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[ARCHIVED THREAD] - What is with Indiana honoring Ohio handgun permits but Ohio not honoring Indiana's?

Posted: 11/19/2007 4:16:34 PM EDT

Anybody in and out of Ohio regularly what do you do?

Posted: 11/19/2007 4:24:58 PM EDT

[#1]

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Anybody in and out of Ohio regularly what do you do?

Indiana has a blanket reciprocity - if a permit is valid anywhere else, it's valid here. Ohio, having adopted its right-to-carry law much later, is more picky, offering reciprocity only with states that have issuing requirements that mirror its own... and that includes a state-mandated training course, which Indiana does not have.

Posted: 11/19/2007 4:39:03 PM EDT

[#2]

Thanks for the insight...I thought it might be the training aspect.....but still, adjacent states should work together on these laws. But as I look West the liberal idiots in Illinois don't have a clue. There are probably more felons carrying in Chicago than all the legal carry permits in Indiana.

Posted: 11/19/2007 5:59:32 PM EDT

[#3]

Oh boy.. my buddies in Cinci have told me that my IN permit is valid in OH. Thankfully I read this before somthing bad happened. Suppose I should do the research rather than going by word of mouth. D'oh!

Posted: 11/19/2007 6:11:10 PM EDT

[#4]

I am not sure about this, but I would "think" if you got caught in OH, where an IN resident, and had an IN carry permit, any decent lawyer could probably get the case thrown out.

Posted: 11/19/2007 6:39:33 PM EDT

[#5]

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I am not sure about this, but I would "think" if you got caught in OH, where an IN resident, and had an IN carry permit, any decent lawyer could probably get the case thrown out.

True, but plan on spending some dough to hire that decent lawyer. And who knows if the police would throw you in the pokey or not. Like someone else has said, OH adopted CCW much later (IIRC it was forced upon them by the courts). Due to this fact OH is much less gun friendly than our fine Hoosier state. Businesses tack up the "no guns here" posters quite frequently in the Buckeye state.

Posted: 11/19/2007 6:43:02 PM EDT

[#6]

This might be of interest.

Posted: 11/19/2007 8:01:33 PM EDT

[#7]

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This might be of interest.

Thats pretty sweet...Looks like I could get into some trouble if I ever decide to take the family on a drive to Vermont.

Posted: 11/19/2007 8:03:03 PM EDT

[#8]

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I am not sure about this, but I would "think" if you got caught in OH, where an IN resident, and had an IN carry permit, any decent lawyer could probably get the case thrown out.

True, but plan on spending some dough to hire that decent lawyer. And who knows if the police would throw you in the pokey or not. Like someone else has said, OH adopted CCW much later (IIRC it was forced upon them by the courts). Due to this fact OH is much less gun friendly than our fine Hoosier state. Businesses tack up the "no guns here" posters quite frequently in the Buckeye state.

I agree, but would rather spend some dough then get a gun charge dropped on me..That's bad newz..

Posted: 11/19/2007 8:20:32 PM EDT

[#9]

I travel back and forth to Ohio often since my wife's parents live there. I checked to see if Ohio accepted IN permits way before my first trip and found they didn't, so I leave mine at home.

Posted: 11/20/2007 5:19:33 AM EDT

[#10]

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I am not sure about this, but I would "think" if you got caught in OH, where an IN resident, and had an IN carry permit, any decent lawyer could probably get the case thrown out.

I am a retired attorney, and although I did not practice in Ohio, and I considered myself at least a "decent attorney", I would disagree with that assessment. There is no "full faith and credit" regarding permit laws. If in fact any decent attorney could get the case thrown out, then the activists would already be doing this and the Ohio law regarding reciprocity/honoring would be meaningless.

But I would like to be shown wrong. Test case anyone??

Posted: 11/20/2007 7:01:36 AM EDT

[#11]

While one side of me believes that it is the RIGHT of the individual to have a gun with him/her whereever he or she chooses to go....

....Another side of me wishes that the state of IN would require a little more into getting our permits so that some other states would give us a little more reciprocity.

Posted: 11/20/2007 7:20:00 AM EDT

[#12]

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....Another side of me wishes that the state of IN would require a little more into getting our permits so that some other states would give us a little more reciprocity.

OR... the other states could do the reasonable thing and honor any valid permit issued anywhere else. Like Indiana does.

And KY, and TN, and...

Bottom line is that neither the US nor Indiana State Constitutions state that the people have the right to bear arms "after taking class" or "after shooting a qualification course." I don't mind a shall-issue permit system to screen out criminals and mental cases, but government involvement should stop there, IMO. Most states' mandatory CCW courses are a joke, anyway.

Posted: 11/20/2007 7:56:20 AM EDT

[#13]

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I am not sure about this, but I would "think" if you got caught in OH, where an IN resident, and had an IN carry permit, any decent lawyer could probably get the case thrown out.

