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Posted: 11/21/2007 11:12:43 AM EDT
[#1]
Whats it doing exactly?
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Posted: 11/21/2007 12:02:03 PM EDT
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It's a Tec-9 / Kimel AP-9! Ghetto Fabulous!
 Honestly, feeding & extracting problems are EXTREMELY COMMON in the Tec / AP 9mm series guns!!! I've *NEVER* seen one that has been able to go 100% through a full magazine without SOME kind of jams... Could be the extractor, could be the ejector, it could be a LOT of things... Need more info. Does the fired casing stay in the chamber? Does it extract, but not eject, and get crimped/stovepiped in the action? Etc... Is the action cycling completely (bolt going all the way back)??? In reality, I think you'd maybe be hard pressed to find *ANY* good gunsmiths that would be willing to work on your AP-9, and you also have to ask yourself - for a ~$250 gun, is it worth it? |
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Posted: 11/21/2007 12:40:52 PM EDT
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i picked it up in a trade....i have had it to the range several times with all different ammo..i fired it sunday.I put one round in the tube and fire and the round would not eject sometimes it would partially eject but get crushed.....sounds like this one is gonna be a cool paperweight....
ramblin |
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Posted: 11/21/2007 1:14:38 PM EDT
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One of your better options is Sir Randall.......call before heading over.........
Territorial Gunsmithing 733 6th Ave South Hopkins, MN 952-931-9451 Randy Hengl [email protected] |
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Posted: 11/21/2007 2:46:41 PM EDT
[#5]
This pic would be better with a life jacket on!
 
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Posted: 11/21/2007 9:53:53 PM EDT
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Your best bet would be to trade it for a firearm that works.
There's a good chance Sir Randall may pistol whip you with it if you bring it into his shop. FWIW, those things need a lot of lube and, IMO, are chock full of problems even when they are running right. I had one at one time and it was a challenge to get through one magazine without a failure. you may try the excessive lube route and if that doesn't work, you may consider heeding my initial advice. |
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Posted: 11/21/2007 11:26:15 PM EDT
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M, that is exactly why I said call first to avoid any embarassment....... |
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Posted: 11/22/2007 4:35:38 AM EDT
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I've been thinking. what about SBRing it? a buttstock just may help it cycle better. it has been my expereience that a good portion of FTE are from "limp wristing". that is alot of pistol to hang off the end of your wirst, and fatigue sets in fast.
just a thought  advntrjnky |
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Posted: 11/22/2007 5:11:46 AM EDT
[#9]
thanks guys for the info......
ramblin |
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Posted: 11/23/2007 5:32:21 AM EDT
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 This one (belongs to a friend) was surprisingly 'accurate' (2.5" groups at 10yds - better than I thought it'd be), but the darn thing just WOULD NOT cycle thru a full mag without at least 2 to 3 malfunctions!  Honestly, they DO require a LOT of lube oil to run okay, but might not be worth your hassle. MCNielsen has good advice though - sell / trade it for another gun... There are SEVERAL nice 'budget' guns in the $250 to $300 range that are good, accurate, and function reliably... I recommend something more conventional! (1911, Glock, etc. or CZ-82, .38spcl, Makarov, etc for a budget gun) However, if you *STILL* REALLY want the 'ghetto fabulous' style 9mm gun, but want one that's reasonably reliable, I'd get a RPB-Arms modified MPA-30 9mm (Mac 10 Type) with a modified grip that uses Sten Mags...  But they're like $375, and still sometimes have problems - but they're more easily modified for improved function. |
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Posted: 11/23/2007 10:15:33 AM EDT
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Must... resist.....
I just can't help but want a ghetto fabulous 9mm....
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Posted: 11/26/2007 7:09:37 AM EDT
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C'mon guys! Let the ganstas have those guns. That way when they pull them on you, you will have plenty of time to get your drawstroke perfect while they f*ck with the bolt trying to clear a doublefeed...
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Posted: 12/3/2007 9:26:57 PM EDT
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Not the most sugar coated response, but. the most honest...  I have a PM-11 I got a while ago and it took 2x the original cost (from the now defunct FAC) to get it to feed 100%. It also required a fair amount of polishing of the MIM parts... Folks in the gun industry call that an "educational experience". It could be a whole host of problems you are trying to correct... the question is, how much time and money are you willing to part with to fix the problems? |
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Posted: 12/4/2007 3:35:49 AM EDT
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This is the first time I've ever heard of a FTF with a Tec-9. They were always 100% on Miami Vice - and never ever ran out of ammo.
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Posted: 12/4/2007 5:48:34 AM EDT
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You can't polish a turd. And, as Norseman1 is implying, if you can get that turd polished, you will end up with one expensive polished turd.
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Posted: 12/4/2007 2:20:22 PM EDT
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im gonna turn it into a single shot paperweight......
thanks for the replys guys..... ramblin
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