marijuana is still illegal under Federal law.........NO EXCEPTIONS. |
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Posted: 11/10/2018 11:40:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I didn’t bother to follow the link, but no you can’t have pot and own firearms. Violation of Federal law. Same thing if your employer states you can’t have pot in your system. No matter what a state says, Marijuana is still illegal under Federal law.........NO EXCEPTIONS. Did not know that. |
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Posted: 11/11/2018 12:46:38 AM EDT
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So those with a medical marijuana card have to surrender their guns? Did not know that. Here is a “cut & paste” of the applicable section of a Form 4473.... 
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Posted: 11/11/2018 1:13:49 AM EDT
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Don't have to SURRENDER guns you just can't buy them from a dealer anymore... in the US... since Pot is STILL illegal in the United States...
Regardless of the state level the state doesn't approve your 4473 the Federal Gov't does, specifically the F B I... |
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Posted: 11/11/2018 8:19:08 AM EDT
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Don't have to SURRENDER guns you just can't buy them from a dealer anymore... in the US... since Pot is STILL illegal in the United States... Regardless of the state level the state doesn't approve your 4473 the Federal Gov't does, specifically the F B I... |
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Posted: 11/11/2018 6:00:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: No, BUT, if you are found to be using/in possession of pot you can (And probably will) be charged with a Felony if you own any firearms. |
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Posted: 11/12/2018 10:19:19 PM EDT
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No one in the gun world needs to be getting a med card.....just keep getting it from the same place you always have.
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Posted: 11/13/2018 12:39:59 AM EDT
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No, BUT, if you are found to be using/in possession of pot you can (And probably will) be charged with a Felony if you own any firearms. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Don't have to SURRENDER guns you just can't buy them from a dealer anymore... in the US... since Pot is STILL illegal in the United States... Regardless of the state level the state doesn't approve your 4473 the Federal Gov't does, specifically the F B I... |
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Posted: 11/13/2018 6:02:09 AM EDT
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Why can't a person have a medical marijuana card and own/buy firearms? I understand the part about using or possessing marijuana and own/buy firearms. I don't understand the part about having a medical marijuana card and own/buy firearms.
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Posted: 11/13/2018 11:25:05 AM EDT
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Why can't a person have a medical marijuana card and own/buy firearms? I understand the part about using or possessing marijuana and own/buy firearms. I don't understand the part about having a medical marijuana card and own/buy firearms. Also, keep in mind that if they decide to test you they are probably going for a hair test. Which will show if you have used during the growth period of the hair. |
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Posted: 11/13/2018 1:11:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Unless you want an all paid vacation at Club Fed. Here is a "cut & paste" of the applicable section of a Form 4473.... https://i.imgur.com/GPPcRGT.jpg In this case the local law doesn't really help much, needs to be federal too for any good.. |
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Posted: 11/13/2018 2:20:03 PM EDT
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Why can't a person have a medical marijuana card and own/buy firearms? I understand the part about using or possessing marijuana and own/buy firearms. I don't understand the part about having a medical marijuana card and own/buy firearms. I bet less than 5 more years of this nonsense and it'll be decriminalized. |
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Posted: 11/13/2018 4:10:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I argued that point in GD a few weeks ago and it seems that in other states it didn't matter if you consumed or not, a card was enough to get your pee pee slapped. I bet less than 5 more years of this nonsense and it'll be decriminalized. Again, I think the whole thing it is stupid. Its like they are dangling a carrot and ready with the bat when you reach for it... Govt!!! 
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Posted: 11/13/2018 11:31:37 PM EDT
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I think it would come under intent. Also, keep in mind that if they decide to test you they are probably going for a hair test. Which will show if you have used during the growth period of the hair. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Why can't a person have a medical marijuana card and own/buy firearms? I understand the part about using or possessing marijuana and own/buy firearms. I don't understand the part about having a medical marijuana card and own/buy firearms. Also, keep in mind that if they decide to test you they are probably going for a hair test. Which will show if you have used during the growth period of the hair. Think about this for a moment. Why is possessing a card a crime? Hell PursuitSS, I will have to snitch you out because I know you have business cards. If you possess playing cards are you charged as a dealer? ... lol |
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Posted: 11/14/2018 12:11:43 AM EDT
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Addicted to any depressant...... I guess the ATF should be camped out at the liquor store watching people buy vodka by the gallon. You know..... the "A" part of their agency. Having worked for a PD, I think a lot of PDs would need to hire a lot of new guys if alcoholism (addiction to a depressant) truly disqualified you from gun ownership.
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Posted: 11/14/2018 12:19:27 AM EDT
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Another feel good way for politicians to make themselves feel important. Don't read into it much, you'll be disappointed.
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Posted: 11/14/2018 7:41:07 AM EDT
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Not saying I agree with it, but I guess the thought is, why would you go though the hoops of getting the card, just to not partake, whatever your reason. Again, I think the whole thing it is stupid. Its like they are dangling a carrot and ready with the bat when you reach for it... Govt!!! Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: I argued that point in GD a few weeks ago and it seems that in other states it didn't matter if you consumed or not, a card was enough to get your pee pee slapped. I bet less than 5 more years of this nonsense and it'll be decriminalized. Again, I think the whole thing it is stupid. Its like they are dangling a carrot and ready with the bat when you reach for it... Govt!!! But yeah, I wouldn't go through the hassle of getting a card and not use it to its fullest potential 
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Posted: 11/14/2018 10:27:32 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: My argument is that I know tons of peeps with M endorsements on their drivers license that don't ride a motorcycle. ....seems like the same principle should apply. But yeah, I wouldn't go through the hassle of getting a card and not use it to its fullest potential Whats really right and makes good sense doesn't normally apply. Look at gun laws in general. Or the immigration issues. The govt selectively enforces some laws while blind eyeing others if its to their advantage. Then there is their levels of do as I say not as I do Hypocrisy. I mean how many of them do you thing partake in weed or even worse things... I'm betting its way more than they'd have us believe... You know I don't partake, but I still think weed should be legalized on a federal level. |
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Posted: 11/14/2018 10:41:05 AM EDT
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The 4473 says "Unlawful user of..." Having a card does not demonstrate that a person is unlawfully using; It means they applied for the card. Applying for a medical marijuana card might be a clue that someone uses marijuana, but it is far from conclusive proof.
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Posted: 11/14/2018 11:20:03 AM EDT
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The 4473 says "Unlawful user of..." Having a card does not demonstrate that a person is unlawfully using; It means they applied for the card. Applying for a medical marijuana card might be a clue that someone uses marijuana, but it is far from conclusive proof. It's probably totally justified if you look at the staggering statistics on people smoking weed and then committing violent felonies (j/k). |
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Posted: 11/14/2018 12:24:56 PM EDT
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It's probably totally justified if you look at the staggering statistics on people smoking weed and then committing violent felonies (j/k). ETA - I missed the just kidding in your post. My bad. I get the joke now. |
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Posted: 11/17/2018 12:26:19 PM EDT
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No one in the gun world needs to be getting a med card.....just keep getting it from the same place you always have. I think it should all be out of my system by now. |
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Posted: 11/17/2018 12:27:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I think it would come under intent. Also, keep in mind that if they decide to test you they are probably going for a hair test. Which will show if you have used during the growth period of the hair. 
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Posted: 11/17/2018 12:29:45 PM EDT
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I bet less than 5 more years of this nonsense and it'll be decriminalized. |
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