I am a retired attorney, and although I did not practice in Ohio, and I considered myself at least a "decent attorney", I would disagree with that assessment. There is no "full faith and credit" regarding permit laws. If in fact any decent attorney could get the case thrown out, then the activists would already be doing this and the Ohio law regarding reciprocity/honoring would be meaningless.

But I would like to be shown wrong. Test case anyone??

Nope, I am not brave enough to test it, but thanks for the info. I normally don't carry with me when traveling anyway...I did one time to the great state of I won't mention when delivering a motorcycle I sold on e-bay years ago. Wasn't real comfortable going to the area I went alone, and wasn't comfortable carrying 5K in cash with me in the truck either. I will take your advice and leave the gun at home.

Posted: 11/20/2007 10:20:45 AM EDT

[#14]

All you need to do is get a non resident license from a state that OH honors, like Utah. It is a WHOLE lot cheaper that a lawyer.

(UT class +/- $150, UT licence $65.25 + $8 for photo, renewal in 5 years $10 + $8 photo, again, = $241.25 to carry in OH, and 32 other states w/ an IN & UT license).

By the way, there is another UT class @ Marion Co. Fish & Game (indyrange.com) on Friday, 11/23/07, from 6-10 PM.

Posted: 11/20/2007 12:29:31 PM EDT

[#15]

I wonder just how realistic it would be to get a petition together from all us here on AR15.com and other gun friendly sites, having all gun shops host nationwide petition gathering points and see how many signatures would support a one license for all states permit. (i.e. if your home state offers one and you are carrying legal there, then you can carry anywhere in the U.S.)
Hey.. If you are going to dream: DREAM BIG!!!!

Posted: 11/20/2007 2:25:57 PM EDT

[#16]

I have a Tennesee permit that i got before i moved back to Indiana. I now have my Indiana permit, but does anyone know if I could consider my Tennesse license valid even though i dont live there anymore?

Also, i do have to say that it was nice taking the training course in Tennessee just to help you get familiar with the laws. You wouldnt believe what some of the boneheads thought they could do (brandishing, etc) in that class, and i wonder how many people in Indiana get their permit and never really find out how to responsibly carry it.

Posted: 11/20/2007 5:05:27 PM EDT

[#17]

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....Another side of me wishes that the state of IN would require a little more into getting our permits so that some other states would give us a little more reciprocity.

OR... the other states could do the reasonable thing and honor any valid permit issued anywhere else. Like Indiana does.

And KY, and TN, and...

Bottom line is that neither the US nor Indiana State Constitutions state that the people have the right to bear arms "after taking class" or "after shooting a qualification course." I don't mind a shall-issue permit system to screen out criminals and mental cases, but government involvement should stop there, IMO. Most states' mandatory CCW courses are a joke, anyway.

Well said, Shooter. I couldn't imagine having to qualify to exercise a right.

Our state already treats us like child-molesters. We have to get finger-printed, background-checked, registered, must notify the state when we change residency, cannot be within 1000 (feet or yards?) of a school etc. After all this, we get happy about a lifetime permit as if they're doing us a favor in allowing us to exercise a well-protected right.

That's like being happy that the bully in school is punching you on the shoulder instead of in the face. The bully's still there and could still punch you in the eye.

Posted: 11/20/2007 8:02:33 PM EDT

[#18]

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Oh boy..my buddies in Cinci have told me that my IN permit is valid in OH. Thankfully I read this before somthing bad happened. Suppose I should do the research rather than going by word of mouth. D'oh!

Might want to rethink that. I'd hate to hear about you being charged with a crime.

Posted: 11/21/2007 4:12:29 AM EDT

[#19]

Yeah, I realize that now. I won't be doing it anymore. Luckily for me, OH police have never pulled me over for anything, or even said a word to me.

googly eyes back at ya!

Posted: 11/21/2007 5:37:03 AM EDT

[#20]

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Our state already treats us like child-molesters.

In a perfect world, every state would have Vermont-style concealed carry laws. But in the imperfect world in which we actually live, Indiana's permit provisions are pretty damn good.

Posted: 11/21/2007 5:49:12 AM EDT

[#21]

I am completely satisfied with having a LIFETIME carry permit that works in my home state and many other states, even if it's not valid in Ohio. Good deal IMO. I love the state of Indiana.

Posted: 11/21/2007 6:07:25 AM EDT

[#22]

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. . . cannot be within 1000 (feet or yards?) of a school etc.

The above is from the Federal law, but you are exempt from it with a state-issued license or permit.

However, you did make a superb point. I agree with you.

Posted: 11/26/2007 8:07:43 PM EDT

[#23]

Just do what I do and never go to Ohio, Illinois or other socialist ran states. As a side note I showed my truck gun (car 15) and ccw to a local cop yesterday at work. We are next to the school. I love Indiana, vote and will try my best to keep it the wonderful state it is.

Bob

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