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Posted: 11/3/2014 5:38:41 PM EDT
CT 3 Gun Match Where: Andover Sportsman’s Club, Route6 Andover, CT When: Sunday November 23, 2014 9:00 AM (Sign-In 8:30 AM ) What: 3 gun shooting match consisting of centerfire rifle, shotgun, defensive handgun of at least 9mm Para or .38 Special. There will be 2 Classes, one for iron sights/pump action shotgun, the other is open to optics/semi-auto shotguns. Some Particulars:
Safety will be stressed over speed! Improper handling of firearms, breaking the 180° while shooting, dropping a firearm and all other unsafe practices will result in immediate disqualification. For more information please visit andoversportsmansclub.com. |
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How are people with no standard caps able to compete without a disadvantage? I've wanted to get into IDPA or 3 gun but have been wondering about the disparity.
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How are people with no standard caps able to compete without a disadvantage? I've wanted to get into IDPA or 3 gun but have been wondering about the disparity. View Quote Vote Malloy out But in all seriousness.....this is a major problem with the new laws. Antis think that standard capacity mags are only used for violent crimes, and only criminals need them. To answer your question though, maybe someone would lend you a few for the match. OR bring 6 or more 10 round mags....you will end up being the best at mag changes In the 2 matches Ive done so far, I downloaded my mags just so I could practice changing mags. Either way, sounds like a good time up there guys! I just did my first 3 gun last weekend, fun as hell! It'll be more fun with more experience |
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Quoted: Vote Malloy out But in all seriousness.....this is a major problem with the new laws. Antis think that standard capacity mags are only used for violent crimes, and only criminals need them. To answer your question though, maybe someone would lend you a few for the match. OR bring 6 or more 10 round mags....you will end up being the best at mag changes View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: How are people with no standard caps able to compete without a disadvantage? I've wanted to get into IDPA or 3 gun but have been wondering about the disparity. Vote Malloy out But in all seriousness.....this is a major problem with the new laws. Antis think that standard capacity mags are only used for violent crimes, and only criminals need them. To answer your question though, maybe someone would lend you a few for the match. OR bring 6 or more 10 round mags....you will end up being the best at mag changes +1 this. |
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http://andoversportsmansclub.com/news-events/three-gun-shoot
Equipment: Required Equipment: Hearing protection, eye protection, center-fire rifle, shotgun, defensive handgun, handgun holster with holster retention and two chamber flags. The handgun minimum caliber must be at least 9mm parabellum or .38 special. There is a strict, 30 round capacity limit for rifle magazines. No magazines of greater capacity will be allowed. Handgun magazines must be standard for the model of handgun used, no extended capacity magazines will be allowed. Shotguns can only be loaded with five rounds maximum until the first shot. Ammunition: Approximately 70 rounds of rifle ammunition, 4, 12 gauge slugs, approximately 16 rounds of 12 gauge birdshot and approximately 70 rounds of ammunition for your handgun. It is highly recommended to bring more than you will need. Recommended Equipment: Appropriate clothing for the season, food and drink. Course of Fire: This match will consist of shooting a rifle stage, shotgun stage and a handgun stage. This is a tactical match that will utilize and help you to develop skills with a modern sporting rifle, a repeating, 12 gauge shotgun and a defensive caliber handgun. There will be 2 classes: One class will consist of iron sighted weapons and a pump, 12 gauge shotgun. The other class will allow an optic on the rifle and/ or a semi-automatic 12 gauge shotgun. Scoring will be done on a hybrid IDPA/ NRA system wherein accuracy will be emphasized but above all, Safety will be stressed. Breaking the 180, dropping a firearm, or other unsafe actions will result in disqualification. There will be procedural penalties assessed for minor infractions. This match will be relatively beginner-friendly, but the experienced shooters will still face some challenges. Positional shooting will be part of the stages. Targets will be a mix of paper, steel and clay pigeons. Competitors not actively shooting or on deck, will be asked to help set up targets, replace clay pigeons and paste or staple targets to make the match run faster View Quote OK, so they have 2 divisions based on the action of your shotgun. Nov 23? 8:30 am. I use irons on everything and can keep up with optic guys at close range (they only shoot out to 100 yards), but I'm not sure how fast I can quad load my Winchester if my hands get too cold waiting for slowpokes. It sounds like fun. |
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3 Gun at ASC?
I never thought I'd see the day..... What's next? SMG match? Good work whoever was involved in organizing! |
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Same way they have to defend themselves at a disadvantage - the best they can. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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How are people with no standard caps able to compete without a disadvantage? I've wanted to get into IDPA or 3 gun but have been wondering about the disparity. Same way they have to defend themselves at a disadvantage - the best they can. Most competitions are set up so that 8 is the maximum number of rounds that can to be fired from any position without needing to move. If you reload on the move, and don't run your gun dry, you won't waste any time reloading. I have seen folks run 30 round pistol mags dry and look surprised despite knowing the required round count well in advance. |
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Forgive me because I'm new at this... but 1 run through the course will require that much ammo?
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I REALLY appreciate the offer Matt but I'm nowhere near ready. I'm saving up for an optic for my AR so I can get some range time behind it and then I can start to finish my chest rig. Pistol wise I'd probably run my SR9c unless I buy some full size pistol before fair weather next year, but that's unlikely.
Quoted: What do you shoot? You can borrow mine. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: How are people with no standard caps able to compete without a disadvantage? I've wanted to get into IDPA or 3 gun but have been wondering about the disparity. What do you shoot? You can borrow mine. |
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Quoted: If you reload on the move, and don't run your gun dry, you won't waste any time reloading. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: How are people with no standard caps able to compete without a disadvantage? I've wanted to get into IDPA or 3 gun but have been wondering about the disparity. Same way they have to defend themselves at a disadvantage - the best they can. If you reload on the move, and don't run your gun dry, you won't waste any time reloading. +1, this.
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Just a reminder this is next Sunday. Sign in is at 8:30 AM, shooting begins at 9:00 AM.
You will need mag capacity to carry 70 rifle rounds and 20 shotgun shells for one stage and around 70 pistol rounds for the second stage. |
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Are spectators allowed ? Would like to see what I might be getting into
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Quoted: Are spectators allowed ? Would like to see what I might be getting into View Quote Absolutely. The match is described as "relatively beginner-friendly, but the experienced shooters will still face some challenges". You should run the course, it will be fun. I know of one guy running it with a Springfield M1a and a Delta Elite, so it's not like everyone will be shooting race guns and such. |
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Thanks for the insight and posting the video Bender. Will you be coming? Let's post any question in here, no questions are dumb and I'm sure it will be beneficial to others.
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Thanks for the insight and posting the video Bender. Will you be coming? Let's post any question in here, no questions are dumb and I'm sure it will be beneficial to others. View Quote Theres actually a rifle match on the 22nd at metacon I'll be at. Then on the 23rd I have the CRO meeting at metacon, so I wont be able to attend. Im sure itll be fun as hell though. Me personally I'd recommend it to anyone that likes shooting and is physically able to. Honestly, you wont care about shooting behind a line anymore. That video was made at metacon FYI. But I think it shows basically the layout of a 3 gun match. Should be something similar at andover. |
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Thank You John and Bender for the info and video !!! Hopefully I can make it out to see first hand how everything works before making the jump
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I'd love to check this out. I missed the one they did at Rockville fish and game.looks fun, nice video bending .
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I'll be there, bringing my brother as well. Any problems with using an AR pistol as a "rifle" for the match?
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Quoted: I'll be there, bringing my brother as well. Any problems with using an AR pistol as a "rifle" for the match? View Quote As long as it shoots rifle rounds, no issues. However keep in mind there will be rifle targets out to 100 yards and accuracy is stressed over speed. FWIW, I have a pistol AR as well, but will be using my 14.5". |
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The course setup is pretty cool, it should make for a good run!
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122 Rt. 6, Andover CT. It will be on your right headed Eastbound. Kinda hard to see, look for signs on side of road and metal gate.
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I almost FO'd. But I'm missing a couple of the required items and my longer range rifle shooting needs some work.
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Quoted: What's the recommended set up for 3 gun? View Quote This was my first 3 gun so take with a grain of salt, but I shot a 14.5" AR, Remington 870 and USP .40, and I shot well. Any semi auto center fire rifle, 12 gauge and 9mm or greater pistol would do fine. Make sure they're guns you have full size mags for though. I don't see a huge advantage of using a semi auto shotgun unless (Saiga excluded, cause mags are huge) you short stroke the pump gun which I did. ETA: Here's what I ran today (everybody likes pics) |
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This was my first 3 gun so take with a grain of salt, but I shot a 14.5" AR, Remington 870 and USP .40, and I shot well. Any semi auto center fire rifle, 12 gauge and 9mm or greater pistol would do fine. Make sure they're guns you have full size mags for though. I don't see a huge advantage of using a semi auto shotgun unless (Saiga excluded, cause mags are huge) you short stroke the pump gun which I did. ETA: Here's what I ran today (everybody likes pics) http://i1310.photobucket.com/albums/s658/Johnsmyname/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20141123_182010_zpsfb92a2a9.jpg Nice set up, I remember chatting with you for a minute. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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What's the recommended set up for 3 gun? This was my first 3 gun so take with a grain of salt, but I shot a 14.5" AR, Remington 870 and USP .40, and I shot well. Any semi auto center fire rifle, 12 gauge and 9mm or greater pistol would do fine. Make sure they're guns you have full size mags for though. I don't see a huge advantage of using a semi auto shotgun unless (Saiga excluded, cause mags are huge) you short stroke the pump gun which I did. ETA: Here's what I ran today (everybody likes pics) http://i1310.photobucket.com/albums/s658/Johnsmyname/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20141123_182010_zpsfb92a2a9.jpg Nice set up, I remember chatting with you for a minute. |
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This was my first 3 gun so take with a grain of salt, but I shot a 14.5" AR, Remington 870 and USP .40, and I shot well. Any semi auto center fire rifle, 12 gauge and 9mm or greater pistol would do fine. Make sure they're guns you have full size mags for though. I don't see a huge advantage of using a semi auto shotgun unless (Saiga excluded, cause mags are huge) you short stroke the pump gun which I did. ETA: Here's what I ran today (everybody likes pics) http://i1310.photobucket.com/albums/s658/Johnsmyname/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20141123_182010_zpsfb92a2a9.jpg what optic do you have on the ar ? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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What's the recommended set up for 3 gun? This was my first 3 gun so take with a grain of salt, but I shot a 14.5" AR, Remington 870 and USP .40, and I shot well. Any semi auto center fire rifle, 12 gauge and 9mm or greater pistol would do fine. Make sure they're guns you have full size mags for though. I don't see a huge advantage of using a semi auto shotgun unless (Saiga excluded, cause mags are huge) you short stroke the pump gun which I did. ETA: Here's what I ran today (everybody likes pics) http://i1310.photobucket.com/albums/s658/Johnsmyname/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20141123_182010_zpsfb92a2a9.jpg what optic do you have on the ar ? |
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Gimlet - Which guy were you?
Typhoid - It's an Aimpoint PRO. I really like it, best optic for the money IMO. ETA: For those who shot the event, they're going to post your scores on the ASC website and email you if you put your info on the score sheet. Also pics are going up as they come in. |
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Quoted: That's the one,not optimal for three gun but I felt like being different. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I was the guy with the ak. I remember, Romanian with all black furniture right? That's the one,not optimal for three gun but I felt like being different. Hell yeah, I thought it was badass. Only a few non AR platforms that I saw. There was a Sig 556 and a guy with a 30.06 deer gun. |
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JonhsMyName thanks I have no clue what to get , but the aimpoint pro was on my list.
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No problem, I'm in no way an expert on the subject, but happy to share what works for me.
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For anyone interest in pictures or the results I have posted information on the Andover Sportsman's Club website http://andoversportsmansclub.com/news-events/three-gun-shoot
It was a great event with an awesome turnout... I look forward to the next! |
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